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Old 20-12-2018, 08:50 PM   #8836
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They would look to pay him €20million (£18m) annually after increasing an initial offer of €15m (£13.5m). Discussions have taken place since October.

Real are also planning to appoint him on July 1, as that would mean avoiding a €5m (£4.5m) penalty fee to Manchester United.
Discussions with who? JM himself? If so, he already wants to see himself out before his contract is over. So where is his loyalty to the club since October? Is that why we start seeing funny starting line ups, tactics, substitutions etc?
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but thats what having the DoF is about

make sure the manager shortlisted got continuity in terms of style etc

unlike our last 3 appointments. all different
But there is also no guarantee that the DOF will outlast the next manager or any incoming managers in future. He may also walk out and quit if he sees something he doesn't like. Then employ another DOF and start all over again? Difficult
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I would love to see Jose go to Madrid and wreck everything there all over again. But then he did win a league title there and he didn't here. Perhaps Florentino will sign him for only two years to try win la liga
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Everyone knows in Spain, the champion will always either be barca or madrid. Only in odd years u see one different champion.

I would love to see Jose go to Madrid and wreck everything there all over again. But then he did win a league title there and he didn't here. Perhaps Florentino will sign him for only two years to try win la liga
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Bring back memory of United Legend Ole..
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Old 20-12-2018, 09:45 PM   #8841
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Here is a good read on director of football.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/4...linkname=sport
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...sk-man-united/

He said: “You’re 18 yards from goal and you keep f***ing passing it. Shoot! You won’t ever score a goal if you don’t shoot."
kinda agree on this...but no service how to shoot?
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lol

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...verpool-keane/
So the former striker bought the popular video game Football Manager and was glued to his laptop.
lol

Rumours suggested the striker was a childhood supporter of United's arch rivals Liverpool, and in 2016 FourFourTwo put the question to him.
In 2002, when Rio Ferdinand became the most expensive British signing in history when he moved from Leeds to United for £30m, Solskjaer's welcome wasn't so flattering.

Ferdinand said last year: "The most nerve-wracking time [at United] was the first training session. We're playing piggy-in-the-middle-type game and I could hear Ole Gunnar Solskjaer saying, 'How much? Thirty million? What?!'

"I would have expected that from Keano or Butty, but not him."
can he say similar to poggy?
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kinda agree on this...but no service how to shoot?
If u watch solskjaer goals he got quite a number of goals he just pull the trigger...

I believe for him is u try u got a chance to score even it's a half chance

Some striker will only pull trigger in a swee swee position or 1v1 situation
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Wan to see keane 2 footed pogba in training
Tiagong that is also your special move
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Wan to see keane 2 footed pogba in training
Or Vidic also can. Or let Scholes aim his head when he is dabbing.
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kinda agree on this...but no service how to shoot?
18 yards means you are in the penalty box so if you still need service then you kinda fail as a striker. the only time you can't shoot is when the other team park bus with 10 players in the box.
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Discussions with who? JM himself? If so, he already wants to see himself out before his contract is over. So where is his loyalty to the club since October? Is that why we start seeing funny starting line ups, tactics, substitutions etc?
Probably during pre-season he already planned to get sacked. You noticed at Chelsea after he signed a new contract extension the next season he got himself sacked. Early this yr he signed a new contact extension. This season he got himself sacked again.

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If can get the DOF in before or during January, then maybe can start to plot signing players. The manager has to work whoever the DOF brings in right? I don’t know whether this will be a good thing or not. I prefer the manager to sign who he needs to fit his style, that’s why communication and understanding between the two is very important. Cannot quarrel and see each other beh song. I will prefer the DOF to negotiate the selling and behalf on behalf of Ed rather than identifying targets, and also recruiting knowledgeable scouts and overseeing the youth development/academy
Out of 20 clubs in EPL, 15 have DoF. I would say Leicester and Southampton's DoF are doing quite well. I actually would not mind Leicester's Jon Rudkin coming. He was in-charge of bringing Kante and Mahrez to them (Steve Walsh is the scout who "found" these talents, and Vardy). This is the modern format now, because there is only 1 SAF, who can run the jobs of head coach, recruitment, management, all in one, and good at all of those. No more. Some coaches are better head coach than SAF, like JM, but sucks at management, some very good at management but suck at getting results, so they go become technical director, or DoF.

Ideally, DoF share the same visions, ambitions and direction of the club, of the owner. Based on these visions, ambitions and directions, DoF find the suitable head coach. The head coach, when he accepts the job, would have known what the vision, ambition and direction are. So, DoF of clubs like Monaco, Dortmund, will not approach head coach like JM, or ZZ, or Conte because the JM, ZZ, Conte will not accept that kind of direction, that is collecting wonder kids, develop them, sell for profits.

And ideally, DoF and his head coach will sit down to camxiong, what kind of players the HC need, any targets. DoF, together with his team of scouts, analyst, will access if the targets are realistic or not, if there are alternatives. Ideally, HC will accept and adapt to the players that DoF recruited. DoF, in a way, should last longer than the HC, because he is overseeing a long term project, while each HC he hires, just part of the project.

So, to me, the CV of this DoF is much more important than the HC's CV, because DoF is really the most important person of the club, football wise. Think about Juventus, it is Marotta who brought them back to the glory days now. HC will focus on training, tactic, matches, while the rest will be handled by DoF. Many continental HCs prefer this way because they can really focus on football itself, and DoF will hand the football operations.
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there is no start over. new DoF also not come here and change the club philosophy and direction.
But there is also no guarantee that the DOF will outlast the next manager or any incoming managers in future. He may also walk out and quit if he sees something he doesn't like. Then employ another DOF and start all over again? Difficult
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