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Old 09-02-2019, 08:04 PM   #1
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SIT vs Overseas Uni?

I'm currently in NS and I've been offered Computer Science from Uni of Glasgow at SIT and Computer Science in UNSW Sydney.

Honestly, my heart tells me UNSW because of the overseas exposure and possibly better quality of education that isn't memorization based, but my only worries are that Australian unis are stigmatized (is it true??) as local U rejects and that might affect my employability and starting salary.

I am very open to working overseas for a couple of years but I'll probably come back to SG to live as my family is here.

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SIT vs UNSW Computer Science - which one has better job prospects in Singapore?

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Old 09-02-2019, 09:54 PM   #2
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SIT is good also cheaper also
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:58 PM   #3
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How many years at UNSW?
If u worried about oz why not venture to UK or Canada.
Uk today finding job not easy, Oz also getting harder
Cost wise cannot beat SIT

If u keen on working overseas check out their job site
https://www.seek.com.au/Computer-jobs-in-information-communication-technology/in-All-Sydney-NSW
https://www.indeed.ca/

Computer science job hire ppl not base on paper, interview generally all technical qns. Alumni helps with the selection, cannot get past the first 2 rounds of interview also like that. Career prospects moving up doesnít count on paper, itís more ppl relationship in many case. Itís unsw after all not ivy will not catch attention of ppl.

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Old 10-02-2019, 02:44 AM   #4
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tldr - both offer same job prospects in sg.
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:26 AM   #5
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How many years at UNSW?
If u worried about oz why not venture to UK or Canada.
2 years in UNSW for Pass, 3 years for Honours. Do you know some good UK/Canadian Unis I can try for with 2.9x GPA from local poly?


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Computer science job hire ppl not base on paper, interview generally all technical qns. Alumni helps with the selection, cannot get past the first 2 rounds of interview also like that. Career prospects moving up doesnít count on paper, itís more ppl relationship in many case. Itís unsw after all not ivy will not catch attention of ppl.
I actually already understood what you mean, but what I really wanna know is that assuming my technical capability will be the same no matter where Uni I went to (I believe SIT and UNSW are both good schools), does it matter if my degree is from UNSW or SIT? Do employers really look down on Australian unis as local U rejects?
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:29 AM   #6
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tldr - both offer same job prospects in sg.
Thank you if it was an honest opinion👍
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:57 AM   #7
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I actually already understood what you mean, but what I really wanna know is that assuming my technical capability will be the same no matter where Uni I went to (I believe SIT and UNSW are both good schools), does it matter if my degree is from UNSW or SIT? Do employers really look down on Australian unis as local U rejects?
if degree is looked down, U will get pass the selection round to show off your technical capability.
if U get past the technical test.. then its really up to your attitude and how u present yourself.

if U want to get into big company like Google/MS, best check out the Linkedin to get some info. My brief search not found anyone from Oz, mostly local ivy or those North American uni
Eg
https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-xiaoni-lai-99a36a25
https://www.linkedin.com/in/florbela-lei-5764386
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jianweichuah
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-yeung-51bb3a1


2 years in UNSW for Pass, 3 years for Honours. Do you know some good UK/Canadian Unis I can try for with 2.9x GPA from local poly?
OZ are U going in 2020 or 2019? 2 yrs is like aud$100k and aud$50k for living. do honors and it will be another aud$80K.
http://indicativefees.unsw.edu.au/

2.9+ getting into top Canadian uni slim.. UT,UBC,Waterloo and even mcgill is out. McMaster, Calgary, SFU, Queens stretch.. issue is transfer is little and have to spend 3.5yrs even if U get admitted. will have to do transfer route to 2nd chance with UBC, UT such uni. cost will definitely run higher.

ubc okanagan to UBC main campus transfer route that will run u ~cad$100K for 1st 2yr and cad$130K for the last 2 yrs; but this is a honors equivalent degree.

UK, U can try Manchester or Birmingham, Surrey, Bath. with UCAS U can select 5 uni.. can even throw in typically hard to reach Uni such as Warwick. With Brexit this may affect number of international students applying to their Uni.

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Look at your ROI. Huge cost to do your degree overseas. Will take a while to breakeven. Unless you come from a rich family, inadvisable especially you can get into SIT which is a local university already.
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Look at your ROI. Huge cost to do your degree overseas. Will take a while to breakeven. Unless you come from a rich family, inadvisable especially you can get into SIT which is a local university already.
sit-glasgow is diff from sit. one DL one local.
2year in unsw u will need roughly 160k sgd to live comfortable. can drop to 150k if u stay outside of campus (im doing 2years there now) and honestly there's too many chinese in sydney. so u go there dont really have the "feel" of u being in angmo uni. just go sit-glasgow if u dont plan/wish to migrate. cheaper and roi faster. got experience liao all will be same level. if u talk about Australia being "stigmatised" , SIT also included. so is samesame. only good thing go overseas is... freedom


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Old 10-02-2019, 06:12 PM   #10
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if degree is looked down, U will get pass the selection round to show off your technical capability.
So being a UNSW graduate will get me to the interview stage without problem yeah?

