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Old 15-06-2018, 03:09 PM   #1
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Isit true that last time emperor got 微服出巡???

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Old 15-06-2018, 03:12 PM   #2
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i think only 2 emperors did that...both went to visit prostitutes
Qing dysnasty one got small pox then died
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i think only 2 emperors did that...both went to visit prostitutes
Qing dysnasty one got small pox then died
Lol palace gt so many still need go whore?

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Old 15-06-2018, 03:19 PM   #4
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Lol palace gt so many still need go whore?

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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/明武宗南巡之爭
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/同治帝

同治十三年十月己亥,因同治帝有病,命李鸿藻代阅奏章。十一月,命恭亲王奕訢处理批答清文摺件。己酉,命内外奏折呈两宫太后披览。十二月初五日(1875年1月12日),同治帝崩於皇宮養心殿,年仅18岁,为清朝寿命最短的皇帝。同治无后,慈禧即挑出咸丰之弟奕譞之子载湉入嗣大宗为帝,是为德宗(光绪帝)。光绪帝亦无子而逝,以溥仪继承帝位,兼祧两房。

據正史記載,同治帝是死於天花。相同紀錄亦出現於《翁同龢日記》,說同治帝得了天花,導致毒熱內陷,最終“走馬牙疳”而死。不過,在民間傳说同治卻是死于梅毒。

或说同治帝婚后獨宿乾清宮,在內監和寵臣載澂引導下經常微服私行,常到崇文門外的酒肆、戲館及花巷尋花問柳。野史記載:“伶人小六如、春眉,娼小鳳輩,皆邀幸。”又有人推薦他一些黃色小說,“小說淫詞,祕戲圖冊,帝益沉迷”[2]。

據《清宮遺聞》記載,“同治到私娼處,致染梅毒”。而《清朝野史大观》卷一《清宫遗闻》中说:“孝哲后,崇绮之女,端庄贞静,美而有德,帝甚爱之,以格于慈禧之威,不能相款洽,慈禧又强其爱所不爱之妃(指凤秀之女淑慎皇贵妃),帝遂于家庭无乐趣矣,乃出而纵淫,……专觅内城之私卖淫者取乐焉。……久之毒发,始犹不觉,继而见于面,盎于背。”“太医知为淫毒,而不敢言,遂以治痘药治之,不效”。1923年蕭一山的《清代通史》再三強調了同治帝是死於梅毒。台灣作家高陽长篇巨著《慈禧全传》认定是梅毒[3]。御醫李德立的曾孫李鎮和李志綏分別撰文稱,祖上口傳秘聞,同治帝死于梅毒。慈禧聽到李德立的診斷結果之後,強迫他宣布是天花。李鎮表示“同治梅毒溃烂后,流脓不止,奇臭难闻,曾祖父(李德立)每日必须亲自为他清洗敷药,一个多月来受到强烈恶臭刺激,从此失去了嗅觉”[4]。也有人認為是先患天花未癒而又染上梅毒,或先患梅毒而又染上天花,二疾並發而亡[5]。
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Old 15-06-2018, 04:02 PM   #5
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his 6 visits jiang nan is official parade lar different
微服出巡 is secret sneak out in plain clothes
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unlikely, it's more likely these stories were made up as a marketing gimmick to sell things.
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Lol palace gt so many still need go whore?

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have. but the area ish not really the peasant quarters.

ppl have to understand the 'capital-imperial city-forbidden palace' structure in order to understand this concept. going by foot or even by 4 persons carried sedan chair, the emperor cant move really far from the forbidden city.
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/明武宗南巡之爭
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/同治帝

同治十三年十月己亥,因同治帝有病,命李鸿藻代阅奏章。十一月,命恭亲王奕訢处理批答清文摺件。己酉,命内外奏折呈两宫太后披览。十二月初五日(1875年1月12日),同治帝崩於皇宮養心殿,年仅18岁,为清朝寿命最短的皇帝。同治无后,慈禧即挑出咸丰之弟奕譞之子载湉入嗣大宗为帝,是为德宗(光绪帝)。光绪帝亦无子而逝,以溥仪继承帝位,兼祧两房。

