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Byfrost 21-01-2019 01:14 PM

Recommend me a camera
 
Hi all

I'm a total newbie in photography, and I'm currently looking for a camera to potentially start this hobby.

I'm trying to read as much as possible in the meantime.

My budget is around $1k, but lower will be great. I've been watching YouTube recommendations and I listed down a few:

1) FujiFlim XF10
2) FujiFlim XT100
3) Canon EOS M50
4) Ricoh GR3 (coming out soon),

Here are my requirements:

1) APS-C Sensor size.

1) Pocket-able size (I know, options 2 and 3 are not), but would be good for travelling.

2) General "All in one" camera that can be used in all situations, a "balanced" camera. I know, most would say "there is no such thing as an all in one camera or lens". But for a beginner who wants to shoot random stuff, what do you recommend? I like to take photos of landscape, animals, scenery, "street photography", plants etc

3) Should I invest more in a camera with interchangeable lens, or should i get a camera that has a fixed lens?

What if I buy the fixed lens point and shoot, and I want to change lens in future to further my photography hobby? What If I spend more and get a camera with interchangeable lens, and end up sticking to the same kit lens forever? Any experts here to chime in their opinions?

hacktic 21-01-2019 07:51 PM

cant speak for those 4 models becos i've never used them and only been a canon/sony fanboy
closest was to a canon M because i had invested in canon EF/EFS lens for my DSLR and would just need an M adaptor but i took another plunge and went for sony.

since you are a total noob, selecting the system is pretty important because u will probably be invested in the lens as well.


you basically answered your own question in buying fixed lens and what not so....yea
if you are still undecided, why not loan from a friend or buy 2nd hand.
if one month later and you find yourself not loving photography, you can return or resell it.

chiaRH 22-01-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Byfrost (Post 118751607)
3) Should I invest more in a camera with interchangeable lens, or should i get a camera that has a fixed lens?

What if I buy the fixed lens point and shoot, and I want to change lens in future to further my photography hobby? What If I spend more and get a camera with interchangeable lens, and end up sticking to the same kit lens forever? Any experts here to chime in their opinions?

Interchangeable is always better as it gives more flexibility. If you buy an interchangeable lens camera and only stick to the kit lens, you still have an upgrade path if you are more interested to try other lenses in future.

But you have to ask yourself how truly enthusiastic you are about photography. You know your own preferences the best so you decide how far you want to take photography.

Owning a camera isn't just about buying a body and lens. you have tripods and filters if you want to do long exposure (and most people would highly recommend a UV filter as protection for your lens), you'll need to invest in storage for your lenses (drybox, dessicants etc)

Most people today just use their smartphones for photography due to the sheer convenience and also because smartphone photo quality has improved a lot.

You have to consider what way does your current smartphone fall short of your requirements that you'd want to invest in a dedicated camera? Because if the phone all along is good enough for your needs, owning a camera might be a waste, and an expensive waste too.

Nakedtoes 22-01-2019 05:32 PM

If u really want learn photography.. Get an entry DSLR.

hacktic 22-01-2019 06:02 PM

landscape : wide angle lens
street for everyday walkabout scenes : kit zoom lens will do
protraits : some fast prime lens
sports: telephoto lens to get closer to the players' action
food and insects : macro lens

all the makers should and would have an extensive list of lens listed above....

Nakedtoes 22-01-2019 07:20 PM

To fully learn photography. U need dslr that can shoot manual, playing with different type of metering.. playing with exposures, flash,etc..

Know the mechanics of photography then learn composition etc.. When to over expose or under expose.

alamakazim 22-01-2019 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nakedtoes (Post 118775679)
To fully learn photography. U need dslr that can shoot manual, playing with different type of metering.. playing with exposures, flash,etc..

Know the mechanics of photography then learn composition etc.. When to over expose or under expose.

actually....

mirrorless and some good compact camera have manual controls

even smartphone also have manual controls

hacktic 22-01-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alamakazim (Post 118779019)
actually....

mirrorless and some good compact camera have manual controls

even smartphone also have manual controls

Maybe itís the feel.... of something heavy built, the ability to turn and flick aperture/shutter speed settings, a viewfinder....
A mobile phone canít give u that control feeling. Itís basically tap this and that..a GUI.

Nakedtoes 22-01-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alamakazim (Post 118779019)
actually....

mirrorless and some good compact camera have manual controls

even smartphone also have manual controls

Mirror less and phone due to the size u dun have that control like exposure lock.. Types of focusing, types of metering, different wb control, iso control, remote flash control etc.. There are more in a full fledge dslr camera compare to most mirrorless cam.

xonix 23-01-2019 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byfrost (Post 118751607)
Hi all

I'm a total newbie in photography, and I'm currently looking for a camera to potentially start this hobby.

