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HellHunter 11-07-2019 02:52 AM

Cheap EO - Where to buy?
 
Okay, so I know this is a beaten to death topic. I'm just wondering if anyone has current lobang for where to buy the economical EOs like-
Carlube
Meta
Schnell
Shell Helix Ultra
etc?

Another thing is, for Carlube, why are there a few different labels for it? What's the difference between-
https://www.jtf.com/media/catalog/pr...3/7/375585.jpg
and
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9iEAA...THr/s-l225.jpg
and
https://www.jtf.com/media/catalog/pr...4/3/432832.jpg

Those about to warn me that my car engine is going to blow gaskets, catch fire, explode, implode and form a black hole, run away and join ISIL etc. I know already. :o Thanks.

For anyone who might have a new bottle or even a half bottle and willing to let go for a reasonable price, can PM me :s13:

liquidh 11-07-2019 07:28 AM

Carouhell? Giant hypermarts?

elf108 11-07-2019 07:49 AM

Wah I have been dumping half bottle of Pennzoil and motul oil. Next time should give out free.

hachi 11-07-2019 08:05 AM

I have a bottle of mixed carlube and helix but both same weight. Collected from many left over servicing as my oil capacity is only 3.5l.
Self collect at yishun. Pm me if keen.

myviowner 11-07-2019 08:29 AM

Check out Carousel from time to time. Direct users may sell off their current ones with the reason of buying extra and or bgt new cars so don't need liao.
I ever got SH 5w40 at $30/bottle. Brand new. Need to nego/ low ball the seller loh.. lolz

I did shared before, SG workshop selling SH from drum. Need to bring own bottle. $6/L

HellHunter 11-07-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121682231)
Carouhell? Giant hypermarts?

Thanks bro, yup, I've looked through the usual suspects :s13:
Those two, Lazada, Q10, Shopee etc. Didn't really find any particularly good deals. Found Meta for $20 something on Q10.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elf108 (Post 121682399)
Wah I have been dumping half bottle of Pennzoil and motul oil. Next time should give out free.

:eek: Next time tell me when and where, I buy kopi and bring for you :s13:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hachi (Post 121682523)
I have a bottle of mixed carlube and helix but both same weight. Collected from many left over servicing as my oil capacity is only 3.5l.
Self collect at yishun. Pm me if keen.

Cheers, PM'd. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by myviowner (Post 121682809)
Check out Carousel from time to time. Direct users may sell off their current ones with the reason of buying extra and or bgt new cars so don't need liao.
I ever got SH 5w40 at $30/bottle. Brand new. Need to nego/ low ball the seller loh.. lolz

I did shared before, SG workshop selling SH from drum. Need to bring own bottle. $6/L

Yup bro I looked through Carousell. Giant discount price is $29.90 right from time to time? I think cheapest I've seen is at $25 but rare..currently its $39.90 though. I found a few sellers selling for $30-35. The drum one is it also from Carousell? I had found that listing from last year but PM the guy no reply :( I wouldn't mind trying the drum oil..

Thanks for all the replies guys. :)

liquidh 11-07-2019 04:29 PM

Try ACMA’s $50 package lah. It is usable.

Asure7 11-07-2019 04:57 PM

$35.

https://i.imgur.com/91nX11p.jpg


$40

https://i.imgur.com/As7HeJN.jpg

HellHunter 11-07-2019 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121691029)
Try ACMAís $50 package lah. It is usable.

Package one problem is my oil change need 4.6L so all have to top up for extra oil. I ended up signing up for a $40 SHU package. The ws allow me to give them my bottle of SHU for the excess oil. Not bad :s13: Got voucher for less $5 first use also. So paying $35 :o

Z_Dash 11-07-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121681665)
Okay, so I know this is a beaten to death topic. I'm just wondering if anyone has current lobang for where to buy the economical EOs like-
Carlube
Meta
Schnell
Shell Helix Ultra
etc?

