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Anti_con 01-05-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AhGongGong (Post 63472570)
didi29:
If denailtan is finishing his 2 years without being terminated, I am very sure that his performance is good, therfore he should get all his bonuses. If you have bad working attitude because of the way you were broght up by your parents, that is too bad.

The greatest irrespect u did was.. insulted people's parent.
ahgonggong..did your parent teach u that..wwow.. u are well brought up too :s13:

Anti_con 01-05-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AhGongGong (Post 63472840)
Justice_light:
I do not agree. You must have breached the 2 years contract that you signed when you were desperately looking for a job and then quit the traineeship after taking free training and full salary. This is a form of cheating and MOM will not intervene when the company that you have cheated go after you. Otherwise MOM will become part of the syndicate because of YOU!

You think MOM is as stupid as YOU?
HAHAHA:s12:

Talking about cheating:
1) training 1 month instead of 3 months and 90% funding by taxpayers.?
2) did customers know that most of new drafters are traines and inexperience?
2) did customers pay reasonable price for drafter?
4) are the drafters feel regret after know what happened?

ahgonggong.. are u really a drafter?

Anti_con 01-05-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AhGongGong (Post 63480873)
Hi didi29

I am a diploma holder, may be you are better educated than me! but I am a man of integrity and know how to thanks other who treat me well. The company pay me full salary every month even during training, gave me free training that worth almost $10,000, gave me no cliam medical bonuses, sent me to attend external training that cost them S$2,500 and coach me on the job when ever I encounter difficulty.
I believe that you did enjoyted similar treatment but now, you turn arround and talk cock, said that the company ill treated you. Are you a human being? If you are more educated then me, you must be an educated barbarian.

LMFAO, HAHAHA....:s12:

wait.. full salary u mean taxpayer $$$$. training worth $10000 ( basic autocad and mircostation leh.. cost so much meh.. external training cost $2500?? u mean taxpayer $$$ again. please go and buy mirror and look at yourself.. honest man..

Anti_con 01-05-2012 03:04 PM

What i can said is... those who want to work as cad engineer or drafter. go other coy.. or direct apply for drafter post from empolyers or this coy competitors. like cadskill etc,,,

Wish you alll the best job seeker:s12:

newmanhyde 07-06-2012 02:59 PM

simple
only 7 annual leave
no ows for the 2 year whole contract
video cam in office to spy on you.
use gps system to track sales ppl
ot pay rate is standard which is less than 1.5 your hourly rate
saturday 1/2 day
use wda funding so that they pay peanuts for your training.(if like that i can train myself with wda better)
only focus on the construction industry.(u know nothing about elec,marine,oilngas drafting standard)
have to clock in morning clock in/out lunch time clock out evening(am i in factory?)
in house training must sign additional contract to bind you
put you in useless attachment where u learn nothing during ojt . (see u lucky or not)

there is more , now cant remember the contract

those who think this company is good is either ppl who r retrench, housewife or FT. cause u will see a lot here.

Jimrayfish 25-06-2012 02:30 AM

Thank god I came across this forum by searching in google.

I am a fresh engin grad from NUS and am about to go for an interview tomorrow, but after going through this forum, I changed my mind.

That being said, I find the package too good to be true. I mean...company training you for 2 years for free? Also, why should it take that long to train u just in some simple drafting software. Sounds a little fishy if you ask me.

No offence to anyone who might be supporters of the company or its activities and employment packages.

I would like to hear more feedback from those who have worked with this company though. Please share your experience with us, especially any local engineering grads. Thank you.

Serblime 26-06-2012 03:12 AM

wah nus grad can't find job? zun bo? how's yr gpa? usually undergrads before they grad get job liao... anyways u goin for interview with this coy in this thread?

motohoto0 03-07-2012 11:59 AM

Companies like aceplp market themselves as training providers but it is actually a kind of recruitment agency whereby they enslave workers to them through some kind of one sided contract and force their employees to work for them for a period of time until contract ends. The so-called trainings are mainly provided by themselves and then they will demand payment for these trainings if you try to leave the company.

The problem is, the trainers may also be internally certified, meaning its all a self proclaim system. One of my friends joined the company and is being forced to work there until the contract ends. He said that they did not indicate alot of details in the contract but upon signing, the company will add in the company's set of rules that is way stricter than the contract but by then, employees cannot do anything but get stuck in the company and get constant threats by the management if employees even thought about leaving.

In my opinion, if you google online, there is tons of drafter jobs available in the market, and it does mean that you can only get exposure through aceplp. Its just some brain washing technique the company uses against individual.

