Dream Cruise is Docking In Singapore (World Dream)

[kia0042]

GD pattern more than badminton, they changed the system 4times since I first visited last March. First cruise credits, then nights, then 0 fee entitlement and now PP. Anyway, they give me free cabin I will go, if they stop giving, I will stop visiting too.
RWG did the same, beginning of this year, they stopped giving free hotel stay at GG and Maxim, I stopped going Genting, now they give me free stay up to 4nights and I have booked my Aug trip.
Once again, I am no big fish, probably just a player that know how to prolong playtime, roll & earn PP/GP better than other players.

 

[datolim]

Am sure many regulars can't really be bothered with these. There's a saying of 'nothing can block the way of a gambler if he or she wants to gamble'. They sure have way to get comp or onboard one or other ways.

Was suspicious of them using USD conversion too when they were still using Cruise Credit or Cruise Bonus earlier. At least we all know 1TP = 325PP (Slots) or 450PP (Table Games) but whether USD or SGD is unknown. Furthermore there's still unclear equation of how much gaming to earn 1 TP. Play within your mean.

2nd Cabin booking only available to Gold tier and above. Majority of these should not have problem to earn enough extra point to make the sub booking.

Vey Positive Attitude. I am sure Genting would happy to hear this, 'nothing can block the way of a gambler if he or she wants to gamble' .....and get Comps.

Sure way to get Comps is to play more.

So how much is your calculated loss to get a Comp week end cruise. You need to get 5000PP. Using the figures in the chart of 1TP=325PP you need to get 15.4TP. In SGD using the conversion of 1.37 it works out to be 21TP. From my previous Roulette ETG play I have bought 1TP by paying $75. Assuming they have bump up this figure to $100, then it means you have to pay $2100 for the week end cruise. If you include port charges and taxes for 2, add on another $250.

How Genting allot their TP for other games could vary quite a bit from this. I think it will be higher for Slots.

The 2nd cabin booking would cost 4 times or $8400 if you play Roulette. Make more sense to purchases paying cash for this.

 

[Vincent66]

PP is only tied to TP and not to be confused with GP use for spending or playing. Wonder why they don't call GP as GD Genting Dollars like in Genting Malaysia.

One earned GP first and then convert to TP. Conversion depending on card tier.
New - 1: 1
silver - 1.5 : 1
gold - 2 : 1
GP used for spending, TP determined card tier and PP used for cabin redemption. I think this is quite clear.
I could be wrong.

 

[lilycll]

One earned GP first and then convert to TP. Conversion depending on card tier.
New - 1: 1
silver - 1.5 : 1
gold - 2 : 1
GP used for spending, TP determined card tier and PP used for cabin redemption. I think this is quite clear.
I could be wrong.

At least the TP and GP accumulation should run in parallel. Example for Slot Play, immediately after you pressed the Spin button, you will earn say 0.01TP while GP will be 1x, 1.5x, 2x etc based on your Card Tier so for Gold Card you will get 0.02GP.

Not sure about PP if is earned together or after last day of cruise. For the old Cruise Credit or Cruise Night etc, these were only reflected in your account after you disembarked. If earned same time during play, you might get 3.25PP for 0.01TP.

GP has a validity period of either 1 or 2years depends on your Card Tier and Active Status.

TP is reviewed or reset every 6mths. If you earn 60TP within the 6mths you will be upgraded to Gold Card or 600TP to Platinum.

 

[Winterdews]

At least the TP and GP accumulation should run in parallel. Example for Slot Play, immediately after you pressed the Spin button, you will earn say 0.01TP while GP will be 1x, 1.5x, 2x etc based on your Card Tier so for Gold Card you will get 0.02GP.

Not sure about PP if is earned together or after last day of cruise. For the old Cruise Credit or Cruise Night etc, these were only reflected in your account after you disembarked. If earned same time during play, you might get 3.25PP for 0.01TP.