Another thing is, for Carlube, why are there a few different labels for it? What's the difference between-
https://www.jtf.com/media/catalog/pr...3/7/375585.jpg
and
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9iEAA...THr/s-l225.jpg
and
https://www.jtf.com/media/catalog/pr...4/3/432832.jpg

Those about to warn me that my car engine is going to blow gaskets, catch fire, explode, implode and form a black hole, run away and join ISIL etc. I know already. :o Thanks.

For anyone who might have a new bottle or even a half bottle and willing to let go for a reasonable price, can PM me :s13:

I used to buy this carlube from NTUC xtra and NTUC warehouse (joo koon) for $19.90. And on promotion they throw in fuel injector cleaner or other stuff.

liquidh 11-07-2019 10:29 PM

Haha. That’s reasonable!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121692246)
Package one problem is my oil change need 4.6L so all have to top up for extra oil. I ended up signing up for a $40 SHU package. The ws allow me to give them my bottle of SHU for the excess oil. Not bad :s13: Got voucher for less $5 first use also. So paying $35 :o


LouisSaha 11-07-2019 10:32 PM

Even though my car is not some performance car, using EO plays a different in my car. Don't really know if it is some placebo effect, but when i use liquidmoly or some good oil, can feel the car is more fluid and more responsive. Using oil like shell helix or those turtle oil or schell, the car feels bloated and less responsive.

http://www.carbooil.de/high-performa...C-NS-A0670.jpg

Anyone heard or try this carbo oil before? Some friends recommend me leh. Saying it is german oil, quite good.

s7460597 12-07-2019 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asure7 (Post 121691400)

Buy from where?

bh10101 12-07-2019 06:36 PM

not sure which supplier did they get from? :s12:
am pretty sure they do not make EO :s13: :s13:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asure7 (Post 121691400)


bh10101 12-07-2019 06:53 PM

check the offering @Fairprice Xtra, Giant supermarket, Forkliftparts Enterprise ... :s12:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121681665)
Okay, so I know this is a beaten to death topic. I'm just wondering if anyone has current lobang for where to buy the economical EOs like-
Carlube
Meta
Schnell
Shell Helix Ultra
etc?

Another thing is, for Carlube, why are there a few different labels for it? What's the difference between-
https://www.jtf.com/media/catalog/pr...3/7/375585.jpg
and
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9iEAA...THr/s-l225.jpg
and
https://www.jtf.com/media/catalog/pr...4/3/432832.jpg

Those about to warn me that my car engine is going to blow gaskets, catch fire, explode, implode and form a black hole, run away and join ISIL etc. I know already. :o Thanks.

For anyone who might have a new bottle or even a half bottle and willing to let go for a reasonable price, can PM me :s13:


bh10101 12-07-2019 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hachi (Post 121682523)
I have a bottle of mixed carlube and helix but both same weight. Collected from many left over servicing as my oil capacity is only 3.5l.
Self collect at yishun. Pm me if keen.

mix breed EO sia.. so damn power one :s13::s13:

HellHunter 12-07-2019 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_Dash (Post 121692590)
I used to buy this carlube from NTUC xtra and NTUC warehouse (joo koon) for $19.90. And on promotion they throw in fuel injector cleaner or other stuff.

Yeh, I was actually keen to try it out since it's one of the lowest $/L EOs out there on discount. Will stock up when I spot a discount. The usual price is about $40 right? Or is it always $19.90 at the warehouse?

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121696700)
Haha. Thatís reasonable!

Yea :s13: still the lowest I've ever paid was through a servicing voucher stacked with discount coupon..iirc $17.xx but that time I didn't need to top up for over 4L EO. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisSaha (Post 121696768)
Even though my car is not some performance car, using EO plays a different in my car. Don't really know if it is some placebo effect, but when i use liquidmoly or some good oil, can feel the car is more fluid and more responsive. Using oil like shell helix or those turtle oil or schell, the car feels bloated and less responsive.

http://www.carbooil.de/high-performa...C-NS-A0670.jpg

Anyone heard or try this carbo oil before? Some friends recommend me leh. Saying it is german oil, quite good.