Serblime 06-07-2012 05:16 AM

u do not hav to fear abt these threats . hav spoken to lawyers abt this in similar situations. its what stated in yr org contract and employment laws and practises by mom that really matters. so u're not alone in this regard. stand yr grd or be eaten. yr choice.

Synasta 09-07-2012 07:10 PM

Bump!

Anyone else care to share their experience? I was contacted by aceplp for a Trainee CAD Engineer position as a diploma holder. Having gone through the 5 pages here, i don't know what to make of the situation as there are two firmly opposing camps with no middle ground in between.

FerreroForte 23-07-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Synasta (Post 68188009)
Bump!

Anyone else care to share their experience? I was contacted by aceplp for a Trainee CAD Engineer position as a diploma holder. Having gone through the 5 pages here, i don't know what to make of the situation as there are two firmly opposing camps with no middle ground in between.

wad u wan 2 noe? i dun mind sharing... i tink aceplp program is gud 4 netwrking n learning abt engg indstry cuz i got gd exp working in diff coys.. anway it has done well 4 me, i am doing ok!. basically dis is a training program 4 engginers... y not go 4 de interview 2 learn more wif ur eyes wide open?? no one in de world cn force u to do sumting u dun wan & dis is juz an option... if u dun wan den juz reject de offer lor... jz 2 cents worth frm me...

FerreroForte 23-07-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimrayfish (Post 67802918)
Thank god I came across this forum by searching in google.

I am a fresh engin grad from NUS and am about to go for an interview tomorrow, but after going through this forum, I changed my mind.

That being said, I find the package too good to be true. I mean...company training you for 2 years for free? Also, why should it take that long to train u just in some simple drafting software. Sounds a little fishy if you ask me.

No offence to anyone who might be supporters of the company or its activities and employment packages.

I would like to hear more feedback from those who have worked with this company though. Please share your experience with us, especially any local engineering grads. Thank you.

dis an apprenticeship prog.. most learning is on de job... n u can gain real working exp.. dats why it takes longer. employers always ask hw much exp u have b4 they hire u.... dun belief go n search lor.... im working wif many experienced engg and architects and no one will tell u dat they learn drafting over 2 days.. btw i was frm ntu engg..

FerreroForte 23-07-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrayfish (Post 67802918)

That being said, I find the package too good to be true. I mean...company training you for 2 years for free? Also, why should it take that long to train u just in some simple drafting software. Sounds a little fishy if you ask me.

No offence to anyone who might be supporters of the company or its activities and employment packages.

I would like to hear more feedback from those who have worked with this company though. Please share your experience with us, especially any local engineering grads. Thank you.

btw, ur right dat its a gd deal. if u ask me, aceplp got no choice but 2 do so cuz the industry got very few locals qualify 2 do dis jobs. no choice but to train us cuz otherwise got biz oso cannot do. dats y dere r so many FTs in dis industry, n u tink MNC wan 2 bother wif sgpreans who cant be bother? i hear many coys just rotate their talent to sg office or outsource overseas. wad 2 do? though i may be born and bred in sg, i muz say many sgporeans are damn stuckup n lazy. juz look at de posts in dis thread!! :s8: such situations is call "oportunity" n u shuld tk advantage, but dun turn ard n bite de hand tt feed u, lyk some ppl posting here. dis kind sure gots bad karma.

silverx83 24-07-2012 12:40 AM

ehhh any drafters got spare time wanna help me with my UG assignment? use NX7.5 or later

i need to draw 3D model of a customised wheelchair. will pay for your help. PM me :)

cadman 24-07-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SyraLeo (Post 63695607)
well.. ignoring the pointless arguing up there, anyone like to share their experience? what they teach etc. etc.

or if you got some work in your portfolio to show off, maybe post it here?

i'd like to get a gauge on how i'm doing through self learning.

training begin w classroom lesson in autocad and microstation (commonly used in industry) then part-time trainers take over, they are actually also full-time industry professionals in other companys. frm there u learn shortcut, industry standard, common encuonterd issues and prob.

real learning begin outside formal classroom training cos job postings r the best place for you to practice ur skills, pick up exp, build industry network, etc. good exposure. it is difficult to master skills w/o sufficient practice and exp. i go job interviews they will confirm ask hw muich exp u have. also got revit, very impt skill, cos now companys want ppl to do bim drawing.

pity many ppl commented previously do not understand about the concept of aceplp trainig. if u want solid foundation skill for long time career success, consider this. apprenticeship training is common in countries like germany, very rare in sg. this type of model was proven successful for building job skill.


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