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Old 23-04-2018, 03:07 PM   #16
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I don't understand what you are trying to express.

For part time NUS BTech course, they needs applicants to have at least 2 years of full-time work experience apart from polytechnic diploma. For full time NUS BEng, they only needs applicants to have good GPA results from polytechnic diploma and do not needs any year of full-time work experience.

What is 'skill future'? Do you mean Singapore Workforce Skills Qualifications (WSQ)?

TED only have 3 courses namely Culinary Arts, Automotive Engineering and Machine Technology but SIM GE do not have any relevant courses. I don't think TED is recognize by SUSS (Used to known as UniSIM). So what courses did TED graduates take up in 'SIM'?

For private schools, most likely you can enter as long as you have money. So TED don't really play an important part for entering distance learning degree courses in private schools.
What is 'skill future'? Do you mean Singapore Workforce Skills Qualifications (WSQ)? - Yes? If you are unsure please go to the website and check. If you check properly they have this word 'or its equivalent' so is not just polytechnic diploma. 'Polytechnic Diploma in a relevant field of Engineering or equivalent local / foreign qualifications.Any evidence of additional post-diploma academic preparation, including the advanced diploma, specialist diploma and SAT I Test, will be advantageous

Graduates pursue finance course under the SIM courses. This is because they have studied business communications and management for their module.

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Old 23-04-2018, 03:19 PM   #17
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Cause ITE partnership with Institut Paul Bocuse (French culinary school) for Culinary Arts and Carl Benz Schule in Gaggenau, Germany [but certificate awarded by Ministry of Education, Youth & Sports (MEYS), Baden-Wϋrttemberg, Germany] for Automotive Engineering and Machine Technology.

From my understanding for TED, internship (for experience) is a MUST before you can graduate with certificate from ITE. So in a way, it is like you pass internship mean 2 certificate and if you fail mean no certificate at all.
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relevant Experience accumulated during the Nitec and higher nitec is also recognized. But experience can be also gained as they enter the workforce before they pursue TED or after.
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If you are talking about WSQ, all courses are useless and not recognized by employer expect for government regulation like training, security, safety & etc. So no point taking them.

If anyone can enter a business related degree like finance, it is because f their Diploma in any major (cause business major does not required you to have any foundation unless engineering). So a single module like 'business communications and management' does not have that power to do so.

For SIM GE, I don't think TED meet the Entry Requirements. Maybe if you top up SIM Preparatory Course, SIM GE will accept you for their degree courses.

What is 'skill future'? Do you mean Singapore Workforce Skills Qualifications (WSQ)? - Yes? If you are unsure please go to the website and check. If you check properly they have this word 'or its equivalent' so is not just polytechnic diploma. 'Polytechnic Diploma in a relevant field of Engineering or equivalent local / foreign qualifications.Any evidence of additional post-diploma academic preparation, including the advanced diploma, specialist diploma and SAT I Test, will be advantageous

Graduates pursue finance course under the SIM courses. This is because they have studied business communications and management for their module.
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Old 23-04-2018, 07:29 PM   #19
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Don't think ITE will just gain you an module exemption even if you have experience since it is an importance module consist of 1.5 years duration of the full course and how to give you a grading if you are exemption?


Last time, my work colleague with relevant experience want to study part time Nitec in Security Technology but cannot get in without 'security company sponsor' cause 1 of the module is industrial attachment.


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relevant Experience accumulated during the Nitec and higher nitec is also recognized. But experience can be also gained as they enter the workforce before they pursue TED or after.
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Old 23-04-2018, 07:42 PM   #20
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Don't think ITE will just gain you an module exemption even if you have experience since it is an importance module consist of 1.5 years duration of the full course and how to give you a grading if you are exemption?


Last time, my work colleague with relevant experience want to study part time Nitec in Security Technology but cannot get in without 'security company sponsor' cause 1 of the module is industrial attachment.
You isn’t supposed to be exempted in any module for diploma. Even automotive technology students have to repeat module again. Like a refresher or a new topic for a person like me.

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If you are talking about WSQ, all courses are useless and not recognized by employer expect for government regulation like training, security, safety & etc. So no point taking them.

