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Old 20-03-2018, 07:20 PM   #106
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Yep. I'm awared that whoever we buy from. At the end of the the process SP is the the "middle man" that we still have to approach for any problem.

What i meant was . Besides pricing, Will there be anyone thought of getting from the main 3 genco that been supplying electricity 24/7 since the past 20yrs? Rather than getting from this newly small generating watt companies?
All the gencos pump electricity into the grid pool, managed by SP, regulated by EMA, where the electricity travels god knows. So reliability is depends on our downstream side, such as the transmission cables if they dun get chopped by excavators, or substation malfunctions (also by SP)

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Old 20-03-2018, 07:20 PM   #107
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500wh is about 1000sgd a month. Only crypto miners will use that kinda power. How much more discount we talking about?



I am confused by this. Do u mean 6pm to 12am for peak period?
Off peak is 12am-6pm? Off peak is 18 hours right?
0000hrs to 0559hrs midnight will have 50% discount. 0600-2359 will have 10% discounts.

500kwh is not 1000sgd. It's 100sgd
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:26 PM   #108
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The number sstill not very good. I see here

http://www.reddotpower.com.sg/services/

eQ
DAY 15.98 cents/kWh
NIGHT 14.98 cents/kWh

eQ+
DAY 16.68 cents/kWh
NIGHT 14.98 cents/kWh

They still offer cheaper to businesses and higher to households. So much for competition.
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:28 PM   #109
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0000hrs to 0559hrs midnight will have 50% discount. 0600-2359 will have 10% discounts.

500kwh is not 1000sgd. It's 100sgd
Oh yeah, i meant to say 5000kwh.
So, 18 hours of small discount and 6 hours of huge discount.
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:34 PM   #110
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Oh yeah, i meant to say 5000kwh.
So, 18 hours of small discount and 6 hours of huge discount.
Depends on how you use. During midnight, we would be blasting aircon. Great time for 50%savings. Look at the 50% more than the 10% on normal times.

The 10%is a real good deal rather than no discount
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:40 PM   #111
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If my electricity bill every month is only abt $90, will change in company make a lot of difference?? Which company good ah??
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:43 PM   #112
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wa my monthly is 300+ leh.. at least 40% off.. is alot of savings
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:45 PM   #113
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I checked the past history till that was year 2000 and the cheapest tariff is 15.02 kwh based on oil price US33/ bbl. I think it won't go below that low liao. Cost Below 17. 00 kwh should be quite safe unless u think the oil price will drop
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Depends on how you use. During midnight, we would be blasting aircon. Great time for 50%savings. Look at the 50% more than the 10% on normal times.

The 10%is a real good deal rather than no discount
For me, best 24/7 plan works since I have some crytomining equipment.

wa my monthly is 300+ leh.. at least 40% off.. is alot of savings
How u calculate 40%?

I checked the past history till that was year 2000 and the cheapest tariff is 15.02 kwh based on oil price US33/ bbl. I think it won't go below that low liao. Cost Below 17. 00 kwh should be quite safe unless u think the oil price will drop
We generate almost all our electricity via natural gas, not oil.
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:56 PM   #115
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Yep. I'm awared that whoever we buy from. At the end of the the process SP is the the "middle man" that we still have to approach for any problem.

What i meant was . Besides pricing, Will there be anyone thought of getting from the main 3 genco that been supplying electricity 24/7 since the past 20yrs? Rather than getting from this newly small generating watt companies?
There are 3 options:

1) stick to regulated tarifds aka SP Sevices
2) buy from any of the other 31 retailers
3) buy from wholesale markets.

The 3rd option is seldom considered by anyone other than the biggest consumers. Reason being that the prices vary on a half hourly basis and there is no room for comparison or trying to get bset deal since the only wholesale market dealet is SP Services.

It is also extremely difficult for businesses to accrue
For utility charges whose unit rates are not fixed or determinable in advance..
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:59 PM   #116
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For me, best 24/7 plan works since I have some crytomining equipment.





How u calculate 40%?



We generate almost all our electricity via natural gas, not oil.
When oil price drop. It drop price too. Same as when oil prices go up. EMA pricing of the electricity tariffs is always related to the price of crude oil.
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Old 20-03-2018, 08:05 PM   #117
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When oil price drop. It drop price too. Same as when oil prices go up. EMA pricing of the electricity tariffs is always related to the price of crude oil.
Correction.

We doesn't burn crude oil anymore to generate electricity. Steam turbine was used to generate electricity.

So if oil price is increase or decrease. There won't be any effect on electricity.

And yes in the past. Crude oil were use to burnt to generate electricity.
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Old 20-03-2018, 08:16 PM   #118
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Correction.

We doesn't burn crude oil anymore to generate electricity. Steam turbine was used to generate electricity.

So if oil price is increase or decrease. There won't be any effect on electricity.

And yes in the past. Crude oil were use to burnt to generate electricity.
FYI, we use natural gas which are price tagged to High Sulphur Fuel Oil (crude oil). So yes, oil price still affects electricity price in a really large way.
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Old 20-03-2018, 08:31 PM   #119
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There are 3 options:

1) stick to regulated tarifds aka SP Sevices
2) buy from any of the other 31 retailers
3) buy from wholesale markets.

The 3rd option is seldom considered by anyone other than the biggest consumers. Reason being that the prices vary on a half hourly basis and there is no room for comparison or trying to get bset deal since the only wholesale market dealet is SP Services.

It is also extremely difficult for businesses to accrue
For utility charges whose unit rates are not fixed or determinable in advance..
I think ohm they have a wholesale plan, but they have lots of additional charges.
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Old 20-03-2018, 08:36 PM   #120
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Must compare carefuly not juz price ...those who give bonus for signing up is $$ upfront leh. They give so I take lor
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