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Old 19-03-2020, 06:36 PM   #1
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[newbie q] defensive driving

just like to ask the experts here. when you see a queue forming up in the lane next to yours, do you slow down in anticipation that some drivers in that queue may suddenly filter into your lane?

I've been surprised several times by such drivers, had to brake very suddenly...

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Old 19-03-2020, 07:14 PM   #2
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No, just accelerate. They hit you, their fault. Mai scared.
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Old 19-03-2020, 11:53 PM   #3
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just like to ask the experts here. when you see a queue forming up in the lane next to yours, do you slow down in anticipation that some drivers in that queue may suddenly filter into your lane?

I've been surprised several times by such drivers, had to brake very suddenly...
It depends whether you are a perverse driver or a safe and prudent driver.

In a perverse way, if you hit the vehicle filtering out into your lane, the fault is on that vehicle, provided the point of impact is anywhere on the fender.

As most cars are sluggish when moving from stationary position, it is likely that without slowing down, you will hit the fender of that emerging vehicle and win the case (unless a motorcyclist or jaywalker emerges.)

If you have to get involved in an accident, at least ensure that you win. However, the safe and prudent driver, knowing that accidents expend time, energy, and money, would anticipate such behaviour and take reasonable steps to avoid an accident.

If you hit them well, their fault. They hit you, their fault. Their stakes are higher if they are taxis, private hires and BlueSG cars.
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Old 20-03-2020, 10:41 PM   #4
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prefer not to get into the hassle of an accident, hence I'll brake. My worry is some day someone tailgating me couldn't brake in time...
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Old 21-03-2020, 12:57 AM   #5
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encounter a number of time the car always side swivel in to change lane with their front car body cut-in.. they dun do proper lane change.. sibei ccb..
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Old 21-03-2020, 01:06 AM   #6
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It depends whether you are a perverse driver or a safe and prudent driver.

In a perverse way, if you hit the vehicle filtering out into your lane, the fault is on that vehicle, provided the point of impact is anywhere on the fender.

As most cars are sluggish when moving from stationary position, it is likely that without slowing down, you will hit the fender of that emerging vehicle and win the case (unless a motorcyclist or jaywalker emerges.)

If you have to get involved in an accident, at least ensure that you win. However, the safe and prudent driver, knowing that accidents expend time, energy, and money, would anticipate such behaviour and take reasonable steps to avoid an accident.

If you hit them well, their fault. They hit you, their fault. Their stakes are higher if they are taxis, private hires and BlueSG cars.
My fren kana, the car came out too sudden and fast, he going straight he hit the car gas cap area. become 3/7 .
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Old 21-03-2020, 09:09 AM   #7
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Also in those situation you don’t get to choose what car is that

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Old 21-03-2020, 12:43 PM   #8
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Ya la bro! When you request to take defensive driving, the court will make you pay “court costs” which usually run a hundred dollars or more, but you are no longer required to pay the “fine” stated on the ticket.
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Old 22-03-2020, 05:06 PM   #9
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just like to ask the experts here. when you see a queue forming up in the lane next to yours, do you slow down in anticipation that some drivers in that queue may suddenly filter into your lane?

I've been surprised several times by such drivers, had to brake very suddenly...
I will either keep the same speed or slow down.

My reasoning:
1) Nobody (except the the workshop) wins in car accident
2) There'll be time that you're the one that need to filter out because of you're in wrong lane or in hurry.
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Old 22-03-2020, 06:30 PM   #10
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hands on the horn and drive normal speed
the moment see any weird movement press horn nonstop and either bang the idiot who change lane or kena bang by tailgater behind or both
either way you win
remember to post video to stomp, youtube, facebook, edmw, etc
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Old 23-03-2020, 06:58 PM   #11
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My fren kana, the car came out too sudden and fast, he going straight he hit the car gas cap area. become 3/7 .
While all insurers use the Barometer of Liability Agreement (BOLA) to quickly determine the apportionment of liability, the courts rely on the more complicated Motor Accident Guide (MAG). Insurers must anticipate the likely apportionment should the case goes to court, as in the case of this said friend.

Under scenario 20 of the MAG, speed and signalling are considered when changing lane.



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Old 24-03-2020, 01:04 PM   #12
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Speaking of Queues, I also wanna ask for your opinions in this scenario.
- me inside a queue at traffic red light.
- me spotted my right lane no cars , so intended to signal right and change lane.
- same time and moment, the car behind wants to do the same action as me.
- however the car honk at me and speed up to change lane, making sure i no chance to go out.
- i no choice give him first then i go out after that.

My thoughts are, is this the usual way? I thought the car behind would see me signal and would give way to me since i am in front of him.
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Old 24-03-2020, 05:52 PM   #13
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Speaking of Queues, I also wanna ask for your opinions in this scenario.
- me inside a queue at traffic red light.
- me spotted my right lane no cars , so intended to signal right and change lane.
- same time and moment, the car behind wants to do the same action as me.
- however the car honk at me and speed up to change lane, making sure i no chance to go out.
- i no choice give him first then i go out after that.

My thoughts are, is this the usual way? I thought the car behind would see me signal and would give way to me since i am in front of him.
depends who is changing lane. if both changing lanes then if he hit your back then his fault.

if he's already out in the lane (finished changing) and you are only halfway then you should go back in
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Old 25-03-2020, 03:58 PM   #14
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depends who is changing lane. if both changing lanes then if he hit your back then his fault.

if he's already out in the lane (finished changing) and you are only halfway then you should go back in
Ah, the scenario here is both of us changing lane at the same time. When i signalled, i didn't see any cars on that lane, until i kena honked, then realized the car right behind me also doing the same, but he demands that i give him way
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Old 25-03-2020, 07:09 PM   #15
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Speaking of Queues, I also wanna ask for your opinions in this scenario.
- me inside a queue at traffic red light.
- me spotted my right lane no cars , so intended to signal right and change lane.
- same time and moment, the car behind wants to do the same action as me.
- however the car honk at me and speed up to change lane, making sure i no chance to go out.
- i no choice give him first then i go out after that.

My thoughts are, is this the usual way? I thought the car behind would see me signal and would give way to me since i am in front of him.
The exact scenario - the collision of two cars in the same lane changing lane at the same time to another same lane - is not specified in BOLA or MAG.

So, the usual policy may apply: the car which gets into the lane first wins.

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