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runforyourlife

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Also why is sharing of alternate forums not allowed? It's not violating any law right, like some people also share gaming or product URL. It's just to provide an option to other members.

Other boards do not attract members through HWZ or vice versa. The only traffic they have is through HWZ. Prob that's why?

They are free to advert anywhere else to attract their traffic. It's like someone advertising their blog entries for additional traffic here, not violating any law but considered an ad nonetheless.
 

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Hi everyone,

Sounds like there have been a number of sudden misunderstandings that have escalated with emotions riding high. Let me try to help clear up some of these matters to the best of my knowledge as I would like everyone to have a smooth 2016.

Don’t say we never say! ;)


1) I've noted on the handful of infraction messages that were inappropriate. I've addressed this issue with the team and to be more mindful and tactful in their future messaging.

I apologize on behalf of the team for any misunderstandings that came about from that incident.


2) Sudden concern on the choice of words.

Let's be clear on this matter - if your purpose is to ridicule, cause hurt, pass off lewd comments, etc. – you’ll be infracted. However, don’t equate that with censoring words altogether. We're not unreasonably that you can't kickback at all. For example, cursing out of frustration or just exclamation, we've long ignored all of these to give the community a little room around the rules. If we go by the rules blindly, there's really no leeway for that. But, we understand there needs to be some allowance.

But what we'll not tolerate is directing these unacceptable words at someone as that's clearly contravening the rules. Please refer to general member rules, clause 5.2 and 6.2

http://sph.com.sg/legal/member_conditions.html

Also, kindly refer to this old post of mine:-
http://deluxeforums.hardwarezone.co...tious-remarks-will-not-tolerated-1733312.html

On a related note, I’ve considered the term “Atb …..” - a term that some of you were upset about being infracted on. After careful consideration, I’ve concluded that it has no other meaning other than what it’s supposed to mean and thus, offensive. That word will now join the ranks of it being bleeped out of the system. Which means to say, if you try to beat the system, you will be infracted.


3) Posting photos of others or ladies.

We get it. You guys enjoy sharing nice photos of others.
Nothing wrong with that – this has been ongoing for a very long time and we don't disallow it.

The exception is when you go overboard with lewd comments, be prepared to get infracted. What happened to the days when people just +1 because they liked a photo or pass decent compliments? Often the comments are really demeaning. If you can’t abide by the said rules above, throwing a fuss about it only makes it worse for you as you’re in the wrong to begin with. Yes, we probably haven’t infracted everyone else for similar offences, but neither are we screening every post in the forum. That means you’re already given a hall pass despite the forum rules. If you’re warned/infracted, just take note and move along.

Apart from commenting, if you’re aim of posting someone’s photo is to ridicule or cause harm to them, then we’ve all rights to remove the post or the discussion, again that’s in accordance to the rules. It’s also common sense, no? Yes, the photo (and related info) may be publicly available, but your intention of starting a particular topic with regards to that content is the key issue. Let’s take an example of a knife – it’s easily accessible to anyone and you typically use it to cut meats or other equivalent food. It’s harmless, until you intend to use it to stab someone. See the difference?

Does that mean you can automatically post any publicly available photo? Not really.

i) Someone might write in to object the use of their photo in the discussion because they aren’t comfortable with the association of the discussion or just any public exposure. You might say it’s on the internet, but the user may not have secured his/her social profiles and related image banks, for which we do advise them at the time of complaint to keep such publicly accessible content private. This is related to the intention and use of the image by the threadstarter.

ii) If you post riske, naked, close-to-naked, provocative or pornographic related images, they will be removed and you will be infracted. There’s a limit to what’s tolerable and decent. This forum board is meant for all walks of life and age and we would appreciate if can respect this. If you require adult entertainment, there are other boards to use.



4) Generally, rules are present to be a guide.

It is not the bible, nor can the moderators perform a thorough moderation to stick to the rules - unless otherwise all posts are screened, which is impossible given the volume. So moderation falls upon the task of a few who are here to assess reported posts and generally help facilitate the use of the forum. We'll try to maintain better uniformity, but we'll also need the help of forum users to report on matters they come across that doesn't fit within the broad rules of the forum.