If anyone can enter a business related degree like finance, it is because f their Diploma in any major (cause business major does not required you to have any foundation unless engineering). So a single module like 'business communications and management' does not have that power to do so.

For SIM GE, I don't think TED meet the Entry Requirements. Maybe if you top up SIM Preparatory Course, SIM GE will accept you for their degree courses.
I believe so and was uninformed and unsure about this. One of the lecturers previously was graduated from SIM long time ago.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:02 PM   #22
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Can i ask a question?
I am in a intern helpdesk company for 1 month already,
If i were to get kick out of intern company my grade will get C but will i have to get another internship company to finish up my 2 and a half month? Or thats the end of my internship?
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You have internship through school. As a student, you should know when your start and end date for internship. Even if you don't know, you can check with school officer in charge of your internship.

You do not even give us important information like your school name and course, how do we even advice you? If you care kick out of intern company, you should get a fail grade, how did you even come out with a grade C? If you fail an internship, most likely you needs to wait for the next available lot which could be next semester or additional semester just for this internship module (should be after your peer graduated). However because you still have '2.5 months and maybe semester break, it is possible for school to help you link up with another company for internship.


Can i ask a question?
I am in a intern helpdesk company for 1 month already,
If i were to get kick out of intern company my grade will get C but will i have to get another internship company to finish up my 2 and a half month? Or thats the end of my internship?
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IM nw in ITE internships.
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If you are talking about WSQ, all courses are useless and not recognized by employer expect for government regulation like training, security, safety & etc. So no point taking them.

If anyone can enter a business related degree like finance, it is because f their Diploma in any major (cause business major does not required you to have any foundation unless engineering). So a single module like 'business communications and management' does not have that power to do so.

For SIM GE, I don't think TED meet the Entry Requirements. Maybe if you top up SIM Preparatory Course, SIM GE will accept you for their degree courses.
not true, I have a WSQ diploma and is recognized by many large retail organizations in Singapore, they even sponsored trainees for studies, even SUSS and SimGE recognized it.
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not true, I have a WSQ diploma and is recognized by many large retail organizations in Singapore, they even sponsored trainees for studies, even SUSS and SimGE recognized it.
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:00 PM   #27
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Is there a pay or career advancement different for Diploma holder between Polytechnic, PEIs and WSQ in those 'large retail organizations' in Singapore?

Is there a pay or career advancement different between Diploma or non-Diploma holder (GCE A/O/N, PSLE, no formal qualification) between those 'large retail organizations' in Singapore?

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Under the MOU, UniSIM (now known as SUSS) recognises and accepts the Workforce Skills Qualification (WSQ) Diploma in Retail Management awarded by the Singapore Institute of Retail Studies as an alternative entry qualification to UniSIM's BSc in Marketing programme*. Only that 1 WSQ course is recognized by SUSS for their 1 degree course. And if they are a lot of Polytechnic Diploma applicants, you think SUSS will consider WSQ Diploma applicants (cause university have to take into consider if appliants will be able to graduate from degree course if they offer them a place and I can tell you that WSQ is crap and not competent especially when it come with written exams compare to Polytechnic Diploma holder)?

SIMGE is a PEI and it up to them to convince their partner university whether they want to recognize it or not. For example, some universities in Australia do take in mature students (25 year old and above with working experience) without any qualification. It is just that some PEIs want to earn money by asking students to apply their PEI Diploma in order to allow them study their degree courses.

Do you even know why companies sponsored trainees for WSQ studies in the first place? Cause organizations can claim from Government scheme like PIC for locals, let their foreign workers upgrade to “Basic-Skilled” to “Higher-Skilled” to extend their 'Maximum period of employment' and lesser the cost of 'levy' and etc. WSQ is the shortest duration for approved courses and allow in-house trainer and assessor which mean 100% 'sure pass'.

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I also work in retail industry before and I can tell you that they look at experience rather than qualification. Some boss just want to feel great that they have graduate (Degree & sometime Diploma too) under them which is the reason why they look at qualification. As for where one graduate, it really does not matter.


not true, I have a WSQ diploma and is recognized by many large retail organizations in Singapore, they even sponsored trainees for studies, even SUSS and SimGE recognized it.
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Is there a pay or career advancement different for Diploma holder between Polytechnic, PEIs and WSQ in those 'large retail organizations' in Singapore?