據正史記載,同治帝是死於天花。相同紀錄亦出現於《翁同龢日記》,說同治帝得了天花,導致毒熱內陷,最終“走馬牙疳”而死。不過,在民間傳说同治卻是死于梅毒。

或说同治帝婚后獨宿乾清宮,在內監和寵臣載澂引導下經常微服私行,常到崇文門外的酒肆、戲館及花巷尋花問柳。野史記載:“伶人小六如、春眉,娼小鳳輩,皆邀幸。”又有人推薦他一些黃色小說,“小說淫詞,祕戲圖冊,帝益沉迷”[2]。

據《清宮遺聞》記載,“同治到私娼處,致染梅毒”。而《清朝野史大观》卷一《清宫遗闻》中说:“孝哲后,崇绮之女,端庄贞静,美而有德,帝甚爱之,以格于慈禧之威,不能相款洽,慈禧又强其爱所不爱之妃(指凤秀之女淑慎皇贵妃),帝遂于家庭无乐趣矣,乃出而纵淫,……专觅内城之私卖淫者取乐焉。……久之毒发,始犹不觉,继而见于面,盎于背。”“太医知为淫毒,而不敢言,遂以治痘药治之,不效”。1923年蕭一山的《清代通史》再三強調了同治帝是死於梅毒。台灣作家高陽长篇巨著《慈禧全传》认定是梅毒[3]。御醫李德立的曾孫李鎮和李志綏分別撰文稱,祖上口傳秘聞,同治帝死于梅毒。慈禧聽到李德立的診斷結果之後,強迫他宣布是天花。李鎮表示“同治梅毒溃烂后,流脓不止,奇臭难闻,曾祖父(李德立)每日必须亲自为他清洗敷药,一个多月来受到强烈恶臭刺激,从此失去了嗅觉”[4]。也有人認為是先患天花未癒而又染上梅毒,或先患梅毒而又染上天花,二疾並發而亡[5]。
that part ish basically tok cok. syphilis dun kill the adult patient within weeks or months. most if not all STDs are slow developing, taking yrs to reach tertiary stage, much longer to cause death. syphilis took 2-3 mths to dev the primary symptoms, and a lot of ppl dun even have primary symptoms when they reached secondary stage many mths later.

tongzhi died just a couple of mths after his first alleged visit to the imperial city.

during qing dynasty becos of the hatred towards the manchurians, tons of peasant stories were created based on ignorance.
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that part ish basically tok cok. syphilis dun kill the adult patient within weeks or months. most if not all STDs are slow developing, taking yrs to reach tertiary stage, much longer to cause death. syphilis took 2-3 mths to dev the primary symptoms, and a lot of ppl dun even have primary symptoms when they reached secondary stage many mths later.

tongzhi died just a couple of mths after his first alleged visit to the imperial city.

during qing dynasty becos of the hatred towards the manchurians, tons of peasant stories were created based on ignorance.
small pox lar,contracted from social contacts in Beijing lor
doesn't have to be STD
He might had syphilis prior to that too but not lethal cause.
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that part ish basically tok cok. syphilis dun kill the adult patient within weeks or months. most if not all STDs are slow developing, taking yrs to reach tertiary stage, much longer to cause death. syphilis took 2-3 mths to dev the primary symptoms, and a lot of ppl dun even have primary symptoms when they reached secondary stage many mths later.

tongzhi died just a couple of mths after his first alleged visit to the imperial city.

during qing dynasty becos of the hatred towards the manchurians, tons of peasant stories were created based on ignorance.
The ming dynasty one is more epic.

This kind of emperor usually in history is tio mutinied by own Kai kar or worse, overthrow by the people.
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