I'm trying to read as much as possible in the meantime.

My budget is around $1k, but lower will be great. I've been watching YouTube recommendations and I listed down a few:

1) FujiFlim XF10
2) FujiFlim XT100
3) Canon EOS M50
4) Ricoh GR3 (coming out soon),

Here are my requirements:

1) APS-C Sensor size.

1) Pocket-able size (I know, options 2 and 3 are not), but would be good for travelling.

2) General "All in one" camera that can be used in all situations, a "balanced" camera. I know, most would say "there is no such thing as an all in one camera or lens". But for a beginner who wants to shoot random stuff, what do you recommend? I like to take photos of landscape, animals, scenery, "street photography", plants etc

3) Should I invest more in a camera with interchangeable lens, or should i get a camera that has a fixed lens?

What if I buy the fixed lens point and shoot, and I want to change lens in future to further my photography hobby? What If I spend more and get a camera with interchangeable lens, and end up sticking to the same kit lens forever? Any experts here to chime in their opinions?

Read here first and see if it helps to answer some of your queries: https://www.dpreview.com/buying-guides

This below, how to advise you ? This is something ONLY YOU can decide, wherther you want to jump straight to system cameras or start with simple cameras first. When I started this hobby, I started with PnS first and moving to M43 after learning the basics.

" What if I buy the fixed lens point and shoot, and I want to change lens in future to further my photography hobby? What If I spend more and get a camera with interchangeable lens, and end up sticking to the same kit lens forever? Any experts here to chime in their opinions? "

Nakedtoes 23-01-2019 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by xonix (Post 118780295)
Read here first and see if it helps to answer some of your queries: https://www.dpreview.com/buying-guides

This below, how to advise you ? This is something ONLY YOU can decide, wherther you want to jump straight to system cameras or start with simple cameras first. When I started this hobby, I started with PnS first and moving to M43 after learning the basics.

" What if I buy the fixed lens point and shoot, and I want to change lens in future to further my photography hobby? What If I spend more and get a camera with interchangeable lens, and end up sticking to the same kit lens forever? Any experts here to chime in their opinions? "

That's why I said straight jump to dslr.. Once u master dslr.. What mirrorless, what pns and wat camera phone is going to be chicken feet to u. U will know how to take better and wat u want effects.

cpuer 23-01-2019 07:58 AM

I recommend GR III :D

Used GRD 3 & GR. Love them to death. But all 2 were short lived.:(

Now looking forward for the GR III to come out so that I can retire my X100F(if I can convince wife on why I need "GR III" when I have an X100F). I always use an fixed lens compact, X100F is the biggest & heaviest cam I ever own. I really missed the small and pocket friendly size of GRs.

Here's one sample gallery shot on GR

https://www.flickr.com/gp/linuxera/RRqSSx

xonix 24-01-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cpuer (Post 118781658)
I recommend GR III :D

Used GRD 3 & GR. Love them to death. But all 2 were short lived.:(

Now looking forward for the GR III to come out so that I can retire my X100F(if I can convince wife on why I need "GR III" when I have an X100F). I always use an fixed lens compact, X100F is the biggest & heaviest cam I ever own. I really missed the small and pocket friendly size of GRs.

Here's one sample gallery shot on GR

https://www.flickr.com/gp/linuxera/RRqSSx

How much is the GR III going for now ? If price similar to LX100 Mark II, my recommendation would actually go to the panasonic despite M43 sensor.

fongwk8 24-01-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nakedtoes (Post 118779715)
Mirror less and phone due to the size u dun have that control like exposure lock.. Types of focusing, types of metering, different wb control, iso control, remote flash control etc.. There are more in a full fledge dslr camera compare to most mirrorless cam.

Don't like that say leh... Sony APS-C and full frame mirrorless all have the same controls as DSLR one

chiaRH 24-01-2019 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakedtoes (Post 118779715)
Mirror less and phone due to the size u dun have that control like exposure lock.. Types of focusing, types of metering, different wb control, iso control, remote flash control etc.. There are more in a full fledge dslr camera compare to most mirrorless cam.

I have a LG G4 from 2015 it's not even a real camera, yet its camera app has all the things you mentioned above except remote flash.
https://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/...amera-mode.jpg

these days the only thing a DSLR has that nothing else have, is a mirror on the inside.


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