Hyflux 6% Perpetual Securities

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My hypothesis was that they wanted to secure contract and venture into the electricity market. Bid at below and use profit from electricity to cross subsidise, in fact if it worked out, shareholders will be calling her a visionary.
 

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As always, devil is in the details.

On one side they say valuation is negative... On the other end people inclined to side the government will say that PUB is not losing out? Sounds damn convenient.

Until we see the financial model, I will just take PUB statement as it is, that they will spend "millions" to make good the plant. Lets hope that their cost of water production (somehow it's assumed Pub is a capable operator? ) cheaper than what hyflux bidded to sell to PUB, else that is additional opex as well.

Poor Pub engineers, sigh.
What do you think will happen if they don't take over? They won't be able to get the contractual liabilities paid anyway even if the taps run dry. And the political liability for *that* will be huge.
 

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The stock price of Hyflux already show it is not doing well .
Maybe those investors never pay attention to the health of Hyflux after purchasing it .

Most likely they don't know what they are investing into

I think by looking at the age group of those who went to HLP to protest, you have your answer.
 
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https://www.straitstimes.com/business/consortiums-deadline-for-hyflux-passes-quietly

Consortium's deadline for Hyflux passes quietly

A crucial April 1 deadline that Hyflux's white knight set for its $530 million rescue offer came and went without a whimper, leaving investors and creditors more uncertain than ever.

The Salim-Medco consortium SM Investments (SMI) had threatened to assert its right to yank the restructuring offer by that date if certain conditions were not met.

But the date passed with neither SMI nor Hyflux having anything to say when asked by The Straits Times yesterday.

This has left investors and observers still guessing just days before Friday's make-or-break-vote that will decide Hyflux's fate.

Indonesian conglomerate Salim Group and energy giant Medco Group had agreed on Oct 18 to throw Hyflux a $530 million lifeline in exchange for a 60 per cent stake in the restructured company once all its debts are settled.

But SMI got cold feet after water agency PUB served a default notice on March 5 to Hyflux subsidiary Tuaspring Pte Ltd (TPL).

This concerned the unit's failure to keep the plant reliably operational and for not producing financial proof that it can be kept running for the next six months.

Hyflux disclosed on March 18 that SMI had asserted its right to back out of the deal by April 1 if Tuaspring's defaults were not fixed.

If SMI walks out before Friday's vote on the restructuring plan, then the rescue plan is as good as dead, say analysts.

A source close to the deal said: "As long as SMI has not formally withdrawn, then we assume they are still in the game. And investors should vote on April 5."

But the rescue plan has been looking shaky since last Thursday, when SMI said it may have grounds to walk away because Hyflux withheld key information on the group's financial state, resulting in SMI underestimating how much it would take to rescue the firm.

This "new material information" that came to light significantly increases Hyflux's working capital requirements, which in turn could "affect the amount available for settlement to creditors", SMI said.

It added it has not agreed to the current allocation.

But Hyflux maintains that SMI had agreed to the allocation of the $271 million to settle debts with creditors before publication of the restructuring scheme on Feb 16.

SMI also claimed that PUB's default notice constitutes a "prescribed occurrence" that allows it to terminate the deal.

But Hyflux argued that such an event has not yet taken place, and the earliest that PUB could terminate the water contract if Tuaspring's defaults are not remedied is now May 1. This is because the PUB has agreed to give TPL until April 30 to fix the defaults.

The source close to the deal said: "Hyflux has said that SMI can't give any deadline because there is no default of its restructuring agreement, although SMI has tried to claim that there are defaults.

"SMI can escape if people vote against the scheme on April 5."

Despite the uncertainty, the Securities Investors Association, Singapore, is trying to swing more investors to the "yes" vote because they will likely get nothing in a liquidation scenario.

A preference share investor who wanted to be known as Mr Sim said he is voting "yes" because he stands to recover "something" from his initial investment of a few hundred thousand dollars.

"I am voting based on... what Hyflux presented to us... not on what SMI is not happy about," he said.

The 70-year-old retiree also cited the Government's "clear signal that it is not coming to help us".

