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Old 12-01-2018, 02:13 PM   #3316
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Sharing Fwiw.. I just upgraded to android oreo (purchased op5 during lazada 12.12) and it works great. Felt slight slowness in usage but it might have been oneplus trying to smooth the interface. Just take note that wiping cache after upgrade is essential for speeding up when you upgrade.. It definitely was a marked difference for me.
I'd suggest a full wipe especially with major update like this to avoid any problems down the road like excessive battery drain, certain features not working properly but hard to pin point.
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:35 PM   #3317
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Best is - Full reset with *no* auto apps-data backup. LOL
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Old 13-01-2018, 12:26 AM   #3318
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juz checked the benchmark, why iphone 8 with lesser memory can win op5?!

seriously, who/which handphone brand started “more RAM means faster” concept?
saw many ppl said dissapointed wif x phone not having 8GB RAM
but moi 1yr old IP7 still outperform OP5

apple sw/hw integration very good
moi ipad 10.5” really amazingly fast

while moi OP5 after updated to Oreo, moi feel like batt consumption is higher overall
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Old 13-01-2018, 01:03 AM   #3319
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seriously, who/which handphone brand started “more RAM means faster” concept?
saw many ppl said dissapointed wif x phone not having 8GB RAM
but moi 1yr old IP7 still outperform OP5

apple sw/hw integration very good
moi ipad 10.5” really amazingly fast

while moi OP5 after updated to Oreo, moi feel like batt consumption is higher overall
How does your ip7 outperform OP5? Benchmarks?

Are benchmarks indicative of real world?

DID u actually try using both in real world side by side and compare?

I used my OP5 side by side my friends ip 8 plus, EVERYTHING LOADED FASTER.

IOs animations are so dated, the ram cannot keep up no matter how u optimize it.
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Old 14-01-2018, 12:00 AM   #3320
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How does your ip7 outperform OP5? Benchmarks?

Are benchmarks indicative of real world?

DID u actually try using both in real world side by side and compare?

I used my OP5 side by side my friends ip 8 plus, EVERYTHING LOADED FASTER.

IOs animations are so dated, the ram cannot keep up no matter how u optimize it.
8gb version or 6gb version?
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Old 14-01-2018, 11:01 AM   #3321
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6gb as fast as 8.
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Old 14-01-2018, 12:20 PM   #3322
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How does your ip7 outperform OP5? Benchmarks?

Are benchmarks indicative of real world?

DID u actually try using both in real world side by side and compare?

I used my OP5 side by side my friends ip 8 plus, EVERYTHING LOADED FASTER.

IOs animations are so dated, the ram cannot keep up no matter how u optimize it.
coming from ip6s, op5 is insanely fast. no point having the world's fastest cpu when the animations slow everything down with no options to adjust it. waiting the animations to load is a PITA. most obvious and most commonly used is when unlocking phone using fingerprint.

then with 6gb ram, i keep all my apps in background so reloading apps for multitasking are instant. no battery drain and i can easily get 2 day standby with 6hr SOT.
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coming from ip6s, op5 is insanely fast. no point having the world's fastest cpu when the animations slow everything down with no options to adjust it. waiting the animations to load is a PITA. most obvious and most commonly used is when unlocking phone using fingerprint.

then with 6gb ram, i keep all my apps in background so reloading apps for multitasking are instant. no battery drain and i can easily get 2 day standby with 6hr SOT.
The whole thing of iPhones is power efficiency. At the power it requires (The a lot smaller battery) and the benchmark result it gives iPhone has the best and most efficient Cores on any device. Android still has the higher power usage no matter what but never get the speeds of iOS

As for animations it is done to Ensure things look smooth all around. There are 2 ways to do it. Slow and nice. Or fast an no one notices. Oneplus does it fast to hide the drop frames while the iPhone does it slow without drop frame. If you don’t believe me you can turn on Dev settings on your Oneplus and turn on profile GPU with bars. Anything that crosses the green line in profiling is a frame under 60 FPS

The reason why Android needs so much RAM is cause they do not compress RAM contents where on iOS and MacOS they compress memory to fit more things into their smaller but fast RAM.
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The whole thing of iPhones is power efficiency. At the power it requires (The a lot smaller battery) and the benchmark result it gives iPhone has the best and most efficient Cores on any device. Android still has the higher power usage no matter what but never get the speeds of iOS

As for animations it is done to Ensure things look smooth all around. There are 2 ways to do it. Slow and nice. Or fast an no one notices. Oneplus does it fast to hide the drop frames while the iPhone does it slow without drop frame. If you don’t believe me you can turn on Dev settings on your Oneplus and turn on profile GPU with bars. Anything that crosses the green line in profiling is a frame under 60 FPS

