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Old 08-06-2015, 02:03 PM   #1531
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There is a very famous temple in Thailand by the name Wat Pak Nam.

black magic master think is referring to lersi.
I see. So this Tua is primarily focussed in Black Magic etc? Invincible Black Magic + Black Magic Master

Please do not be mistaken, I mean if they are the specialist in this field, it's not a bad option for devotees.
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Old 08-06-2015, 02:09 PM   #1532
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not sure and don't know cos see already very confusing.
I see. So this Tua is primarily focussed in Black Magic etc? Invincible Black Magic + Black Magic Master

Please do not be mistaken, I mean if they are the specialist in this field, it's not a bad option for devotees.

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Old 08-06-2015, 06:30 PM   #1533
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hi nacht.. got a qns want to hear from you.

1) Is it possible to know after 100days, where and how our deceased relatives are? Like reincarnation etc.

2) Any sutras or chants we can recite for them in the afterlife?
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Old 08-06-2015, 06:40 PM   #1534
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Woah just now I dreamt of catching ghost and very difficult to catch. Then spawn infront of the altar and saw mini pomegranate leaves on my old house altar incense pot...So I beat the **** out of the ghost after that...zzzz...
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:44 PM   #1535
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Nacht, do you have any idea when did burning of incense, joss sticks etc start? What did they burn in the past? Did they just throw the paper? What did they use to coat the gold and silver on paper?
The use of incense paper and incense sticks has definitely been around for centuries, Paul.

I wouldn't be able to tell you what the gold and silver colouring on today's incense paper is made from, however, let alone that on incense paper from ages back.
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hi nacht.. got a qns want to hear from you.

1) Is it possible to know after 100days, where and how our deceased relatives are? Like reincarnation etc.

2) Any sutras or chants we can recite for them in the afterlife?
Hi Baban,

1. Nobody reincarnates so quickly. The usually cited period of time is decades to centuries.

2. Sutras or chants are more a Buddhist thing; with Chinese folk religion, supporting your deceased relatives via the provision of food and other offerings suffices, along with the occasional salvation ritual if necessary. Salvation rituals are not something one can perform on their own; these are usually done under direct guidance by a medium (usually channelling a Hell being).

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Old 08-06-2015, 11:16 PM   #1537
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Regarding the joss paper thing, I did once hear a story which I thought was quite interesting, details are fuzzy since its been so long now, but basically, back in one of the Chinese dynasties, there was this scholar who went to the capital to take his exams soon after he got married. He wasn't from a rich family and as was his wife. He failed his exams and came home to be a paper maker/merchant. But the quality of his paper was so bad that no one was buying, so his ingenious wife hatched a plan, she 'died' and he mourned her for 7 days, after which he started burning his papers to keep warm in the cold nights as he didn't have money to buy firewood. After the 7th day, his wife miraculously came back to life and told a story where she bought her way back to the living through the use of joss paper, as it was the currency down there, and that having money to spend meant things could be a little easier. After the whole village heard her story the paper maker/merchant's stocks were sold out almost instantly, and continued into a ritual.

Just a story I heard a long time ago :/
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Old 09-06-2015, 08:04 AM   #1538
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Taken from pak nam sintua fb. Even the tua name also copied thai temple.
Look jin evil. Majiam kumantung with many hands Trying to mimic phra phom.
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Just a story I heard a long time ago :/
Interesting. What about the burning of joss sticks and candles? I remember watching some shows in the past where they throw the paper instead of burning them. Perhaps that's another culture altogether...
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Regarding the joss paper thing, I did once hear a story which I thought was quite interesting, details are fuzzy since its been so long now, but basically, back in one of the Chinese dynasties, there was this scholar who went to the capital to take his exams soon after he got married. He wasn't from a rich family and as was his wife. He failed his exams and came home to be a paper maker/merchant. But the quality of his paper was so bad that no one was buying, so his ingenious wife hatched a plan, she 'died' and he mourned her for 7 days, after which he started burning his papers to keep warm in the cold nights as he didn't have money to buy firewood. After the 7th day, his wife miraculously came back to life and told a story where she bought her way back to the living through the use of joss paper, as it was the currency down there, and that having money to spend meant things could be a little easier. After the whole village heard her story the paper maker/merchant's stocks were sold out almost instantly, and continued into a ritual.

Just a story I heard a long time ago :/
I heard this as well. The version I heard, that guy is 蔡伦's brother. He is lazy thus the paper he made was of low quality. So coincident that kim zua (joss paper) is bad quality paper.

蔡伦 is the person who invented paper.
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Interesting. What about the burning of joss sticks and candles? I remember watching some shows in the past where they throw the paper instead of burning them. Perhaps that's another culture altogether...
The joss sticks we use now is cheap, poisonous and of low quality.

Those expensive and high quality ones are called incense. They smell good (before burning and when it's burn), people in the past use them just as how we use air freshener at home or in cars.

Which is why joss sticks and incense are called 香 because they by right should smell good.
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The joss sticks we use now is cheap, poisonous and of low quality.

Those expensive and high quality ones are called incense. They smell good (before burning and when it's burn), people in the past use them just as how we use air freshener at home or in cars.

Which is why joss sticks and incense are called 香 because they by right should smell good.
I personally can introduce a type of joss sticks that is relatively afforadable but you have to get them in taiwan it's about $13 for a box , 300 + sticks... pure tan xiang no mix perfume n chems according to the seller .
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The joss sticks we use now is cheap, poisonous and of low quality.

Those expensive and high quality ones are called incense. They smell good (before burning and when it's burn), people in the past use them just as how we use air freshener at home or in cars.

Which is why joss sticks and incense are called 香 because they by right should smell good.
Hi Golden_Fox, I buy 一枝香 because of the 梨花 fragrant. It's not exactly cheap, do you know this brand?
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Old 09-06-2015, 11:21 AM   #1544
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I personally can introduce a type of joss sticks that is relatively afforadable but you have to get them in taiwan it's about $13 for a box , 300 + sticks... pure tan xiang no mix perfume n chems according to the seller .
In the past, there is this 麒麟香 that my mother always buys. Comes in a box and all the joss sticks have nice Tan Xiang scent. Are you referring to this? The shop told me this is no longer available now.
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In the past, there is this 麒麟香 that my mother always buys. Comes in a box and all the joss sticks have nice Tan Xiang scent. Are you referring to this? The shop told me this is no longer available now.
no. I bought them when I was in Taiwan , the guy who sold them is a tv artiste
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