"We have to stand up for ourselves. It is better to get something than nothing," he said.
 

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https://www.straitstimes.com/business/consortiums-deadline-for-hyflux-passes-quietly

Consortium's deadline for Hyflux passes quietly

A crucial April 1 deadline that Hyflux's white knight set for its $530 million rescue offer came and went without a whimper, leaving investors and creditors more uncertain than ever.

The Salim-Medco consortium SM Investments (SMI) had threatened to assert its right to yank the restructuring offer by that date if certain conditions were not met.

But the date passed with neither SMI nor Hyflux having anything to say when asked by The Straits Times yesterday.

This has left investors and observers still guessing just days before Friday's make-or-break-vote that will decide Hyflux's fate.

Indonesian conglomerate Salim Group and energy giant Medco Group had agreed on Oct 18 to throw Hyflux a $530 million lifeline in exchange for a 60 per cent stake in the restructured company once all its debts are settled.

But SMI got cold feet after water agency PUB served a default notice on March 5 to Hyflux subsidiary Tuaspring Pte Ltd (TPL).

This concerned the unit's failure to keep the plant reliably operational and for not producing financial proof that it can be kept running for the next six months.

Hyflux disclosed on March 18 that SMI had asserted its right to back out of the deal by April 1 if Tuaspring's defaults were not fixed.

If SMI walks out before Friday's vote on the restructuring plan, then the rescue plan is as good as dead, say analysts.

A source close to the deal said: "As long as SMI has not formally withdrawn, then we assume they are still in the game. And investors should vote on April 5."

But the rescue plan has been looking shaky since last Thursday, when SMI said it may have grounds to walk away because Hyflux withheld key information on the group's financial state, resulting in SMI underestimating how much it would take to rescue the firm.

This "new material information" that came to light significantly increases Hyflux's working capital requirements, which in turn could "affect the amount available for settlement to creditors", SMI said.

It added it has not agreed to the current allocation.

But Hyflux maintains that SMI had agreed to the allocation of the $271 million to settle debts with creditors before publication of the restructuring scheme on Feb 16.

SMI also claimed that PUB's default notice constitutes a "prescribed occurrence" that allows it to terminate the deal.

But Hyflux argued that such an event has not yet taken place, and the earliest that PUB could terminate the water contract if Tuaspring's defaults are not remedied is now May 1. This is because the PUB has agreed to give TPL until April 30 to fix the defaults.

The source close to the deal said: "Hyflux has said that SMI can't give any deadline because there is no default of its restructuring agreement, although SMI has tried to claim that there are defaults.

"SMI can escape if people vote against the scheme on April 5."

Despite the uncertainty, the Securities Investors Association, Singapore, is trying to swing more investors to the "yes" vote because they will likely get nothing in a liquidation scenario.

A preference share investor who wanted to be known as Mr Sim said he is voting "yes" because he stands to recover "something" from his initial investment of a few hundred thousand dollars.

"I am voting based on... what Hyflux presented to us... not on what SMI is not happy about," he said.

The 70-year-old retiree also cited the Government's "clear signal that it is not coming to help us".

"We have to stand up for ourselves. It is better to get something than nothing," he said.

Think many in those telegram chats will vote "no" instead
 

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Yes that's right. So these 2 are totally incomparable.

If Singtel or SIA fails, Temasek will CONFIRM do a SMRT also.

Yes, because Singtel and SIA did not sign a contract for Govt to take over them at Zero Dollars if they fail in their service unlike Hyflux.
 

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Think many in those telegram chats will vote "no" instead

Good. Chop chop for PUB to recover the plant.

PUB has no obligation to explain in length to these investors. No business dealing between both parties.

Resistance is fruitless.
 

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Good. Chop chop for PUB to recover the plant.

PUB has no obligation to explain in length to these investors. No business dealing between both parties.

Resistance is fruitless.

When PUB have no Hyflux to chop, eventually will chop us.
 

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Hyflux's financial woes 'a result of its own commercial decisions', says EMA

Hyflux's financial woes 'a result of its own commercial decisions', says EMA

https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...a-result-of-its-own-commercial-decisions-says

SINGAPORE - The Energy Market Authority (EMA) of Singapore said on Tuesday (April 2) that Hyflux's present financial situation was the "result of its own commercial decisions".

