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Old 17-04-2018, 02:36 AM   #16
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WRONG!!! What makes PAP salaries affordable? Answer: GST hike. GST tax is like opposite of minimum salary, its a minimum tax cuz everyone pays it as long as you are living, even if you are a baby or retired
Yes but for the poor who spent $1k a month he pay $70 while the rich who spent $10k pays $700. GST is a consumption tax, so the rich still pay more gst taxes.
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Old 17-04-2018, 02:41 AM   #17
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To explain the story, imagine the 10th person being a high ses or expat. If they emigrate or don't come to sg, we will have less revenue and the gov will need to tax more on the low ses in order to cover the cost of running the country.
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Old 17-04-2018, 05:27 AM   #18
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Flawed. Every politician in the world know that raising the middle income group's tax will gain more tax than raising the higher income group simply because there are way more people in middle income group than higher income group.

Your example is base on a flawed logic that every income group has equal numbers of people obviously, not true.

Too bad, not everybody a 3 years old here.
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Old 17-04-2018, 07:41 AM   #19
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Flawed. Every politician in the world know that raising the middle income group's tax will gain more tax than raising the higher income group simply because there are way more people in middle income group than higher income group.

Your example is base on a flawed logic that every income group has equal numbers of people obviously, not true.

Too bad, not everybody a 3 years old here.
Exactly not to mention they will hire accountants to move their money to offshore tax free books.
TS really naive...SIM
You really think those millionaire setup their own private charity is because they kind and generous?
I LOLed at this naivity

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Old 17-04-2018, 07:57 AM   #20
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Its true. The rich pay more in dollars but feel less pain.

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Old 17-04-2018, 08:19 AM   #21
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The beer analogy salah already, its the 5th 6th 7th person paid the most percentage of the salary in taxes... the 8th 9th 10th got tax rebate.

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Old 17-04-2018, 08:24 AM   #22
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I will not go drinking with any buddy who refuses to pay for his share of the beer. Period
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Old 17-04-2018, 08:35 AM   #23
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In reality, rich men don't drink with poor men.
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Old 17-04-2018, 08:52 AM   #24
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salah liao... Rich Man will drink at pubs or clubs with chiobu waitresses, even got nude ones. Poor Man will drink at coffeeshop stare at atb
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Old 17-04-2018, 09:01 AM   #25
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In reality, rich men don't drink with poor men.
In reality, the bar owner would not have given them any discount.
They are going to come back again and again regardless.

What's wrong with making more money ?
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Old 17-04-2018, 09:05 AM   #26
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This story kept coming up from time to time
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Old 17-04-2018, 09:15 AM   #27
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The beer analogy is so seriously flawed - the gap is ridiculous.
Why tax systems are designed in this way in the first place is because the rich can afford taxes.


If the poor earned the same way in the rich, they wouldnt mind everyone splitting the same cost of tbe beers in the first place.

Shìt analogy written to support a Hilary kind of gahment
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Old 17-04-2018, 09:54 AM   #28
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6th man save £1, 7th man save £2, 8th man save £4, ninth man save £4, 10th man save £10.

1+2+4+4+10 = £21

Bartender luigi £1 more when he give £20 discount?

Also hor using a person doesn't fit the analogy because the groups they represent the numbers are very disproportionate.

Like 10th man vs 5th man hor in real life the ratio maybe like 1:10000 or something like that. Need to go singstats to see what the exact proportion is

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Old 17-04-2018, 09:56 AM   #29
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Yes, because medical, basic necessities, education, housing, food (which are the things covered under social welfare), can be compared to beer.
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Old 17-04-2018, 09:57 AM   #30
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Yes but for the poor who spent $1k a month he pay $70 while the rich who spent $10k pays $700. GST is a consumption tax, so the rich still pay more gst taxes.
same logic.

poor who earns 2k a month will left 930 per month after taxes.

rich who earns 20k per month will have 9300.

unless the poor earns more , over time, the rich will earn more and more
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