Currently you will no earn any GRP since PP started. PP can also be used for retail at 100PP = 1USD. The last i went was 2 weeks ago fri dep no more GP. PP earned is immediate. Like wise PP can also be used for slot or table which you can covert using the Kisok

I heard 26JUL & 16AUG maybe have slots tournament.

 

[Ahboy44]

Previously Tier point is converted to GP for general spending not vice versa. Anyway it's a new system now. Members with remaining GP can only be used for spending 1GP To 1SGD. Its all new system under plus points now.

 

[Melonpeach]

Lots of Ahnehs

 

[Ahboy44]

ahneh is good too. Means no one will be eating at Chinese restaurant too. Most will be upstairs at buffet.

 

[Melonpeach]

Good thinking!

ahneh is good too. Means no one will be eating at Chinese restaurant too. Most will be upstairs at buffet.

 

[kia0042]

I heard 26JUL & 16AUG maybe have slots tournament.

Yap, 26Jul has slot tournament, I am going to try my luck once more. Hopefully not Eastern Ocean Dragon again, I see the game already sian liao. Give me 5 Dragons, I have more confident.

 

[Huatyah]

Yap, 26Jul has slot tournament, I am going to try my luck once more. Hopefully not Eastern Ocean Dragon again, I see the game already sian liao. Give me 5 Dragons, I have more confident.

When I was on the ship last weekend, I was the slot tournament when I log into my account in Kiosk. But I did not redeemed because I thought they will have my record and I can book when offshore. But then when I call to book room, they said can not see my entitlement of slot tournament. Do you have to redeem it onboard?

 

[lilycll]

Yap, 26Jul has slot tournament, I am going to try my luck once more. Hopefully not Eastern Ocean Dragon again, I see the game already sian liao. Give me 5 Dragons, I have more confident.

Were you able to choose your machine from those linked in tournament during the first prelim round or was it allocated to you?

Chances are many of the winners could have been preselected if is allocated to you.

I recalled joined one on Virgo long ago when the tournament was held on Deck 12 Galaxy of the Star. You will choose from a stack of backfaced cards to determine which machine to play. This I agreed is pure luck.

 

[lilycll]

Vey Positive Attitude. I am sure Genting would happy to hear this, 'nothing can block the way of a gambler if he or she wants to gamble' .....and get Comps.

Sure way to get Comps is to play more.

So how much is your calculated loss to get a Comp week end cruise. You need to get 5000PP. Using the figures in the chart of 1TP=325PP you need to get 15.4TP. In SGD using the conversion of 1.37 it works out to be 21TP. From my previous Roulette ETG play I have bought 1TP by paying $75. Assuming they have bump up this figure to $100, then it means you have to pay $2100 for the week end cruise. If you include port charges and taxes for 2, add on another $250.

How Genting allot their TP for other games could vary quite a bit from this. I think it will be higher for Slots.

The 2nd cabin booking would cost 4 times or $8400 if you play Roulette. Make more sense to purchases paying cash for this.

I have never calculated the point earning based on calculated loss as I do win sometime and still earned point.

However I do agree that there is possibility that the calculation could be related to the HA. This is probably why slots play earn point faster than table.

 

[lilycll]

When I was on the ship last weekend, I was the slot tournament when I log into my account in Kiosk. But I did not redeemed because I thought they will have my record and I can book when offshore. But then when I call to book room, they said can not see my entitlement of slot tournament. Do you have to redeem it onboard?

Have you been invited before for tournament?

Most tournaments are on invitational basis probably is what they meant by 'entitlement'.

Recently saw the promo onboard that you can join upon earned 50TP but maybe have to redeem onboard.

 

[datolim]

I have never calculated the point earning based on calculated loss as I do win sometime and still earned point.

However I do agree that there is possibility that the calculation could be related to the HA. This is probably why slots play earn point faster than table.

Let me try and explain what is the 'calculated loss' and 'HA' in the casino.