The reason why Android needs so much RAM is cause they do not compress RAM contents where on iOS and MacOS they compress memory to fit more things into their smaller but fast RAM.
iphone is definitely more energy efficient. i'm impressed actually. am still using a ip6+ as work phone.

technical aspects aside, OP5 is the best phone i've used so far in terms of speed and responsiveness. it's the experience that counts. regardless how android hide their flaws and how inefficient they are, i'm still much more happy using OP5 than using iphone. i rather they hide the animations rather than giving me no option to turn off the buttery smooth animations, i do not want to see them. i want instant everything, iphone is not able to provide that to me. regarding the ram, android is not efficient but 6gb makes up for it, can iphone store as much app in background?

day to day usage, OP5 still beats iphone hands down. everything is instant and that's the user experience which is most important to me.

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Old 14-01-2018, 03:30 PM   #3325
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iphone is definitely more energy efficient. i'm impressed actually. am still using a ip6+ as work phone.

technical aspects aside, OP5 is the best phone i've used so far in terms of speed and responsiveness. it's the experience that counts. regardless how android hide their flaws and how inefficient they are, i'm still much more happy using OP5 than using iphone. i rather they hide the animations rather than giving me no option to turn off the buttery smooth animations, i do not want to see them. i want instant everything, iphone is not able to provide that to me. regarding the ram, android is not efficient but 6gb makes up for it, can iphone store as much app in background?

day to day usage, OP5 still beats iphone hands down. everything is instant and that's the user experience which is most important to me.
Exactly. At least there's an option. Iphones are dated la
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:33 PM   #3326
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Android phones have improved greatly, especially since the days when I had my HTC before my Samsung Galaxy S2.


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The whole thing of iPhones is power efficiency. At the power it requires (The a lot smaller battery) and the benchmark result it gives iPhone has the best and most efficient Cores on any device. Android still has the higher power usage no matter what but never get the speeds of iOS

As for animations it is done to Ensure things look smooth all around. There are 2 ways to do it. Slow and nice. Or fast an no one notices. Oneplus does it fast to hide the drop frames while the iPhone does it slow without drop frame. If you don’t believe me you can turn on Dev settings on your Oneplus and turn on profile GPU with bars. Anything that crosses the green line in profiling is a frame under 60 FPS

The reason why Android needs so much RAM is cause they do not compress RAM contents where on iOS and MacOS they compress memory to fit more things into their smaller but fast RAM.
Kudos to Apple for their proprietary RAM compression. With compression still more responsive than most androids. That's impressive from technical pov.
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Kudos to Apple for their proprietary RAM compression. With compression still more responsive than most androids. That's impressive from technical pov.
technically iphone/ios is more superior, no doubt about it. if they allow some customisation/flexibility, i'm likely to stick with ios.

having the world's fastest cpu and slowing it down with animations is like driving a racing car in singapore with all the traffic lights. so what if the animations/transitions are buttery smooth? i rather load an app in 0.1s than to load it in 0.2s waiting for the buttery smooth animations to finish. using an iphone for 1.5 yrs, i'm sick and tired to see the same animations over and over again. well, just give me what i want, which is the app itself! i wonder how people can actually use it for 10 generations.

oh and not forgetting the back and recent button in all androids, makes multitasking easy peasy, improving user experience.
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Old 14-01-2018, 07:44 PM   #3329
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After seeing the same iOS animations for years, it gets old and dated. If Apple allowed people to turn off their useless animations, it would save so much time for so many people. All that milliseconds to display the animations multiple times a day will add up to wasted mins and even hours, not to mention the useless animations will also take up batt power to render.

Apparently the animation time for each transition takes around 0.35 secs. If we see 100 transitions a day, means every day we waste half a min waiting. Might not seem much but it all adds up year after year.
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Old 14-01-2018, 07:58 PM   #3330
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technically iphone/ios is more superior, no doubt about it. if they allow some customisation/flexibility, i'm likely to stick with ios.

having the world's fastest cpu and slowing it down with animations is like driving a racing car in singapore with all the traffic lights. so what if the animations/transitions are buttery smooth? i rather load an app in 0.1s than to load it in 0.2s waiting for the buttery smooth animations to finish. using an iphone for 1.5 yrs, i'm sick and tired to see the same animations over and over again. well, just give me what i want, which is the app itself! i wonder how people can actually use it for 10 generations.

oh and not forgetting the back and recent button in all androids, makes multitasking easy peasy, improving user experience.
Well there are ways to turn off animations by Turning on reduce motion. Oh well, i Guess about multitasking you have to learn swipe gestures on iOS. On the X it is amazing how fast you can swipe between apps. Technically we do have a back button equal too!

Well I sold my OP5 and a few other Android phones for the X. So far only one Android phone remains in my arsenal.

But sure Oneplus does have the fastest Android phone for now.
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