2.9+ getting into top Canadian uni slim.. UT,UBC,Waterloo and even mcgill is out. McMaster, Calgary, SFU, Queens stretch.. issue is transfer is little and have to spend 3.5yrs even if U get admitted. will have to do transfer route to 2nd chance with UBC, UT such uni. cost will definitely run higher.

ubc okanagan to UBC main campus transfer route that will run u ~cad$100K for 1st 2yr and cad$130K for the last 2 yrs; but this is a honors equivalent degree.
What if I do SATs? Will it increase my chances of getting into top Canadian uni dramatically? Is it really worth the extra trouble/time/cost to go to Canada vs Aus for uni?

UK, U can try Manchester or Birmingham, Surrey, Bath. with UCAS U can select 5 uni.. can even throw in typically hard to reach Uni such as Warwick. With Brexit this may affect number of international students applying to their Uni.
Any reason to go to these Unis over UNSW? It's a genuine question as I always thought UNSW Comp Science is way stronger than most UK unis.



sit-glasgow is diff from sit. one DL one local.
2year in unsw u will need roughly 160k sgd to live comfortable. can drop to 150k if u stay outside of campus (im doing 2years there now) and honestly there's too many chinese in sydney. so u go there dont really have the "feel" of u being in angmo uni. just go sit-glasgow if u dont plan/wish to migrate. cheaper and roi faster. got experience liao all will be same level. if u talk about Australia being "stigmatised" , SIT also included. so is samesame. only good thing go overseas is... freedom


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Jia lat! Even someone currently in UNSW is telling me to not go to UNSW. Is it a bad idea? What made you go to UNSW in the first place and do you have any regrets attending UNSW?


Look at your ROI. Huge cost to do your degree overseas. Will take a while to breakeven. Unless you come from a rich family, inadvisable especially you can get into SIT which is a local university already.
Don't think I'm rich, but parents saved up enough to cover overseas uni. In fact, they are the ones who are pushing me to go overseas which is why I applied even while holding an offer from SIT.

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So being a UNSW graduate will get me to the interview stage without problem yeah?



What if I do SATs? Will it increase my chances of getting into top Canadian uni dramatically? Is it really worth the extra trouble/time/cost to go to Canada vs Aus for uni?


Any reason to go to these Unis over UNSW? It's a genuine question as I always thought UNSW Comp Science is way stronger than most UK unis.






Jia lat! Even someone currently in UNSW is telling me to not go to UNSW. Is it a bad idea? What made you go to UNSW in the first place and do you have any regrets attending UNSW?




Don't think I'm rich, but parents saved up enough to cover overseas uni. In fact, they are the ones who are pushing me to go overseas which is why I applied even while holding an offer from SIT.
Just think of all the sit conferred degree as full time degree accredited from the overseas uni itself so in terms of recognition, you get from overseas country for the overseas uni name branding and local branding aka sit which happens to be a legit backed up by gov in sg degree.

So you can go wrong with sit. It's basically cutting out the campus uni life, stay, exposure. You get the same quality education as the ones in the UK just tweaked a little to suit south East Asian text.

So overseas uni you don't get the recognition like local degree branding in sg yet have to pay 6 digit sum.

In sit you get recognition for local degree plus your degree conferred from Glasgow can help you get job opportunities outside Singapore for the UK University name. Plus!! You only pay 10-11k per year which is dirt cheap
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So being a UNSW graduate will get me to the interview stage without problem yeah?

What if I do SATs? Will it increase my chances of getting into top Canadian uni dramatically? Is it really worth the extra trouble/time/cost to go to Canada vs Aus for uni?

Any reason to go to these Unis over UNSW? It's a genuine question as I always thought UNSW Comp Science is way stronger than most UK unis.




Jia lat! Even someone currently in UNSW is telling me to not go to UNSW. Is it a bad idea? What made you go to UNSW in the first place and do you have any regrets attending UNSW?


Don't think I'm rich, but parents saved up enough to cover overseas uni. In fact, they are the ones who are pushing me to go overseas which is why I applied even while holding an offer from SIT.
i go unsw because its the best choice and gpa only 3 (cmi to ntu nus, harsh truth but idc as its experience that count in the end, once i got my license we are all on the same line) currently studying EE in unsw because its recognsied by sg board while sit-tum or sit-newcastle are not recognise by sg board as its considered DL and not local U. only programme offered by SIT directly is considered local. sit-glasgow is not considered local as well. SIT is like SUSS. Sit-Overseas is like SIMGE.

i totally have no regrets. made alot of aussie friends + sg/msia/saudi/hk/china friends who are more higher ses kind of people as their parents are biz owners etc. network & connection! and its FUN. freedom to do what u want. travel and explore around.

