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Old 13-07-2018, 09:39 AM   #31
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That sounds very dreamy and i have no doubt some of the si ginnas will take up the offer but... what happen to those that dun?
$400 GST vouchers to shoot those that dun obey general orders?
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:40 AM   #32
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Spineless Sinkie has proved times and again, and will again. Sinkie is good at car camera reporting, keyboard warriror fighting and stomping any damn sheep they unhappy about, BUT never actual address or confront the problem that annoy them.

That is Sinkie system.
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:41 AM   #33
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why care....

70% of the ministers are kicking the bucket soon, new 4G taking over...
The *Pawning* process continues....
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:42 AM   #34
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Allow me to ask you something. In the event the army is really mobilized in order suppress riot crowds for whatsoever reason against sinkies, what do you think the majority of the army will be doing when the order is given to shoot dissenters?
you dont know stinkies just follow order? all trained from young to obey authorities, isn't the answer obvious?
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:44 AM   #35
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yep... really foolish

we have AHTC saga ongoing.. when time is ripe, stir it again.

Then we have CSJ saga of the last millenium.. that one also can use it to stir. With this 2 saga, PAP sure win
50% women charter plus CECA and JHK more than enough to pwn sinkies.
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:44 AM   #36
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Poor lanpa at its best..
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:45 AM   #37
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slowly eroding the confidence level with the PAP is a good start
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:47 AM   #38
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slowly eroding the confidence level with the PAP is a good start
New CECA and old time JHK exceeded the erosion, reaching to 80% soon.
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:47 AM   #39
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HA HA HA

Najib was Supremely Confident BN Will Win..... then guess what?
Source: http://malaysiandigest.com/features/...-will-win.html


One of the key factor that BN got voted out was bcos of fighting against Crony capitalism.
M'sia ranked no. 2, Spore ranked no. 4 .... very close.

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Old 13-07-2018, 09:48 AM   #40
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'Foolish mistake' to think PAP will suffer the same fate as Malaysia's former government : Ho Kwon Ping

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SINGAPORE, July 13 — While there are “unnervingly close parallels” between Singapore and Malaysia, it would be a “foolish mistake” to share Malaysian Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s recent conclusion that Singaporeans — like the Malaysians — “must be tired of their government”, said Banyan Tree executive chairman Ho Kwon Ping yesterday.

Ho, who was speaking on “Singapore Politics and Business in an Age of Disruption” at an OCBC forum, said that a “huge and critical difference” between both countries is the “egregiously blatant” corruption of the previous Malaysian government, which resulted in the toppling of the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) party.



Weeks after the Pakatan Harapan (PH) alliance led by Dr Mahathir clinched a historic victory in Malaysia’s general election on May 9, he told the Financial Times that PH’s win would have a spillover effect on its neighbour.

“I think the people of Singapore, like the people in Malaysia, must be tired of having the same government, the same party since independence,” he said in the interview.

But Ho noted that the similarities between both nations, including the fact that Singapore’s ruling People’s Action Party (PAP) and Malaysia’s BN are founding parties in their countries, did not mean that the former would suffer the same fate.

Singapore and its people, he said, would be “drawing the wrong lessons if we look at Malaysia and think that the fall of the PAP is imminent for whatever reasons that are happening across the Causeway.”

“It is not the absence of full democratic institutions, it is not the absence of full human rights, or the putting down of dissent, nor the presence of paternalistic governance which brings down a government, or has brought down the Malaysian government,” said Ho at the OCBC Global Treasury Economic and Business Forum held at The Ritz-Carlton, Millenia.

“It is the unbridled, egregiously blatant and massively enormous corruption of the Najib (Malaysia’s former premier) government which brought him down.”

However, he warned of the possibility that the PAP might no longer be in power in the future, though this might only happen in the next 20 to 30 years.

Singapore is still helmed largely by its second generation of leaders, said Ho, with the memories of its founding fathers and principles of former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, still “clearly remembered and largely perpetuated” by current leaders.

He noted that historically, there is a trend where the passion and integrity of post-independence founding parties persist for about three generations. Then, these parties would be in a rocky situation, as “hubris sets in and the rot begins”.

Contrary to Western beliefs, the desire for full democratic institutions will not cause the PAP’s downfall, he said. Instead, that may only happen if there is massive corruption among Singapore’s leaders.

“The Asian political culture has shown, that it is not the presence of democratic institutions, but it is the presence of good governance which is most critical,” said Ho, who was a journalist before becoming a hotelier.

