[green72]

nf2 wrote:

That's strange, in my personal investigation, I filed numerous police report against bank accounts - SPF did not freeze it immediately.

Somehow banks are not proactive in detecting these types of transaction, even when the message to bank indicates Unlicensed Money Lender or Loan Shark - bank will not act on it. If banks are able to assist with red flags, I'm very certain UMLs operations will be affected significantly.

The police can only freeze the account indefinitely so UMLs can only hop to another willing victim turned mule.

That's what I said some post back. That's why I intent to meet my MP for him to bring it up in parliament.

My own case also banks seems so reluctant to react quickly even after I mention money laundering/illegal activities to them.

[nf2]

green72 wrote:

That's what I said some post back. That's why I intent to meet my MP for him to bring it up in parliament.

My own case also banks seems so reluctant to react quickly even after I mention money laundering/illegal activities to them.

But was the issue raised in parliment?

[nf2]

green72 wrote:

There's a discussion on CCTV here.

A door peep hole camera with recordings can circumvent the need for approval, IMHO.
Can also install a motion sensing doorbell to alert.

She needs to outweigh whether to report and possibly get deported or continue to pay and feed the UML.
How long can she pay before she don't have enough to pay?
Start the climb out of the hell hole or stay and suffer.Only she can determine her fate.

For myself, not being cocky or egoistic, but I want them to harass my home again. I've roped in friends from adjacent blocks to be on standby. My sons friends also on standby. My neighbours are also on alert. Watching less and less of my CCTV live footage and motion detection alerts and more of actual TV programmes and movies instead.

I'm done with their harassment. Need to give them some and somemore. Started to go to movies and simple outing to enjoy life as I knew it. We need to move on and live our lives again and not be hindered by fear of harassment.

I have all the time and some resources to deal with them. I can continue to be sharp and ready to go even for a year. I'll deal mine my way.

Need to catch one runner to set as an example.

Why dont you offer money to the runners to surrender information instead? Since survelliance is above average. Chances are those runners might be transaction mules.

[Messup]

CloudClau wrote:

what SPF say is there is a few that deposit to my account , amounting to total of $4k , the one who report my account , deposit $500

Oh... but your reporting is 28 or brought forward?

Hope they stopped their harassment already.

[green72]

nf2 wrote:

Why dont you offer money to the runners to surrender information instead? Since survelliance is above average. Chances are those runners might be transaction mules.

No way should anyone collaborate in UMLs activities. Stop suggesting trying to be the police.

Let SPF investigate even if it seems slow. Too bad for runners even if they are mules. I don't have any sympathy for them. They have made their choices.

[delceer]

CloudClau wrote:

what SPF say is there is a few that deposit to my account , amounting to total of $4k , the one who report my account , deposit $500

Under the Moneylenders’ Act (revised edition 2010), when a bank account or ATM card of a person is used to facilitate moneylending by an unlicensed moneylender, that person is presumed to have assisted in carrying on the business of unlicensed moneylending.

First-time offenders found guilty of assisting in the business of unlicensed moneylending may be fined between S$30,000 and S$300,000, jailed up to four years and shall also be liable to be punished with caning of up to six strokes.

First-time offenders found guilty of acting on behalf of an unlicensed moneylender, committing or attempting to commit any acts of harassment shall be jailed up to five years, fined between S$5,000 and S$50,000, and shall also be liable to caning of between three and six strokes.


https://www.todayonline.com/singapor...ities-arrested


Are you able to prove that you are just a borrower and with no intention to assist in the business of unlicensed moneylending ?

[delceer]

nf2 wrote:

Why dont you offer money to the runners to surrender information instead? Since survelliance is above average. Chances are those runners might be transaction mules.

Really is WTF.
Don't know what is your intention.
Don't listen to this bullshiat.
Just make the Police report and let the Police handle it.

[CloudClau]

delceer wrote:

Under the Moneylenders’ Act (revised edition 2010), when a bank account or ATM card of a person is used to facilitate moneylending by an unlicensed moneylender, that person is presumed to have assisted in carrying on the business of unlicensed moneylending.

First-time offenders found guilty of assisting in the business of unlicensed moneylending may be fined between S$30,000 and S$300,000, jailed up to four years and shall also be liable to be punished with caning of up to six strokes.

First-time offenders found guilty of acting on behalf of an unlicensed moneylender, committing or attempting to commit any acts of harassment shall be jailed up to five years, fined between S$5,000 and S$50,000, and shall also be liable to caning of between three and six strokes.


https://www.todayonline.com/singapor...ities-arrested


Are you able to prove that you are just a borrower and with no intention to assist in the business of unlicensed moneylending ?

Like i say i also victim , my hse got splash n lock when their money got forzen in my account and then now all this simply i suay

[delceer]

CloudClau wrote:

Like i say i also victim , my hse got splash n lock when their money got forzen in my account and then now all this simply i suay

Gather all the evidence to show Police when you go to make Police report.

[green72]

delceer wrote:

Really is WTF.
Don't know what is your intention.
Don't listen to this bullshiat.
Just make the Police report and let the Police handle it.

To nf2, delceer is correct. Stop meddling in police work.

Maybe u are damn pissed with these UMLs but what limited resources u have to investigate, u might unwittingly hinder the real police work.

If really anyone wants to hit these UMLs in the teeth, just don't pay. That action alone do really hurt them most.

Just provide as much info, as quickly as possible to SPF. Timing is also important.

[jeffprobst]

Kns. Stupid loan shark called my house to disturb us into finding the borrower again.

[green72]

jeffprobst wrote:

Kns. Stupid loan shark called my house to disturb us into finding the borrower again.

You know what to do. Report to SPF. Can make online police report. Provide info. No need go down station.

Change number, you deserve the peace. Make number unlisted.

[jeffprobst]

Already reported over the weekends. Maybe need to change number.

green72 wrote:

You know what to do. Report to SPF. Can make online police report. Provide info. No need go down station.

Change number, you deserve the peace. Make number unlisted.

[SilverFalcon]

Just call the police & seek their instructions.

[Sg_Oris]

green72 wrote:

To nf2, delceer is correct. Stop meddling in police work.

Maybe u are damn pissed with these UMLs but what limited resources u have to investigate, u might unwittingly hinder the real police work.

If really anyone wants to hit these UMLs in the teeth, just don't pay. That action alone do really hurt them most.

Just provide as much info, as quickly as possible to SPF. Timing is also important.

I have made police report fin October 2018. After making report, nothing is done and yet I got splashed paint in November 2018.

Recently a few of the loan sharks started harassing me and next of kin. They forcing me to make full repayments if not they promise to make my NOK lose their jobs.

One particular loan shark gave me till Sunday to repay $3000.
He even force me to record myself begging him for extension if not he won’t give extension.

My fault for borrowing money from them. I regret borrowing.
They will threaten to bring problems to those innocent people around you.
This is really unbearable.

Why no actions from the police?
I have given them all the numbers and account numbers since. But nothing is done.