AMD Ryzen NB Discussion| Lenovo Thinkpad E495/E595/T495/X395 Well-rounder performance CPU + GPU

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Comes with sk hynix pcie ssd .

I open up the laptop and added an cruical mx500 500gb (cost $94 on carousell). Using it for dual boot, ubuntu on the sata3 ssd and windows on the pcie m2 slot

Total cost if shopback approve is
$961*0.93 + $94 = $987.73

Ryzen 3500u
fhd screen
16gb ram
500gb pcie ssd
500gb sata 3 ssd
3 years onsite warranty.

I guess it's acceptable for the price i paid vs the battery life.

This is thinkpad we are talking, not Ideapad, not acer. Even though it's the lower end series, it's still a thinkpad

value for money sia. :eek:

yea its a thinkpad. quality is considerably better than other brands.
 

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yup. don't know why there are people here comparing ideapad series or acer low end mod.

Either students or those haven't heard of Thinkpad.
Ideapad is no no, once I tested that it is very crap laptop.
The LCD panel itself is very poor quality especially for entry models.
 

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What's the difference between E485 and E495 other than the processor?

Is the battery life better on the newer version?

I recalled E485 was only about $600 or so but it's now 800-900
 

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What's the difference between E485 and E495 other than the processor?

Is the battery life better on the newer version?

I recalled E485 was only about $600 or so but it's now 800-900

Battery life should be more or less the same but dependent on usage.
Take note of the WIFI card as E495 is using Intel WLAN which is better
than E485 which is using qualcomm.

If I were you, I just get the newer E495 will do.
 

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anyone tested E495 under load? how is the temperature and fan noise?
 
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Battery Life Estimate

@orlengtao surprised that you are not getting better battery life like the e595 (as per Hive)

Can you run the following command for battery life estimate. (there will be a html report generated & then just look for the batt estimate heading)

1) Run CMD as admin
2) powercfg /batteryreport

Perhaps @Hive and @batniss (swift 3) can run the above command & share their results as well. If e485 and e585 owners also share their results, then easier to compare.
 

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@orlengtao surprised that you are not getting better battery life like the e595 (as per Hive)

Can you run the following command for battery life estimate. (there will be a html report generated & then just look for the batt estimate heading)

1) Run CMD as admin
2) powercfg /batteryreport

Perhaps @Hive and @batniss (swift 3) can run the above command & share their results as well. If e485 and e585 owners also share their results, then easier to compare.

Unfortunately we shared different opinions on "value for money". Hence even if i managed to show you a better result, it will not yield much to the people who already has fixated mindsets. I am just sharing with an open-heart yet all i got was sarcasm. However, i understand some people are die-heart fans so is ok.


I believe a Thinkpad can easily thrash Nvidia MX250 because of the built of the laptop. Your processing power is based on the word thinkpad. Put the thinkpad word means ur laptop is faster by 2000% (like those people stick "Type R" on the back of the car... nitro boost yo.
 
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I also don't know why. I thought is Thinkpad. No idea when it becomes IdeaPad. Didn't know intel & nvidia are considered low end mods either. Now i know, i rest my case.
 

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should I get the e495 or a485? mostly using it for videos, excel (~3-5mb with macros) surfing net with 10-15tabs and occasional light gaming.

e495 - $868.3
Processor : AMD Ryzen 5 3500U Processor (4MB Cache, up to 3.60GHz)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64
Microsoft Productivity Software : None
Memory : 8GB DDR4 2400MHz SoDIMM
Second Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2242, PCIe-NVMe, TLC
Display : 14.0" FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, Anti-Glare, 250nits
Camera : HD 720P Camera with Mic
Battery : 3 Cell Li-Cyllinder Internal Battery, 45Wh
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter PCC (3pin)-UK (USB Type C)
Wireless : Intel Wireless-AC 9260 2x2 AC, Bluetooth 5.0
Display Panel : 14.0" FHD (1920x1080), IPS, Anti-glare, GS Black, Aluminum
Base : AMD Radeon Vega8 Graphics


a485 - $1031.25
Processor : AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U Processor (2MB Cache, up to 3.80GHz)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Home 64 English
Display : 14.0" FHD (1920x1080), IPS, Touch
Memory : 8GB DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
Graphics : Radeon Vega Graphics
Camera : 720p HD Camera with Microphone and ThinkShutter
Pointing Device : UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
First Hard Drive : 256GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2280, NVMe, Opal 2.0
Front Battery : 3 Cell Li-Ion Battery, 24Wh, Front
Rear Battery : 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 72WH Cylindrical Rear
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter (3pin) - UK (USB Type C)
Wireless : REALTEK Wireless 8822BE 2x2 AC, Bluetooth Version 4.1
Display Panel : 14.0" FHD (1920x1080), IPS, Multi-Touch, 2D-Camera, Mic, No WWAN, PPS

e495 seems to have solved the thermal throttling issue, but battery life is weak, generally less well built than A series

a485's thermal throttling issue seems to be quite serious even though it's supposedly better built? only Ryzen 3 Pro or Ryzen 7 Pro is available for selection. Which is better, given the thermal throttling issue? battery life should be much better with the additional 72wh battery.