The gas industry regulator was responding to a reader's letter, "Time for a close look into why Hyflux tanked. This was no typical business failure", published in The Business Times on March 26. In the letter, reader Leong Mun Wai suggested that vesting contracts and policy changes led to lower electricity prices and Hyflux's current situation.

In its letter to BT, EMA said: "Hyflux's present financial situation is a result of its own commercial decisions, with full knowledge of the gas supply situation and electricity generation market."

On the vesting contracts, EMA said that in 2009, it offered the liquefied natural gas (LNG) vesting scheme to generation companies (gencos) as a voluntary option to encourage the uptake of LNG. It said that the gencos opted into the scheme "based on their own commercial considerations".

While EMA offered only up to 1.2 million tonnes per annum (mtpa) of LNG under vesting contracts, the gencos bought more than twice as much LNG. They then made their commercial decisions to build additional generation capacity to consume the LNG that they had bought. This led to the overcapacity situation in the electricity market, which depressed wholesale electricity prices.

The agency added that Hyflux does not have any LNG vesting contracts and had decided to build its power plant after the LNG vesting contracts were awarded to other gencos. Thus, when Hyflux made its decision, it would also have been aware of other gencos' plans to increase their generation capacity, as this was publicly available information published by EMA, it said.

The spokesman added: "EMA will continue to promote economic efficiency and competition, and ensure a level playing field for stakeholders in the electricity market."

In Mr Leong's letter, he had suggested that Hyflux's management was perhaps "blinded by the potential huge profits if electricity prices had stayed at around $200 per MWh, the price level in 2012 when the decision was made". He added that the company committed to a high-priced gas supply contract with no corresponding mechanism to protect itself against the decline of the electricity price.

Mr Leong also said the collapse in electricity price was the "direct result of the vesting contracts given to the other gencos in return for their support to sign long-term take-or-pay gas supply contracts from the LNG terminal, itself another national project".

He added that as a result of the vesting contracts, existing gencos expanded their capacity rapidly. This resulted in a reserved margin of 80 per cent instead of the normal 30 per cent, precipitating the price collapse. The letter also said that EMA "did not render relief to Hyflux at an early stage" to buffer it from the unintended results of the vesting contracts.

On Monday, Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Masagos Zulkifli said the Government cannot use taxpayer money to help retail investors recoup losses from the beleaguered water treatment firm.

Hyflux faces the prospect of selling its biggest asset, its Tuaspring desalination plant, to PUB for zero dollars if it fails to rectify defaults at the plant by April 30. PUB will take over only the desalination plant, and not the gas turbine power plant which sits on the same site.

The Hyflux make-or-break scheme meetings when the firm's restructuring plan will be put to a vote are set for Friday (April 5).
 

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Doesn't make any difference. Chopping started long ago.... before hyflux.:o

Any data to show?

I looked through the past few years financial statements of PUB.

Before government grants, PUB had been posting losses.
 

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Was there any letter on how to vote? Or giving proxy on how to vote? I didn't think I receive anything on that.
 

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Was there any letter on how to vote? Or giving proxy on how to vote? I didn't think I receive anything on that.

Check on their website

https://www.hyflux.com/financial-reorganisation-exercise/scheme-meetings/

All the forms and documents there to download. Probably no money to pay for printed documents or not enough time to do so

CHANGE OF MEETING VENUE ON 5 APRIL 2019

Dear Scheme Parties of Hyflux Ltd,

Please note the change of meeting venue on 5 April 2019. Meeting timings remain the same.

New Meeting Venue

The Star Performing Arts Centre
The Star Vista
1 Vista Exchange Green
Singapore 138617

Nearest MRT Station: Buona Vista

Should you require more clarification or information, please contact Hyflux’s support hotline at (+65) 3157 7999 from Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm (Singapore time)

Thank you.
 

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do we need to bring the printed form down tomorrow or CDP statement? or we just go show NRIC can already? first time voting :s13:
 
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