If you flip a coin 100 times you can say there is a 50-50 outcome of head and tail happening.
But in everyday real life for every 100 flips this 50-50 outcome occurs only in 12% of the times.
Other times you will get 40+/50+ either way.
So if you bet on the side that occurs more than you win.

In the casino for Slots the casino has set the machine , the RNG (Random Number Generator) to be precise at about 10% HA. Your 'calculated loss' will be 10% of your total bet.
In other words if you bet $10,000 you will lose $1,000. Theoretically, but the casino do very well on these figures.

 

[lilycll]

Let me try and explain what is the 'calculated loss' and 'HA' in the casino.

If you flip a coin 100 times you can say there is a 50-50 outcome of head and tail happening.
But in everyday real life for every 100 flips this 50-50 outcome occurs only in 12% of the times.
Other times you will get 40+/50+ either way.
So if you bet on the side that occurs more than you win.

In the casino for Slots the casino has set the machine , the RNG (Random Number Generator) to be precise at about 10% HA. Your 'calculated loss' will be 10% of your total bet.
In other words if you bet $10,000 you will lose $1,000. Theoretically, but the casino do very well on these figures.

I am very well aware of these. But as mentioned before, point will still be awarded to you even if you win. or loss.

'Calculated loss' or HA could be what used by Casino to Comp you additional Perks like Entertainment Credit or Cabin Upgrades etc.

 

[kia0042]

Were you able to choose your machine from those linked in tournament during the first prelim round or was it allocated to you?

Chances are many of the winners could have been preselected if is allocated to you.

I recalled joined one on Virgo long ago when the tournament was held on Deck 12 Galaxy of the Star. You will choose from a stack of backfaced cards to determine which machine to play. This I agreed is pure luck.

My previous experience. Machine was allocated by their system upon registration and a print out slip indicated machine number and my time slot.
I don't think pre-select machine is allowed and it is unnecessary too. The casino knows which machines to allocate to their "short-listed winners" upon registration.

 

[lilycll]

My previous experience. Machine was allocated by their system upon registration and a print out slip indicated machine number and my time slot.
I don't think pre-select machine is allowed and it is unnecessary too. The casino knows which machines to allocate to their "short-listed winners" upon registration.

Pre-select as in the machine number printed is not first come first serve but one already pre-allocated by them to you.

Next time when you print the slip just take note of the one before and after you to see if numbers are in running sequence.

 

[kia0042]

Pre-select as in the machine number printed is not first come first serve but one already pre-allocated by them to you.

Next time when you print the slip just take note of the one before and after you to see if numbers are in running sequence.

Definitely not running sequence because I remembered very clearly the people queuing in front and behind me were Aunties but during the tournament, my left were 2 uncles and right side was a gentlemen who indeed was the third prize winner. We played the same timing same amoutn $8.80, mine was East Ocean Dragon and his was Pure Diamonds. I hit my free spins with 3 scatters and his FS was awarded by "flying Choy Sun". Mine re-triggered with 2 scatters and his re-triggered was by flying Choy Sun again. The end result was obvious different, my 58fs paid $300+ his 30fs paid $6k. Was it pre-allocated? Probably yes, or maybe not because he was so excited till he jumped off his seat when he re-triggered the fs.

 

[Ahboy44]

Definitely not running sequence because I remembered very clearly the people queuing in front and behind me were Aunties but during the tournament, my left were 2 uncles and right side was a gentlemen who indeed was the third prize winner. We played the same timing same amoutn $8.80, mine was East Ocean Dragon and his was Pure Diamonds. I hit my free spins with 3 scatters and his FS was awarded by "flying Choy Sun". Mine re-triggered with 2 scatters and his re-triggered was by flying Choy Sun again. The end result was obvious different, my 58fs paid $300+ his 30fs paid $6k. Was it pre-allocated? Probably yes, or maybe not because he was so excited till he jumped off his seat when he re-triggered the fs.

I strongly believe winners are pre selected. Had an elderly lady friend who frequently lost 20 30k every month for one year and she is also the first person I know to win 2 slots tournaments in a row.