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Old 13-07-2020, 11:04 AM   #6016
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the standard edition is $79.90, say 10 million copies sold will be $799 million dollars income

cost around $100 million to produce

that’s a good profit?
800m sales is only possible if they sell 10m at full price, I don't think thats probable considering how quickly sales are dropping off.

And the game certainly didnt only cost 100m to produce, game development took 7 years. MGSV's total cost was 100-120m and that was many years ago, they had to sell 5-6m copies just to break even. AAA game development is a risky business, Sony does it mainly to sell more consoles.

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Old 13-07-2020, 11:10 AM   #6017
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I don’t understand why players bashing TLOU2 the attention to details and animations are top notch.
Polished day 1 gameplay.
Many people enjoyed TLOU mainly for its narrative and TLOU2's writing is objectively not great, the game also did not ship with the popular multi-player mode factions.
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Old 13-07-2020, 12:06 PM   #6018
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800m sales is only possible if they sell 10m at full price, I don't think thats probable considering how quickly sales are dropping off.

And the game certainly didnt only cost 100m to produce, game development took 7 years. MGSV's total cost was 100-120m and that was many years ago, they had to sell 5-6m copies just to break even. AAA game development is a risky business, Sony does it mainly to sell more consoles.

https://www.gamerevolution.com/featu...aa-development
Someone said they already sold 20m copies on release month? That’s full priced sales? About 1600m sales netted in
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Old 13-07-2020, 12:34 PM   #6019
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this game seems confusing.

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Old 13-07-2020, 03:40 PM   #6020
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Intend to get PS4 1TB pro.

May I know where do you think I should get it from?

Do you think I should wait until Dec? So that the price will drop further since by then PS5 is already out?

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It's the same question for every electronics.

iPhone 13 coming out, should I buy 12? New model of X releasing so wait for sale? Amazon Black Friday coming soon got discount? I heard there's an upgraded model etc etc.

If you need it, just buy it.

Also, AC female character is fugly. No need to make very feminine but this is just a guy wearing drag.
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Old 13-07-2020, 04:35 PM   #6021
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I recently got a PS4Pro 2TB with 2 DualShock 4 controllers and free games from Sony official store at S$549 I believe is a good buy! Is it?
Please PM me where did you buy from. Thanks
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Old 14-07-2020, 02:27 AM   #6022
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TLOU1 already sold 20m copies. 10m is nothing really, many PS exclusives like HZD that cost far less to make already have 10+m lifetime sales. Unless they manage to sell 10m at full price its hard to see them make any money with just 10m lifetime sales for such a big budget title.
tlou1 took nearly 7 years to reach 20M sold, and it was released on both ps3 + ps4.

and that article you linked to about mgs5 doesn't really apply to tlou2.

1) sony doesn't need to pay platform royalties or whatever because they themselves are the publisher of tlou2.

2) currently, stats show that digital sales > physical sales, especially so when there's a pandemic. so sony actually receives the full cut whenever they sell a game they published digitally, and a 70% cut whenever they sell a game physically.

3) we know that tlou2 sold more than 4million units within 3 days. and we know that digital sales take up more than 50% of a game sales nowadays. therefore, tlou2 already made at least $120million usd off of digital sales alone. now if you include physical sales, that's about another $80million usd.

i seriously doubt tlou2 cost $200million to produce.
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Old 14-07-2020, 11:50 AM   #6023
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Ubisoft games are not lousy but not very memorable like watching CW Dramas....u know its the same thing every episode but u just cant stop watching...lol

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this game seems confusing.

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Old 14-07-2020, 02:17 PM   #6024
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I recently got a PS4Pro 2TB with 2 DualShock 4 controllers and free games from Sony official store at S$549 I believe is a good buy! Is it?
Not bad. My 1tb Pro with extra controller, fifa20 and crash bandicoot was $480 last December.

Managed to sell my fifa for $50-55
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Old 14-07-2020, 04:11 PM   #6025
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anyone getting ghost of tsushima? the last exclusive AAA game before PS5.
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Old 14-07-2020, 06:02 PM   #6026
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tlou1 took nearly 7 years to reach 20M sold, and it was released on both ps3 + ps4.

and that article you linked to about mgs5 doesn't really apply to tlou2.

1) sony doesn't need to pay platform royalties or whatever because they themselves are the publisher of tlou2.

2) currently, stats show that digital sales > physical sales, especially so when there's a pandemic. so sony actually receives the full cut whenever they sell a game they published digitally, and a 70% cut whenever they sell a game physically.

3) we know that tlou2 sold more than 4million units within 3 days. and we know that digital sales take up more than 50% of a game sales nowadays. therefore, tlou2 already made at least $120million usd off of digital sales alone. now if you include physical sales, that's about another $80million usd.

i seriously doubt tlou2 cost $200million to produce.
Yes and only because TLOU was released on the PS4 as a remaster, only very good titles get remastered and sell well though.

1. I'm pretty sure SIE charges platform fees for all games even if its a first party title, otherwise its lost revenue that they'd otherwise have collected from a 3rd party publisher, which means SIE (not ND) would have "lost money" (opportunity cost) publishing a first party title.

2. What stats show that digital sales > box sales? It was 50% last year, and many of them weren't even full priced titles. I doubt the pandemic would have caused such a huge surge, most consumers won't want to pay for a digital copy of a single player game that only last 25 hours.

3. You'd be surprised by how much AAA titles cost to make these days, especially for a title that took 7 long years to complete. 200m (including marketing cost) is par for the course for big AAA titles these days. Even ex-Sony boss says the whole thing is unsustainable, imagine plonking down 300m only to see it bomb or barely breakeven, its worse than gambling at the casino.

https://sea.ign.com/news/161401/ex-p...-unsustainable

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Old 14-07-2020, 10:59 PM   #6027
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ghost of tsushima review. so far all good ratings.

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Old 14-07-2020, 11:34 PM   #6028
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Old 14-07-2020, 11:49 PM   #6029
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"The problem with that model is it's just not sustainable," said Layden. He explained that current generation development costs reach between $80 million and $150 million (excluding marketing costs) for AAA games, with the work taking up to five years to complete. Furthermore, AAA budgets have historically doubled each generation, meaning that PS5 development budgets could hit $300 million.

He pointed out how these budgets are unsustainable if retail prices cannot be elastic. “It's been $59.99 since I started in this business, but the cost of games have gone up ten times. If you don't have elasticity on the price-point, but you have huge volatility on the cost line, the model becomes more difficult. I think this generation is going to see those two imperatives collide."

Layden believes that developers need to consider spending three years on a 15 hour experience, rather than five years on an 80 hour game, which could not only help keep costs in control and maintain the standard retail price point, but also help craft “tighter, more compelling content”.

I paid close to S$100 for Snowrunner + Season Pass $64.90 + $34.90 = $99.80

and it’s not even an AAA title, is a B title cost S$100 nowadays and who knows now much DLCs to purchase in the near future
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