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PierceLee 13-02-2017 01:17 PM

How would you guys rate the difficulty level in such games?
DS>DS2>Bloodborne>DS3>Nioh>Lords of Fallen?

DS is known for not handholding the players. You are just thrown into the world, no instructions, not tutorial, nothing telling you what to do next or where to go, nothing telling you about the story even, you have to explore and find out yourself. Nioh does a better job at that right? It introduces new mechanics slowly, the first half dozen hours is basically a long tutorial? Is it actually accessible to new comers (say someone more used to action games like God of War or Devil May Cry)? (I keep hearing Nioh is more Onimusha + Ninja Gaiden than DS, it's very different game.)

AikiBoy 13-02-2017 02:03 PM

i find DS harder....
this one got too many boost from item equipments and kodame.

but skill trees too big... but if farm enough. can master all skill right?

qwertified 13-02-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PierceLee (Post 106337107)
How would you guys rate the difficulty level in such games?
DS>DS2>Bloodborne>DS3>Nioh>Lords of Fallen?

DS is known for not handholding the players. You are just thrown into the world, no instructions, not tutorial, nothing telling you what to do next or where to go, nothing telling you about the story even, you have to explore and find out yourself. Nioh does a better job at that right? It introduces new mechanics slowly, the first half dozen hours is basically a long tutorial? Is it actually accessible to new comers (say someone more used to action games like God of War or Devil May Cry)? (I keep hearing Nioh is more Onimusha + Ninja Gaiden than DS, it's very different game.)

Only because its faster paced and moves like combo enemy ->purify yokai realm ->dash away from enemy requires fast and precise execution, the overall gameplay is still very much like DS. More DS than bloodborne because u can block, blocking very important here, will take 0 dmg from most attacks as long as u have stamina.

Nioh has a dojo that teaches u all the basic moves u need to at least beat the first 2 bosses, the skills that u can learn later on, each got a video that shows u how it works.

So far i still find bloodborne more difficult, ds3 is slightly easier than this. The others i didn't play much so can't comment.

Thessauron 14-02-2017 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by qwertified (Post 106333565)
Depends on what games you used to play. If you had experience in games that require some twitch response like bayonetta or ninja gaiden, should be fine.

I played and completed gaiden b4. Not exactly a walk in the park, but got accomplishment feel. :P

Still remember that stupid shoot arrow fight in the first gaiden. Stage TWO.

But that was years ago, when I was ... younger

qwertified 15-02-2017 12:03 PM

Dont worry, once u start playing u'll become young again lol. The first part is some kind of a warm up

tidiii 15-02-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by qwertified (Post 106371952)
Dont worry, once u start playing u'll become young again lol. The first part is some kind of a warm up

lol i die over 200 times alr

now i jus put cup and wait for people to carry me then farm rev for cup and eq

if no people go play yakuza 0

qwertified 15-02-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tidiii (Post 106375316)
lol i die over 200 times alr

now i jus put cup and wait for people to carry me then farm rev for cup and eq

if no people go play yakuza 0

The worst i've fought so far is the duel vs tachibana muneshige (sub-mission). Sipe jialat, i died like 100+ times over 3 hrs before finally taking him down. The dash attack so hard to siam, 1 mistake only he KO me liao.

Main missions not so bad, some bosses 1st time can beat liao. Great centipede is a joke

tidiii 15-02-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by qwertified (Post 106375840)
The worst i've fought so far is the duel vs tachibana muneshige (sub-mission). Sipe jialat, i died like 100+ times over 3 hrs before finally taking him down. The dash attack so hard to siam, 1 mistake only he KO me liao.

Main missions not so bad, some bosses 1st time can beat liao. Great centipede is a joke

the umi bozu and frog need to drown in cement

3dfxplayer 15-02-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tidiii (Post 106378302)
the umi bozu and frog need to drown in cement

Did you imbue your weapon with fire for that boss? Its incredibly vulnerable to fire, you do very little dmg without fire and it will eventually one shot you with the laser at some pt.

Frog can be killed with sloth, don't even need 2, just 1 cast is enough for you to unload your attacks on it.

These are just examples of why I think this game isn't exactly more difficult than soulsborne games, there are ways to make yourself super powerful (extraction + living weapon) or enemies super weak (sloth + discord). The game is only incredibly difficult if you try to play without using the blacksmith or onmyo/ninjutsu, kind of like how DS1/2 would have been difficult if you didn't cheese with magic.

tidiii 15-02-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dfxplayer (Post 106378489)
Did you imbue your weapon with fire for that boss? Its incredibly vulnerable to fire, you do very little dmg without fire and it will eventually one shot you with the laser at some pt.

Frog can be killed with sloth, don't even need 2, just 1 cast is enough for you to unload your attacks on it.

These are just examples of why I think this game isn't exactly more difficult than soulsborne games, there are ways to make yourself super powerful (extraction + living weapon) or enemies super weak (sloth + discord). The game is only incredibly difficult if you try to play without using the blacksmith or onmyo/ninjutsu, kind of like how DS1/2 would have been difficult if you didn't cheese with magic.

bo sloth how to abuse sloth...anyway i beat the slime and toad liao

jus finish immortal flames

tidiii 16-02-2017 05:12 AM

zzzz game crash zzzzzzz

Thessauron 16-02-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by qwertified (Post 106375840)
The worst i've fought so far is the duel vs tachibana muneshige (sub-mission). Sipe jialat, i died like 100+ times over 3 hrs before finally taking him down. The dash attack so hard to siam, 1 mistake only he KO me liao.

Main missions not so bad, some bosses 1st time can beat liao. Great centipede is a joke

You deserve a trophy. 100 times?!?! I 10 times already will consider deleting game.

qwertified 16-02-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thessauron (Post 106396176)
You deserve a trophy. 100 times?!?! I 10 times already will consider deleting game.

Well it was convenient, the entire mission is the duel itself so i just keep on retrying. I didn't know i died 100+ times until i checked the gameplay records lol

tidiii 16-02-2017 08:52 PM

jus finished the game... he nvr take the girl with him :(

sad

WhiteHunter 17-02-2017 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tidiii (Post 106400235)
jus finished the game... he nvr take the girl with him :(

sad

how do you rate the story?? satisfying anot?


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