“There’s a high degree of tolerance within Asian countries for even incompetence. But there is very little intolerance for totally selfish regimes which only perpetuate their own well-being.”

Singapore does not tolerate corruption, but that could change if the PAP allows nepotism and cronyism to set in, said Ho.

The PAP has to be careful not to create “quasi cronyism amongst cliques of elites” as it draws people from immediate circles of friends, the military or administrative service, he said.

He added: “There must be an inflow of totally fresh new blood into the political system if we are to avoid the futures that we do not wish to have.”

Complacency, such as the party applying the “same old formulas” to solve future problems, as well as the lack of internal competition within the party, could also be detrimental to the PAP, said Ho.

While he acknowledged that having factions within the party “is not necessarily bad” as it induces some competition, it should not reach a point where there is a huge split within the party as that could spell disaster — a fate suffered by Malaysia’s BN that resulted in its loss.

Singapore’s political leadership is aware that the “jibes made against us and our political system” by the Malaysians “may not be applicable in totality”, said Ho, but it knows there are still some lessons to be learnt.

Those are, he added, “the lessons about hubris, the lessons about keeping close touch with the population, the lessons about keeping scrupulously clean and avoiding any possibility of corruption to infect the political system”. — TODAY



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Najib no CECA, we have CECA, see the difference?
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:50 AM   #42
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Ho too confident that he forget that the only 2 things certain in life is death and taxes?
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Najib no CECA, we have CECA, see the difference?
never forget about the phantom bangala workers for BN?
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Old 13-07-2018, 09:52 AM   #44
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As funding dries up, Umno cybertroopers fade away or switch sides


KUALA LUMPUR - They used to earn tens of thousands a month, with some pulling in several million ringgit to slander Pakatan Harapan (PH) and trumpet the virtues of Barisan Nasional (BN).

But on May 9‎ - right after the historic general election which saw BN losing power, the gravy train stopped.‎

Now, the keyboards of the legion of cybertroopers who were on the payroll of United Malays National Organisation (Umno) - the lynchpin party of BN - are largely untouched, after their political paymasters were thrown out of Putrajaya.

It is learnt that a number of these online activists were paid by the Special Affairs Department (Jasa) under the Prime Minister’s Office. Jasa has since been disbanded by the PH government.

Others were paid by businessmen connected to former Malaysian prime minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak or other Umno leaders.

With their “masters” on the ropes, some of these armchair warriors are now attempting to cosy up to PH.

“Now, our coordinators have all gone missing. There has been no word from the headquarters since GE14. Some have gone to PH, some (of us), we were just freelancers during the elections,” one Umno online activist, who requested anonymity, told The Malaysian Insight.

“But, there are still some who are being paid by their divisions or branches, or by a senior leader with deep pockets.”

Ever since social media became a powerful medium of information, Umno has aggressively gone out to court an army of cybertroopers.

In 2012, the party formally organised these online activists under its information technology bureau and new media unit. The bureau was headed by Pontian Member of Parliament Ahmad Maslan. BN deputy strategic communications director Eric See-To also oversaw the social media operatives.

Another big name tied to the online activists was Mr Tun Faisal Ismail Aziz, who was on Jasa’s panel of experts.

The cybertroopers' mission was to explain BN’s policies, counter PH's criticism and wage psychological warfare through the internet.

On November 4, Umno’s IT bureau held its biggest rally of cybertroopers at the Putra World Trade Centre in Kuala Lumpur, which attracted more than 3,500 people.

Although the party has never acknowledged paying these online activists, it is an open secret that they were amply compensated.

One cybertrooper said they were grouped into informal teams with coordinators who determined the issues or trends they wrote about, which were decided by senior Umno leaders.

The activist said they were paid according to a scale set by the IT bureau.

“Umno cybertroopers have gotten tens, and even hundreds, of thousands,” said former party blogger Syarul Ema Rena Abu Samah, also known as Ratu Naga, in an interview with Malay daily Sinar Harian.

“There are some who received millions. One received RM3 million for a project related to the elections,” said Ms Syarul Ema Rena, who switched to PH in 2014.

The payment depended on each activist’s specialty, with bloggers and website owners paid a different amount than a social media provocateur.

Now that the cash flow has stopped, Umno’s online mercenaries are giving up whatever territory they managed to carve out when the gravy train was going full steam ahead. THE MALAYSIAN INSIGHT

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Old 13-07-2018, 09:52 AM   #45
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Can sammarai in 2 words scumgu?

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He's saying the fall of PAP is not imminent (about to happen).

To a certain extent, I agrees. But the fall of PAP is inevitable - ust a matter of time.
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