I believe that might be to do with the viscosity of the oil. Two oils rated at 40 can be quite different. I think think the more ex oils like Liqui Moly are more viscous while offering the same protection. Oils sheer with use so closer to servicing time the car should generally feel lighter/better fc than immediately after servicing but the problem with this is the engine is protected less.

I'm not really too concerned about these things though, my primary concern is if the EO can protect the engine and fc isn't too negatively affected. New oil, imo, whichever brand offers adequate protection. Might just need to do a change sooner.

Where to get this carbo oil? Never heard of it..I think..

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh10101 (Post 121708981)
not sure which supplier did they get from? :s12:
am pretty sure they do not make EO :s13:

:s13: nola..they do make their own eo. Rather it's probably just repackaged oil from their subcontractor :o but it is legit..
https://www.sgcarmart.com/products/o...w.php?ID=10031

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh10101 (Post 121709282)
check the offering @Fairprice Xtra, Giant supermarket, Forkliftparts Enterprise ... :s12:

Ooh, first two checked, thanks for the heads up on Forkliftparts Enterprise..will look into that :)

bh10101 12-07-2019 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121711929)
:s13: nola..they do make their own eo.

they own refinery? :s13::s13:

HellHunter 12-07-2019 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh10101 (Post 121712206)
they own refinery? :s13::s13:

hahaha :o
http://www.petroleum.gov.eg/en/media...052018_01.aspx

bh10101 12-07-2019 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121712527)

do your research leh.. doh just cut & paste :s13:
EGAS is a state own company and Toyota can only invest into joint projects. there will always be restrictions when in joint projects in certain countries (eg. Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, China)

on the other hand, are you trying to say the local Toyota EO are refined from Egypt? :super:

HellHunter 12-07-2019 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh10101 (Post 121712637)
do your research leh.. doh just cut & paste :s13:
EGAS is a state own company and Toyota can only invest into joint projects. there will always be restrictions when in joint projects in certain countries (eg. Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, China)

on the other hand, are you trying to say the local Toyota EO are refined from Egypt? :super:

It's a joke. Don't wet yourself. :s8: :s13:
I've already said the EO they sell is almost certainly subcontracted to a 3rd party. :vijayadmin:

bh10101 12-07-2019 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121712710)
It's a joke.

******** all the way? :s13::s13:

liquidh 13-07-2019 07:38 AM

Engine Oil threads almost always get people arguing. I say just use any oil and change it early very early like every 5,000km.

Asure7 13-07-2019 09:52 AM

If u guys read the wordings on the bottle, both Toyota and Lexus oil made in UAE by SNLOC, with the Toyota one in collaboration with Idemitsu.
Car manufacturers also don’t make their own spark plugs, brake fluid, water pump etc isn’t it..even if their brand may be put on the box.
But people buy because of the trust in the brand, or rather the QC associated with it.

Don't expect too much out of these cheap oil though. They are cheap because they are made to just satisfy basic API ratings, which are sufficient for typical Japanese/Korean engines.

myviowner 13-07-2019 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asure7 (Post 121715431)
If u guys read the wordings on the bottle, both Toyota and Lexus oil made in UAE by SNLOC, with the Toyota one in collaboration with Idemitsu.
Car manufacturers also donít make their own spark plugs, brake fluid, water pump etc isnít it..even if their brand may be put on the box.
But people buy because of the trust in the brand, or rather the QC associated with it.

Don't expect too much out of these cheap oil though. They are cheap because they are made to just satisfy basic API ratings, which are sufficient for typical Japanese/Korean engines.

I got $25/5L bottle. With Markings: sae sl/cf, acea a3, b3, vw 505 and MB 229.1.

