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Old 16-01-2018, 09:42 AM   #7816
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About the same for most firms.


My firm. Associate-semi-senior-Senior-AM-M-SM
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Old 16-01-2018, 11:13 AM   #7817
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Big 4 takes in Non-Accountancy Graduates too. Not many, but got.

Not just Business, even Engineerig and Math graduates also have.

Everyone is on par / equally qualifed after getting their CA SG. The hard part is actually passing the papers. But surprisingly,the NAGs in my firm seem to do quite well... they really mug hard to pass unlike some Acc grads who took things for granted and end up failing.
Ya I know have. Last time I got non accounting friend in big4, in audit because got connections lol.

Now audit season again... Jin jelly pwc auditor so free.. Always go home earlier than me

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Old 16-01-2018, 01:29 PM   #7818
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So strange. Nowdays non-accountancy graduates are now eligible for CA sg too? If I remember correctly, only those with accredited degree can then be accepted into the programme since the rebranding.
Yeah. Non-accredited degrees are on a case by case basis though.
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Old 16-01-2018, 03:18 PM   #7819
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My point is.. The guy above is expecting to be able to get an accounting job with business degree?

Accounting degree holders really go eat grass liao..

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I was asking on behalf of someone else, and yes he has gotten into Big 4 with a Business degree.

Accounting jobs aren't exclusive to accounting degree holders, but surely they will be preferred by accounting firms.
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Old 16-01-2018, 04:32 PM   #7820
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I was asking on behalf of someone else, and yes he has gotten into Big 4 with a Business degree.

Accounting jobs aren't exclusive to accounting degree holders, but surely they will be preferred by accounting firms.


I thought it varies by firm & country as 'business degree' means different things to different people.
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Old 16-01-2018, 05:32 PM   #7821
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Big 4 takes in Non-Accountancy Graduates too. Not many, but got.

Not just Business, even Engineerig and Math graduates also have.

Everyone is on par / equally qualifed after getting their CA SG. The hard part is actually passing the papers. But surprisingly,the NAGs in my firm seem to do quite well... they really mug hard to pass unlike some Acc grads who took things for granted and end up failing.
Yes it’s difficult. Not suitable for older professionals. Lol. There’s an audit manager in my firm told the staff he took 3 papers he say should be able to pass one. He laughed at those who took only one. In the end he failed all 3 but the staff who went steady n slowly passed! I just can’t help laughing at this incident. He’s been an auditor for more than 10 years but no qualification. The seniors are more qualified than him.
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Old 16-01-2018, 05:38 PM   #7822
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I thought it varies by firm & country as 'business degree' means different things to different people.
Even Geography and History grads also get hired because firms believe that technical skills can be learnt....
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Old 16-01-2018, 05:51 PM   #7823
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Why I feels accounting professionals like more & more not professionals in Singapore?


Even Geography and History grads also get hired because firms believe that technical skills can be learnt....
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Old 16-01-2018, 06:19 PM   #7824
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Why I feels accounting professionals like more & more not professionals in Singapore?
Accountants weren't very much considered professionals in the first place. The formal professions are Law and Medicine. They're protected to a lesser extent now but still, you need very specific degrees to become a doctor or a lawyer.
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Old 16-01-2018, 06:32 PM   #7825
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I don’t think accounting is very difficult at all... I don’t think reading Geog or History in school will impede with your ability to account for things.

Everyone need to take professional papers anyways so in terms of knowledge and technical skills, really no difference between accounting grads and say a history grad. I’d say about 10% of my colleagues did accounting in uni...

Why I feels accounting professionals like more & more not professionals in Singapore?
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Old 16-01-2018, 06:50 PM   #7826
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The difficulty comes in the changes of accounting standards and the impact on the accounts and way things are done. Just like the changes in revenue recognition and accounting for leases.

Anyway accounting is only the first step. The eventual aim should be on how accounting can help you get to management level and how it helps in decision making.

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Old 16-01-2018, 11:27 PM   #7827
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There is a difference between bookkeeping and accounting. Some expect bookkeepers to perform like accountants and some only want to pay accountants like bookkeepers.

Current trend seems to be towards FPnA too - but then you often get dragged into reviewing bookkeeping outputs.
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Old 17-01-2018, 06:16 AM   #7828
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Why I feels accounting professionals like more & more not professionals in Singapore?
Difference between entry level and more senior positions which require knowledge/experience.
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Old 18-01-2018, 07:17 PM   #7829
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Ya I know have. Last time I got non accounting friend in big4, in audit because got connections lol.

Now audit season again... Jin jelly pwc auditor so free.. Always go home earlier than me

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Hahaha. Maybe they go home makan then continue again till very late. Alot of ppl doing that nowadays. More comfortable instead of being in your office attire and working.
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Old 18-01-2018, 08:36 PM   #7830
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Hahaha. Maybe they go home makan then continue again till very late. Alot of ppl doing that nowadays. More comfortable instead of being in your office attire and working.
Don't bring laptop home, can work?

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