Going to get another 8gb stick for either choice.

Would love to especially hear from users of the A485 Thinkpad!
 

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@orlengtao surprised that you are not getting better battery life like the e595 (as per Hive)

Can you run the following command for battery life estimate. (there will be a html report generated & then just look for the batt estimate heading)

1) Run CMD as admin
2) powercfg /batteryreport

Perhaps @Hive and @batniss (swift 3) can run the above command & share their results as well. If e485 and e585 owners also share their results, then easier to compare.

sure will do it tomorrow. I set high performance and max brightness, maybe that's y lower. TBH, if battery life is a prob, don't get this

Edited: my battery life report https://pastebin.com/997rNgEV (save that as .html)
 
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@orlengtao surprised that you are not getting better battery life like the e595 (as per Hive)

Can you run the following command for battery life estimate. (there will be a html report generated & then just look for the batt estimate heading)

1) Run CMD as admin
2) powercfg /batteryreport

Perhaps @Hive and @batniss (swift 3) can run the above command & share their results as well. If e485 and e585 owners also share their results, then easier to compare.

Battery report for A485 Ryzen 3, with extended 72kWh battery + 24kWh built in battery.

>> Current estimate of battery life based on all observed drains since OS install
Since OS install 9:34:22

Workload is O365 (Outlook, Word, Excel), Acrobat, Web browser (Chrome, firefox)
 

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should I get the e495 or a485? mostly using it for videos, excel (~3-5mb with macros) surfing net with 10-15tabs and occasional light gaming.

e495 - $868.3
Processor : AMD Ryzen 5 3500U Processor (4MB Cache, up to 3.60GHz)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64
Microsoft Productivity Software : None
Memory : 8GB DDR4 2400MHz SoDIMM
Second Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2242, PCIe-NVMe, TLC
Display : 14.0" FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, Anti-Glare, 250nits
Camera : HD 720P Camera with Mic
Battery : 3 Cell Li-Cyllinder Internal Battery, 45Wh
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter PCC (3pin)-UK (USB Type C)
Wireless : Intel Wireless-AC 9260 2x2 AC, Bluetooth 5.0
Display Panel : 14.0" FHD (1920x1080), IPS, Anti-glare, GS Black, Aluminum
Base : AMD Radeon Vega8 Graphics


a485 - $1031.25
Processor : AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U Processor (2MB Cache, up to 3.80GHz)
Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Home 64 English
Display : 14.0" FHD (1920x1080), IPS, Touch
Memory : 8GB DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
Graphics : Radeon Vega Graphics
Camera : 720p HD Camera with Microphone and ThinkShutter
Pointing Device : UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
First Hard Drive : 256GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2280, NVMe, Opal 2.0
Front Battery : 3 Cell Li-Ion Battery, 24Wh, Front
Rear Battery : 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 72WH Cylindrical Rear
Power Cord : 65W AC Adapter (3pin) - UK (USB Type C)
Wireless : REALTEK Wireless 8822BE 2x2 AC, Bluetooth Version 4.1
Display Panel : 14.0" FHD (1920x1080), IPS, Multi-Touch, 2D-Camera, Mic, No WWAN, PPS

e495 seems to have solved the thermal throttling issue, but battery life is weak, generally less well built than A series

a485's thermal throttling issue seems to be quite serious even though it's supposedly better built? only Ryzen 3 Pro or Ryzen 7 Pro is available for selection. Which is better, given the thermal throttling issue? battery life should be much better with the additional 72wh battery.

Going to get another 8gb stick for either choice.

Would love to especially hear from users of the A485 Thinkpad!

E495, take note thermal throttling on A485 is serious as it is only single heat pipe compare with E serious.
Unless you have deep pocket than go for the new T495 but I feel E495 will do fine.
 

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@orlengtao surprised that you are not getting better battery life like the e595 (as per Hive)

Can you run the following command for battery life estimate. (there will be a html report generated & then just look for the batt estimate heading)

1) Run CMD as admin
2) powercfg /batteryreport

Perhaps @Hive and @batniss (swift 3) can run the above command & share their results as well. If e485 and e585 owners also share their results, then easier to compare.

Current estimate of battery life based on all observed drains since OS install:
3:34:37 h

This is on a E585 with the following specs (2500U, 2x8GB RAM, M2 PCI-E Samsung PM981 256GB and Samsung 250GB.)
Been using this notebook for 7 weeks now.
Primary usage is having 3 different browsers (Firefox, PaleFox, Brave) running at any time, occasionally running Virtualbox.
LCD brightness 80%.
 
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