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Old 29-05-2015, 02:47 PM   #2236
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seems like ntu biz igp have risen quite signifcantly this year.

over the past 3 days, the top 5 students of a biz diploma in nyp were all rejected by NBS. All of us had dip in merit and includes gold, silver , & bronze medal recipients. our gpa ranges from 3.77-3.88

How in the world does a poly student enter NTU, when being in the 10% of the cohort doesnt even get u a spot in NTU? Nuts
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Old 29-05-2015, 03:08 PM   #2237
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seems like ntu biz igp have risen quite signifcantly this year.

over the past 3 days, the top 5 students of a biz diploma in nyp were all rejected by NBS. All of us had dip in merit and includes gold, silver , & bronze medal recipients. our gpa ranges from 3.77-3.88

How in the world does a poly student enter NTU, when being in the 10% of the cohort doesnt even get u a spot in NTU? Nuts
No offence, but is it a possibility that the uni does not view your school as equivalent as the other polys...
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Old 29-05-2015, 03:12 PM   #2238
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seems like ntu biz igp have risen quite signifcantly this year.

over the past 3 days, the top 5 students of a biz diploma in nyp were all rejected by NBS. All of us had dip in merit and includes gold, silver , & bronze medal recipients. our gpa ranges from 3.77-3.88

How in the world does a poly student enter NTU, when being in the 10% of the cohort doesnt even get u a spot in NTU? Nuts
what?? You serious? But the IGP last year was only 3.78? If thats the case i see no point in medals or merit lol. Its the same as a normal dip anyway. So is the IGP this year approx 3.9?
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Old 29-05-2015, 04:10 PM   #2239
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seems like ntu biz igp have risen quite signifcantly this year.

over the past 3 days, the top 5 students of a biz diploma in nyp were all rejected by NBS. All of us had dip in merit and includes gold, silver , & bronze medal recipients. our gpa ranges from 3.77-3.88

How in the world does a poly student enter NTU, when being in the 10% of the cohort doesnt even get u a spot in NTU? Nuts
There are lots of things taken into consideration. Like whether said students are locals or foreigners. Also, I believe nbs doesn't discriminate between diplomas, so you're not only competing against other business diploma students but also engineering and science diploma students as well who could be much better than you. And how does the top 5 have a gpa of only 3.77? Isn't that abit low for the top 5 student? How does the top student have a gpa of only 3.88? What about the 3.9x and the 4 pointers?
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Old 29-05-2015, 04:45 PM   #2240
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There are lots of things taken into consideration. Like whether said students are locals or foreigners. Also, I believe nbs doesn't discriminate between diplomas, so you're not only competing against other business diploma students but also engineering and science diploma students as well who could be much better than you. And how does the top 5 have a gpa of only 3.77? Isn't that abit low for the top 5 student? How does the top student have a gpa of only 3.88? What about the 3.9x and the 4 pointers?

Not surprising that the top 5 students of a course may only have a GPA of 3.77. Different courses have different difficulty levels, competitiveness and assessment.

For example, courses that are more subjective - e.g. design-based where art is involved or any other subjects where it is more difficult to determine "correct" answers unlike fact-based subjects - you will find that it is pretty much impossible to find perfect scorers. For such courses, the disparity between the 1st position and his runner-up may also be very wide. I know of a gold medallist (1st position) who won MULTIPLE national design awards but his GPA is less than 3.8. The average GPA of his course? only 2 point something.


For other courses where there is a more "fixed" right and wrong answers for examinations - more maths-based courses eg. Engineering, accountancy etc. where you may depend more on hard-core mugging rather than talent to score...

They may have the entire top 10% scoring GPAs of 3.9 to a perfect 4.00. In such cases, the average GPA score for the entire cohort may already very well be above 3.5. With such close GPA scores for the top scorers, how they determine the top 3 positions (who may all very well have perfect 4s) is the number of distinctions they earned throughout their 3 years.

So don't be too impressed if someone tells you he has a GPA of 3.9 and above. That person may very well be at the 49th out of 50 positions in his class.
Likewise, don't look down on the person with 3.7 GPA. He may already be the top scorer, lol.

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Old 29-05-2015, 05:25 PM   #2241
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Not surprising that the top 5 students of a course may only have a GPA of 3.77. Different courses have different difficulty levels, competitiveness and assessment.