EO brand is Delek Lubricants Motorsynth Full syn. From UAE.

myviowner 13-07-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121714238)
Engine Oil threads almost always get people arguing. I say just use any oil and change it early very early like every 5,000km.

Yeah... Me too... :D:D

Asure7 13-07-2019 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myviowner (Post 121717957)
I got $25/5L bottle. With Markings: sae sl/cf, acea a3, b3, vw 505 and MB 229.1.

EO brand is Delek Lubricants Motorsynth Full syn. From UAE.



MB229.1 is quite obselete already.. it's basically ACEA A2/B2.
API SN already supersedes that.
But of course the one you mention is API SL, A3/B3 .. good for > 10 yr old cars.

Think the new cars now all require SN.. or at least SM?

liquidh 13-07-2019 02:42 PM

I used API SN.

weeza77 13-07-2019 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asure7 (Post 121715431)
If u guys read the wordings on the bottle, both Toyota and Lexus oil made in UAE by SNLOC, with the Toyota one in collaboration with Idemitsu.
Car manufacturers also donít make their own spark plugs, brake fluid, water pump etc isnít it..even if their brand may be put on the box.
But people buy because of the trust in the brand, or rather the QC associated with it.

Don't expect too much out of these cheap oil though. They are cheap because they are made to just satisfy basic API ratings, which are sufficient for typical Japanese/Korean engines.

Bro, the golden question. Where did you buy those EO?

bh10101 13-07-2019 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myviowner (Post 121717974)
Yeah... Me too... :D:D

why change EO every 5000km? not 10000km? :s22::s22:

LouisSaha 14-07-2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121711929)
Yeh, I was actually keen to try it out since it's one of the lowest $/L EOs out there on discount. Will stock up when I spot a discount. The usual price is about $40 right? Or is it always $19.90 at the warehouse?



Yea :s13: still the lowest I've ever paid was through a servicing voucher stacked with discount coupon..iirc $17.xx but that time I didn't need to top up for over 4L EO. :(



I believe that might be to do with the viscosity of the oil. Two oils rated at 40 can be quite different. I think think the more ex oils like Liqui Moly are more viscous while offering the same protection. Oils sheer with use so closer to servicing time the car should generally feel lighter/better fc than immediately after servicing but the problem with this is the engine is protected less.

I'm not really too concerned about these things though, my primary concern is if the EO can protect the engine and fc isn't too negatively affected. New oil, imo, whichever brand offers adequate protection. Might just need to do a change sooner.

Where to get this carbo oil? Never heard of it..I think..



:s13: nola..they do make their own eo. Rather it's probably just repackaged oil from their subcontractor :o but it is legit..
https://www.sgcarmart.com/products/o...w.php?ID=10031



Ooh, first two checked, thanks for the heads up on Forkliftparts Enterprise..will look into that :)

The workshop i service my car at is using carbo oil.

HellHunter 14-07-2019 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asure7 (Post 121715431)
If u guys read the wordings on the bottle, both Toyota and Lexus oil made in UAE by SNLOC, with the Toyota one in collaboration with Idemitsu.
Car manufacturers also donít make their own spark plugs, brake fluid, water pump etc isnít it..even if their brand may be put on the box.
But people buy because of the trust in the brand, or rather the QC associated with it.

Don't expect too much out of these cheap oil though. They are cheap because they are made to just satisfy basic API ratings, which are sufficient for typical Japanese/Korean engines.

