Well paid career opputunities?

gld998

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Being allowed to make decisions is very different from going against your employer/manager/supervisor's wishes.

Your work attitude is typical of this American MNC that I used to work in. And I quit from. No opportunity for growth. Don't value suggestions, and looks like not much of grooming of their employees too. I made the jump and am much happier now.

Thus far, the better companies that I worked for, my managers would tell me why a decision I made or intend to make was not that good and why the other choices are better. Thus, slowly, I would learn and understand how they work/think, and basically how the company works/thinks and thus, slowly learn to make the right business decisions.

I agree with u on your points... that's why I say work smart.. following orders doesnt mean u lose on your suggestions, like for example suggest the way u wanna do and get your superior to approve it...

but I dunno why especially locals die die want their way and they will try to MICRO MANAGE u... This kind of company also I cant last long.... but they know abit and they will tell u what to do.. if u go against them because it's wrong and will cause an impact, they still wanna do their way.. when u comply to do their way and the BAD things happened, they will twist around and ask u why u never inform they... really CCB!! and u will be the scapegoat... and always change decision and not firm on decision made...

I have join a few local IT Firms and they play the same game... The one thing certain is uncertainty! Another usually trend of local bosses is the expect u to go home late... and always look for cheap and good.. lets see how long can u last...

AIya... why make life so difficult.... find job relaxs wan, pay reasonable also ok what!.. Most important is being happy at work... Everyday go home on time.. can play with ur kids... Always work work and work... worry in the future your own kid dont recognise u then u know....
 
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TOTALLY AGREED

I think it's the same for all Government jobs, and not just DSTA.



DSTA == DO SALA TRY AGAIN
do so much sala...try n try n never get things done..
their pay make ppl dun wanna leave ..because unless u get into another govt agency then no pay cut...
really no career progression, no satisfaction
 

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DSTA == DO SALA TRY AGAIN
do so much sala...try n try n never get things done..
their pay make ppl dun wanna leave ..because unless u get into another govt agency then no pay cut...
really no career progression, no satisfaction

but as long as salary is high and keep increase...i dun mind no career progression or have any satisfaction
 

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come across this infopier.sg website, would it make any difference to employment after becoming and ICT professionals?

Just curious.
 

alvinaloy

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come across this infopier.sg website, would it make any difference to employment after becoming and ICT professionals?

Just curious.
That's "ICT Professional" in name only. Qualifications, experience and attitude matter.
 

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For every IT people out there, we all know CCNA, CCNP, MCITP you could get it easily by some "means". Look at those FT who came to Singapore and work in IT line, a lot of them are well certified and don't mind getting low pay.

However majority of them only know how to talk but don't know how to work. I even got friend who interviewed a CCNP holder, when ask him on how to calculate subnet, he just insist of not doing any calculation and give stupid reason like no paper or pen when he is holding his notepad.

Working in IT = Commitment

Always have a willing to learn attitude. This will helps you a lot to gain work experience rather become a cert-collector. Eventually you will see the fruits that you bear.
 

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life in IT is tough with the constant upgrade required. I totally agreed with gld998 find a relax job then go home on time. I personally is in a SI company, there is no life only work. Currently i have hons degree MCITP, VCP and couple of symantec certs. As for what lies ahead seem to me that i am not being rewarded for my effort. In the past system engineer only do system now system also must know network. By the way despite having much exp and certs i am still under contract, i just wanna find a job pay 4k plus permanent job also so difficult.
 

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life in IT is tough with the constant upgrade required.

It is a given especially for a career in IT but you should not view this purely from the perspective of getting certifications.

What you are doing would not be sustainable on the long run; you should move up the value chain. Some in the industry view this as going into PM role and PMs only know how to talk. But the challenges are very different. The other thing you should consider is to specialise in a vertical (telco, manufacturer, etc) where you can gain valuable business knowledge that makes you employable. Remember, we in the IT industry are fundamentally cost centres to the mgmt.

I was thinking about my career recently and this analogy came to mind.

Consider this problem statement:

"I need money to build a bridge to cross the river"

When I started out my career, my role was to figure out how to build the bridge. Later is to figure out other than bridges, are there other ways and how to find the money.

But now, my role is to ask why do you need to cross the bridge? What are the underlying issues? Perhaps don't even need to be crossing bridges!
 

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But now, my role is to ask why do you need to cross the bridge? What are the underlying issues? Perhaps don't even need to be crossing bridges!
Current I'm asking those questions now too. I'm now trying to get into a role where one asks whether does the business even needs the bridge. What's the value of building the bridge, what are the risks involved, are the risks worth the benefits? What best practices, guidance are there to build the bridge in the most effective and efficient manner.
 

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Yeah i guess right now i am still building the bridge that i need to cross over perhaps to consultant or PM. However i believe the bridge at least is in progress at least.:s7:
 

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Current I'm asking those questions now too. I'm now trying to get into a role where one asks whether does the business even needs the bridge. What's the value of building the bridge, what are the risks involved, are the risks worth the benefits? What best practices, guidance are there to build the bridge in the most effective and efficient manner.

The problem, which I discover to this is there are no right or wrong answers. More than often, it's how you convince who you need to convince and how you read the other person's position.

Life used to be more simpler as a bridge builder.:s13:
 

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The problem, which I discover to this is there are no right or wrong answers. More than often, it's how you convince who you need to convince and how you read the other person's position.

Life used to be more simpler as a bridge builder.:s13:
Exactly. More often than not, it's all about change management and thus, finding and convincing the biggest voice to get backing.

Yeah. I sometimes miss the bridge building days.
 

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Yeah i guess right now i am still building the bridge that i need to cross over perhaps to consultant or PM. However i believe the bridge at least is in progress at least.:s7:

Take the opportunity now not just to get the hands on experience and certs but to understand your customer's business and how the systems are solutioned around it. You should grow your business knowledge as well as technical.
 

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Take the opportunity now not just to get the hands on experience and certs but to understand your customer's business and how the systems are solutioned around it. You should grow your business knowledge as well as technical.

qft. Always ask the business questions then technical.... customer fronting jobs :o may not be the best jobs.
 

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i love the job it gave me much satisfaction and achievement but i hate the hours zzz.... sadly my company can only offer pay increment rather than prospect. my boss tell me grass is greener on the other side... at this time change job also difficult. as much as i wanna do more to consultation or management role, it seem like i still lack something... is it neccessary to have itil or pmp to qualify?
 

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my current job has no progression, pays good. wonder if i should look for a new one though.

CCNA SAP
 

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i love the job it gave me much satisfaction and achievement but i hate the hours zzz.... sadly my company can only offer pay increment rather than prospect. my boss tell me grass is greener on the other side... at this time change job also difficult. as much as i wanna do more to consultation or management role, it seem like i still lack something... is it neccessary to have itil or pmp to qualify?
You need to understand the business; how business thinks. ITIL, Cobit and some other certifications can help. But eventually it boils down to you yourself and your experience.

my current job has no progression, pays good. wonder if i should look for a new one though.

CCNA SAP
Depends on what you are looking for. $$$? Or prospect? Or work life balance (more family time)? Or interesting job? Etc.
 
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