For example, courses that are more subjective - e.g. design-based where art is involved or any other subjects where it is more difficult to determine "correct" answers unlike fact-based subjects - you will find that it is pretty much impossible to find perfect scorers. For such courses, the disparity between the 1st position and his runner-up may also be very wide. I know of a gold medallist (1st position) who won MULTIPLE national design awards but his GPA is less than 3.8. The average GPA of his course? only 2 point something.


For other courses where there is a more "fixed" right and wrong answers for examinations - more maths-based courses eg. Engineering, accountancy etc. where you may depend more on hard-core mugging rather than talent to score...

They may have the entire top 10% scoring GPAs of 3.9 to a perfect 4.00. In such cases, the average GPA score for the entire cohort may already very well be above 3.5. With such close GPA scores for the top scorers, how they determine the top 3 positions (who may all very well have perfect 4s) is the number of distinctions they earned throughout their 3 years.

So don't be too impressed if someone tells you he has a GPA of 3.9 and above. That person may very well be at the 49th out of 50 positions in his class.
Likewise, don't look down on the person with 3.7 GPA. He may already be the top scorer, lol.
Hmmm. Then that seems to be the problem with the poly right? I mean. NTU would assume that a 3.8 in mech engin would be the same as a 3.8 from biz or accountancy. If both are applying to a course in ntu that has no diploma pre-requisites, Ntu would view both as equals.
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Old 29-05-2015, 05:57 PM   #2242
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Just submitted my appeal to EEE! Good luck to everyone who is appealing!
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Old 29-05-2015, 06:02 PM   #2243
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seems like ntu biz igp have risen quite signifcantly this year.

over the past 3 days, the top 5 students of a biz diploma in nyp were all rejected by NBS. All of us had dip in merit and includes gold, silver , & bronze medal recipients. our gpa ranges from 3.77-3.88

How in the world does a poly student enter NTU, when being in the 10% of the cohort doesnt even get u a spot in NTU? Nuts
I have a friend who manage to secure a place in NBS for accountancy with CGPA 3.7+. Her 5 seems CGPA was 3.82 tho. She just graduated from NYP dip in accountancy and apply for uni this year.
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Old 29-05-2015, 06:05 PM   #2244
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Hmmm. Then that seems to be the problem with the poly right? I mean. NTU would assume that a 3.8 in mech engin would be the same as a 3.8 from biz or accountancy. If both are applying to a course in ntu that has no diploma pre-requisites, Ntu would view both as equals.
Yups! Exactly! That is why I think they should factor in a person's academic standing as well.

Currently there isn't enough of a difference made between Diploma with Merit holders and a normal diploma.
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Old 29-05-2015, 07:07 PM   #2245
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Im your ntu NBS seniors. Most of the poly grads around me have gpa 3.9 to 4 if that helps.
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Old 29-05-2015, 07:13 PM   #2246
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I have been accepted into NTU EEE! Since I accepted the offer in the joint acceptance portal already, if my appeal to NTU EEE with a minor in business fails, I'm still offered a slot right ?
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Old 29-05-2015, 08:55 PM   #2247
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Just submitted my appeal to EEE! Good luck to everyone who is appealing!
hi,would u mind share ur grade?
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Old 29-05-2015, 10:01 PM   #2248
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Yups! Exactly! That is why I think they should factor in a person's academic standing as well.

Currently there isn't enough of a difference made between Diploma with Merit holders and a normal diploma.
Actually, I dont think it should leh. I mean, that would skew against courses whereby there is a larger concentration of smarter people. They would lose out due to the bellcurve in their course being skewed to the right. It would be easier to attain a merit in courses that are easier and that has less capable students. That wouldnt be very fair.

I'm all for factoring a person's academic standing using a universal system that encompasses all courses instead. This would make it much easier. If it is universal, then we would know that a 3.9 from mech engin is better than a 3.4 from say, business. And if there were two people from different courses with the same GPA, they would be viewed as being equally capable.
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Old 29-05-2015, 10:06 PM   #2249
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Just submitted my appeal to EEE! Good luck to everyone who is appealing!
Appealed to eee too! Mind share ur gpa?
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Old 29-05-2015, 10:36 PM   #2250
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any NTU computer science seniors here? Can i survive engineering maths 1 and 2 if i'm from poly. i took a-math during a-levels tho.
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