Appeals and feedback
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Having said the above, if you feel strongly against something or a given infraction/warning, please drop us a note in the feedback forum? There really is no point stirring threads in EDMW to voice your justification – you’re not going to get an answer unless the issue has been taken note and investigated. Post your concerns in the right place – the feedback forum. We will not condone threads rallying for your cause.

It is far easier for us to track matters in this manner and communicate appropriately. That said, you’ll need to keep an open mind. An appeal or demand doesn’t mean you’ll get your way and it’s just a step towards finding out why you’ve been warned or infracted. If you feel you’ve been unfairly treated, bring this up to a higher level of moderators, or PM the admins. But at all times, please stay level headed and be open to the fact that you may have been in the wrong. Else, no level of appeal would help because you’ve pre-determined that your way is right. This is the cause for most misunderstandings and spreading misinformation.

I would like everyone to also note that moderators are members of the forum as well – with additional duties. They are just like the rest of you with feelings and opinions too. However humans aren’t perfect and occasional slip-ups can occur. Give them a chance to explain in the feedback forum and don’t mistake or misinterpret their intentions.

We’ve reviewed actions taken in the past when it’s voiced in the right place and channel – so please continue with this as we continually learn and improve the way we moderate, more so because we now have more new folks who’ve joined the team.


TL;DR version – Nothing new, everything has been covered in the TOS and in the existing stickies. This is more like a reminder.


Thank you for you kind understanding guys and Happy New Year. :D

p.s. All posts/threads that promote/support alternative boards will be removed. I don't need to draw the dots to tell you why. I've also received a lot of complaints on members promoting it via PMs too. Action will be taken and if I've not taken any, it's just because I'm in the festive mood.


WOT :s13::s13:
but HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU :s42:
don't be stress and keep sitting on your office chair and eat prata
orelse your tummy is going to burst :s13::s13:
 

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So, is there any updates about the mod who posted the offending message? I hate repeating myself, but I think this question has been asked a lot of times and is an important question to restore any sort of confidence in the moderation team, especially the junior mods as due to a lack of information/transparency, many are suspecting that a junior mod was involved. Till date the only reply I've got is a generic "we will look into it and improve where we can" type of response, without any indication on whether the mod has been disciplined or removed and what kinds of actions has been taken.
 

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So, is there any updates about the mod who posted the offending message? I hate repeating myself, but I think this question has been asked a lot of times and is an important question to restore any sort of confidence in the moderation team, especially the junior mods as due to a lack of information/transparency, many are suspecting that a junior mod was involved. Till date the only reply I've got is a generic "we will look into it and improve where we can" type of response, without any indication on whether the mod has been disciplined or removed and what kinds of actions has been taken.

say so many times liao. jr mod give infraction will use their name. not hwzadmin.
 

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As per my New Year note, I've informed the moderating team that such messaging should not be done. It's a learning point for the team.

So, is there any updates about the mod who posted the offending message?
 

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From what I see, some individuals still trying to stir shyt and bait the mods...?
 

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Vijay kor kor, when am I going to be made mod :(

I promise I won't abuse authority (too much)
 

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Seems like I'm not the one who is not happy, hahaha.

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I suppose 70% unhappy...Got many really is migrate but never return...
 

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Asking for transparency and equal standards, you huan lo?

Transparency get you witch-hunted. As can be seen with the case of ottoke.
Rightly or wrongly, everyone will add on the things he did/didn't do.

Actually, what sort of action were you expecting for the mod that you have an issue with?
Let's say if you are Vijay.
 

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Transparency get you witch-hunted. As can be seen with the case of ottoke.
Rightly or wrongly, everyone will add on the things he did/didn't do.

Actually, what sort of action were you expecting for the mod that you have an issue with?
Let's say if you are Vijay.
Removal of mod status? As to public pressure, if a mod has really done something wrong, including using a clone account to contest for the mod position, then he should heed the advice of the members to automatically step down.
 
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