True. A lot of parts in cars are already contracted out these days to save cost. Lots of tech sharing also. It's all about the money :)

Most people seem to put 'conti' cars on some pedestal in SG though. A little too over the top at times. Majority of these are b&b cars in Europe/Aus/US/etc. and don't need $20-50 a liter EO. The 'conti' taxis plying the roads daily in Europe don't run on premium oil, just the basic bang for buck type that satisfy requirements and the engines keep going without issue. Here many people tend to think their conti is actually worth $200k :s13: when in actuality it's a low-mid range car. Of course Singapore's weather plays a part but still..see too many people going overboard :s13:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh10101 (Post 121726561)
why change EO every 5000km? not 10000km? :s22::s22:

The general belief(understanding?) is that cheap EO sheers faster(esp in hot, tropical weather) and with more city/heavy traffic/foot driving. Many people prefer to change early to prevent any potential damage from oil that's gotten too thin.

I personally find if the car has a bit of horses(not the 90-110bhp type) when the oil gets thinner, you can actually feel the car becoming more responsive and FC may marginally improve also. That's when it's definitely reaching time for a change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisSaha (Post 121732352)
The workshop i service my car at is using carbo oil.

Oic. May be worth a try. How much do they charge for a standard service?

liquidh 15-07-2019 07:28 AM

Some engines have a tendency to dilute the engine oil with petrol when older or worn. So it’s better to change at shorter intervals.

bh10101 15-07-2019 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121743351)
Some engines have a tendency to dilute the engine oil with petrol when older or worn. So itís better to change at shorter intervals.

I agreed on this point.
if the car is above 8yrs old, a tendency to change EO will be at shorter interval. & if one use cheaper EO, then interval will be even shorter then usual. :s12:

HellHunter 16-07-2019 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121743351)
Some engines have a tendency to dilute the engine oil with petrol when older or worn. So itís better to change at shorter intervals.

Oil dilution would apply to both cheap and premium EOs though. Or do premium EOs maintain viscosity better with fuel mixing in? Haven't really heard about that.. Need to do some research..

liquidh 16-07-2019 03:23 PM

Yes. Doesn’t matter cheap or expensive. If there’s a leak, there’ll be dilution. Change every 5-8k kilometres anyway.

bh10101 16-07-2019 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidh (Post 121767624)
Yes. Doesnít matter cheap or expensive. If thereís a leak, thereíll be dilution. Change every 5-8k kilometres anyway.

when one car is within first 5yrs or next 5yrs? :s12:

liquidh 16-07-2019 04:08 PM

I don’t exceed 8k even when the car is brand new. You honestly don’t save much dragging that few thousand kilometres.

hachi 16-07-2019 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellHunter (Post 121741758)
True. A lot of parts in cars are already contracted out these days to save cost. Lots of tech sharing also. It's all about the money :)

Most people seem to put 'conti' cars on some pedestal in SG though. A little too over the top at times. Majority of these are b&b cars in Europe/Aus/US/etc. and don't need $20-50 a liter EO. The 'conti' taxis plying the roads daily in Europe don't run on premium oil, just the basic bang for buck type that satisfy requirements and the engines keep going without issue. Here many people tend to think their conti is actually worth $200k :s13: when in actuality it's a low-mid range car. Of course Singapore's weather plays a part but still..see too many people going overboard :s13:

Agreed, 80% of the BB car cost is taxes, I would print out my rd tax,coe,receipts and etc and submerge them into $100 per litre engine oil. It may make my 100k car run better....

I do change my oil at 5-6000k km interval as I always rev my engine to the red line often...

liquidh 16-07-2019 10:27 PM

Good job. Change early and often. Won’t save much anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hachi (Post 121774423)
Agreed, 80% of the BB car cost is taxes, I would print out my rd tax,coe,receipts and etc and submerge them into $100 per litre engine oil. It may make my 100k car run better....

I do change my oil at 5-6000k km interval as I always rev my engine to the red line often...


myviowner 17-07-2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh10101 (Post 121726561)
why change EO every 5000km? not 10000km? :s22::s22:

Old bolehland car oredi... Change EO at shorter interval:s13::s13:

bh10101 17-07-2019 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myviowner (Post 121780490)
Old bolehland car oredi... Change EO at shorter interval:s13::s13:

:eek: :eek: :eek:


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