Between Poly and WSQ grads, salary and advancement wise, both are same.

Is there a pay or career advancement different between Diploma or non-Diploma holder (GCE A/O/N, PSLE, no formal qualification) between those 'large retail organizations' in Singapore?

Yes.

Under the MOU, UniSIM (now known as SUSS) recognises and accepts the Workforce Skills Qualification (WSQ) Diploma in Retail Management awarded by the Singapore Institute of Retail Studies as an alternative entry qualification to UniSIM's BSc in Marketing programme*. Only that 1 WSQ course is recognized by SUSS for their 1 degree course. And if they are a lot of Polytechnic Diploma applicants, you think SUSS will consider WSQ Diploma applicants (cause university have to take into consider if appliants will be able to graduate from degree course if they offer them a place and I can tell you that WSQ is crap and not competent especially when it come with written exams compare to Polytechnic Diploma holder)?

Just accept the fact that SUSS has already accepted WSQ grads into their marketing course since 2007, 11 years ago.

SIMGE is a PEI and it up to them to convince their partner university whether they want to recognize it or not. For example, some universities in Australia do take in mature students (25 year old and above with working experience) without any qualification. It is just that some PEIs want to earn money by asking students to apply their PEI Diploma in order to allow them study their degree courses.

SIMGE don't have to convince Sterling UK, WSQ grads are already accepted into their retail management course.

Do you even know why companies sponsored trainees for WSQ studies in the first place? Cause organizations can claim from Government scheme like PIC for locals, let their foreign workers upgrade to “Basic-Skilled” to “Higher-Skilled” to extend their 'Maximum period of employment' and lesser the cost of 'levy' and etc. WSQ is the shortest duration for approved courses and allow in-house trainer and assessor which mean 100% 'sure pass'.

For my class all are SINGAPOREANS

I also work in retail industry before and I can tell you that they look at experience rather than qualification. Some boss just want to feel great that they have graduate (Degree & sometime Diploma too) under them which is the reason why they look at qualification. As for where one graduate, it really does not matter.

How long was that? 10 years ago? The landscape already changed, keep up with the latest news.
WSQ isn't as bad as you perceived, don't be too negative.

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Between Poly and WSQ grads, salary and advancement wise, both are same.

Yes.
Like that WSQ does not help at all.

Just accept the fact that SUSS has already accepted WSQ grads into their marketing course since 2007, 11 years ago.
That time WSQ sign with UniSIM, so priority for UniSIM will focus on applicants' experience rather than qualification since does not involve much on government subsidies. Now they have convert to SUSS, priority will focus a lot more on qualification since they needs to account for the increase of government subsidies.

SIMGE don't have to convince Sterling UK, WSQ grads are already accepted into their retail management course.
Actually they did try hard to convince University of Stirling to have Credit exemptions for WSQ diploma graduate.

http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/As...08-298447.html

For my class all are SINGAPOREANS
For which courses? WSQ Diploma in Retail Management?

Do you think 'Enhanced Training Support for SMEs' is given free by government? Do you know that companies pay money to government for training regardless if their employees go for courses? Courses from Polytechnics / ITE take too long for employees to graduate in order to claim government scheme which is the reason why they are sending employees to WSQ courses.

How long was that? 10 years ago? The landscape already changed, keep up with the latest news.
Actually more than 10 years ago. Have network like friends still in retail industry and I do recruit for retail positions too.

Nothing changes much on retail operation over all these years cause business owner cannot afford to upgrade technology. At retail management point of view, operation cost (labor, rental, etc) are increasing but lesser sale revenue cause all the shopper can buy things online by themselves or even can become your direct or indirect competitor. But end day, there are always consumer behavior for shopper who want to have a 'real feeling from touching' before buying their stuffs which business opportunity is still there but not sure about the future in my children time.

WSQ isn't as bad as you perceived, don't be too negative.
Still the same thing, only courses that have regulation for industry needs like training, security, safety and etc are useful.
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