Reason i suggest u not to because for your case, theres no recognition involve. so u go either one is same same. for elec/mech/civil/architecture etc recognition by the board is very important in order to practise. comp sci don't have such.

oh got a friend studying comp and secured a internship in Sydney 7k/month for summer. if u are attracted by higher income or oversea work experience or for futhre migration then u come aus lo. In aus, once u graduated u can get 2year visa (not sure if its 1 or 2 must check). if just want work in sg and stay in sg and die in sg, just go sit-glasgow. save alot $$ can use for wedding bto car or investment or whatever ****. very simple. ask yourself what u want. if $ is totally not an issue (can affford to splurge) then come aus.

add on: actually got abit regret coming to unsw. too hard. should gone to uq or something, heard its easier. who dahell make DSP as core module?!! even nus ntu only make signal & system as core and not dsp. dsp should be specialisation. and unsw made analog & digital communications a core recently sht! its non related but just want to kp

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i go unsw because its the best choice and gpa only 3 (cmi to ntu nus, harsh truth but idc as its experience that count in the end, once i got my license we are all on the same line) currently studying EE in unsw because its recognsied by sg board while sit-tum or sit-newcastle are not recognise by sg board as its considered DL and not local U. only programme offered by SIT directly is considered local. sit-glasgow is not considered local as well. SIT is like SUSS. Sit-Overseas is like SIMGE.

i totally have no regrets. made alot of aussie friends + sg/msia/saudi/hk/china friends who are more higher ses kind of people as their parents are biz owners etc. network & connection! and its FUN. freedom to do what u want. travel and explore around.

Reason i suggest u not to because for your case, theres no recognition involve. so u go either one is same same. for elec/mech/civil/architecture etc recognition by the board is very important in order to practise. comp sci don't have such.

oh got a friend studying comp and secured a internship in Sydney 7k/month for summer. if u are attracted by higher income or oversea work experience or for futhre migration then u come aus lo. In aus, once u graduated u can get 2year visa (not sure if its 1 or 2 must check). if just want work in sg and stay in sg and die in sg, just go sit-glasgow. save alot $$ can use for wedding bto car or investment or whatever ****. very simple. ask yourself what u want. if $ is totally not an issue (can affford to splurge) then come aus.

add on: actually got abit regret coming to unsw. too hard. should gone to uq or something, heard its easier. who dahell make DSP as core module?!! even nus ntu only make signal & system as core and not dsp. dsp should be specialisation. and unsw made analog & digital communications a core recently sht! its non related but just want to kp

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If you say sit overseas is comparable to simge then why GES shows Glasgow students from sit studying computer science earn 300-400 less than their ntu and nus counterparts who are studying the same subject? Gpa needed to get into sit is 2.9 lowest. Australian take in anyone even with gpa 1.4 ( my friend is studying in one). So no, sit conferred degree are not similar to simge as they are subsides degree program in Singapore compared to sim
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I'm currently in NS and I've been offered Computer Science from Uni of Glasgow at SIT and Computer Science in UNSW Sydney.

Honestly, my heart tells me UNSW because of the overseas exposure and possibly better quality of education that isn't memorization based, but my only worries are that Australian unis are stigmatized (is it true??) as local U rejects and that might affect my employability and starting salary.

I am very open to working overseas for a couple of years but I'll probably come back to SG to live as my family is here.

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SIT vs UNSW Computer Science - which one has better job prospects in Singapore?
Hello. I am not an expert in this matter so just giving my 2 cents here

I read from somewhere else that those overseas programmes in SIT are conferred by at the end of the day the overseas uni themselves

so your degree at the end of the day is conferred by UoG and not SIT

Only SIT-conferred degrees like accountancy, ICT, SIE etc will be awarded by SIT themselves. And these degrees are considered to be from local uni (SIT)

So i think the question should be UoG VS UNSW instead of SIT VS UNSW
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If you say sit overseas is comparable to simge then why GES shows Glasgow students from sit studying computer science earn 300-400 less than their ntu and nus counterparts who are studying the same subject? Gpa needed to get into sit is 2.9 lowest. Australian take in anyone even with gpa 1.4 ( my friend is studying in one). So no, sit conferred degree are not similar to simge as they are subsides degree program in Singapore compared to sim
friend of mine gpa 1.4 need take foundation in unsw first for 1year and must do well then can go take bachelor 4years. screw up foundation thats your daiji. and is not direct entry to bachelor program hor (depends on which uni actually, GO8 unis have higher requirements). To get exemptions from poly related course need min gpa 2.5 i think. simge and sit-ou is considered DL. like what the post above me said, SIT-OU is not SIT, period. SIT-glasgow is like SIM (now suss) offering UOL, UOM, UOB, RMIT.


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