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Old 03-12-2017, 01:44 PM   #3631
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Hi Gangsterkia, I would like to give a big thank you to you for helping to answer my (very, very noob) questions! You are very knowledgeable and helpful!

I am under 30 so by your explanation, guess I do no need progressive lens. haha.

I recently went to do an eye checkup to order contact lens, and the optometrist told me my current spectacles (14 years already hahaha) is over-powered! and it is not good for my eyes. To be honest my current pair is not comfy judging by the years of usage, the coating is off hence the lens are blur due to scratches. Hence, I want to get a new pair.

Yesterday, I happily bought a pair of spectacles frame at Orchard ION. It weights 9g. The dimension reads: 52-18-140-138 (I do not know how to tell from the numbers, but I finally found something I like!)

The blue light lens they offer are:

Hoya Stellify:
1.55 = $150
1.60 = $210

Zeiss DuraVision:
1.56 = $215
1.60 = $295
1.67 = $375

I didn't agree to do the lens with them but only purchased the frame.

I intend to do the lens in neighbourhood shop, and was quoted the following:

Crizal Prevencia:
1.56 = $170
(not sure what this number is) = $210
1.60 = $230
1.67 = $300

Crizal Eye Zen (they told me this is the latest one, price difference compared to Crizal Prevencia is only $50)
1.56 = $220
(not sure what this number is) = $260
1.60 = $280
1.67 = $350
1.74 = $500

Hoya (not sure which model) (but big price difference than Hoya Stellify as above at ION Orchard)
1.60 = $460
1.67 = $610


My contact lens degree reads:
Right is D = 4.25, CYL = 0.75, Axis = 180
Left is D = 5.25, CYL = 0.75, Axis = 010
I have astigmatism.

Q1) Based on the spectacles frame size above, and my eyes degree, I intend to take Crizal Eye Zen, 1.67 at $350, do you think you can tell if the lens will come out as bulky?

Q2) What would you say about Crizal Eye Zen? (Hoya is sooooo expensive, although I feel like using this brand... trust the Japanese lol, but do not wish to spend over $350 for the lens because what if I need to change spectacles in a few years again)

Q3) As I also do graphic design works (stare at computer a lot), I understand objects will become yellowish color when I see with blue light coating lens. Wonder if people or your customers have express their concerns with colors after wearing it and what would you say or advise to them? Neighbourhood optometrist actually told me to think about it



Hi, Good afternoon.
Is your current pair still clear and comfortable for you? In terms of far/near?

For blue light lenses, as you know by now, it helps to reduce the amount of blue light entering your eyes. Most lens brands now come with them, Hoya-Bluecontrol, Essilor-prevencia, Zeiss-Blue protect. EnergizeMe is a type of antifatigue lens from Zeiss. Antifatigue lenses are made in such a way that is similar to a progressive lens BUT, the power at the bottom is meant to help to relax your eyes.
Normal progressive lenses lower segment is to help you for reading purposes and computer thus the reading power can be from +1.00 all the way to +3.00. Take note reading power and distance power is not the same! I can explain more about it if you all are more interested.

To your Questions:
Number 1- In the past, Zeiss was usually the Go To Brand but of course at a higher price, but recently they have repriced themselves thus the prices are more competitive with the other brands. IMHO, i feel that hoya has now reached the similar standards and thus are fine between both of them. The hoya lenses that is quoted to you is called stellify, for 1.67 STOCK lens level, you cannot make blue control with it as blue control for stock lenses only goes til 1.60 index. If you want 1.67 lenses with blue control then you have to pay slightly more to customize the lenses.

Number 2- Depending on your AGE group and your lifestyle, progressive may/may not benefit you. Usually when you are above 40++ then you will need to use progressive. Digital lenses are very similar to anti fatigue lenses, differences is between the extra power at the bottom used to relax your eyes. Digital lenses has a higher power reduction choice as compared to Anti-Fatigue. Transition lenses(lenses that turn dark when UV light comes into contact with the lens)... If you go outdoors alot then it is good for you to choose so it can help to reduce the glare when you are outdoors. If you are thinking of using it when you drive then dont bother as our car windscreen already has UV protection thus the lenses will not turn dark as no UV is passing through. Thus the main thing is, i need to know your lifestyle, age and also any particular difficulties you have with your vision right now to decide what kind of lenses is better for you!

Number 3- Crizal is a coating of the lens from Essilor. They are a well known lens company so dont worry! 300 for 1.67 i assume is together with Prevencia(blue light coating). All those prices that were quoted to you earlier on is the RRP Thus, there should be discount added in later on.

Number 4- Not to worry. You can find a frame that you like in shop A and make lenses in B as all lenses comes in a ''round shape mould'' that has room for edging(cutting).
What i mean is that it comes in maybe a BIG size lens then the edger will size it down. Shouldnt be an issue, if you want the lenses to be thinner, you can request the lens to be done in minimal edge thickness(METS) BUT only if you are Hyperopic(+power) and not like majority of us who are myopic(-power). Earlier on i mentioned before, The important thing to take note of when choosing a frame to ensure that lenses are not too thick ,would be the frame size. The bigger/longer the frame, the thicker the lenses will be. Then of course choosing a higher index lens 1.67 would reduce the thickness considerable!

Should you still have any questions regarding the lenses, feel free to ask here or pm!

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Old 04-12-2017, 01:33 AM   #3632
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Hey Audrey,

Regarding the crizal lenses that you are not sure what was it, i believe it's the airwear series, which is the polycarbonate material for the lenses.
Meant for individuals doing sports e.g. ball games and all, as the lenses are more impact resistance. However the clarity of the lenses though are not as sharp as the other indexes.

So what are these index 1.5,1.53,1.6,1.67,1.74?
In layman terms, its the thickness of the lenses. The higher the value, the thinner the lenses. Thats why individuals with higher degree are often recommended to use higher index lenses. But that does not mean someone with -1.00 degree can use a 1.67 lens, as certain index of lenses have a minimum degree to start off with e.g. 1.67 iirc starts at -3.00 unless you specially customized the lens which would cost more!!

Eyezen is basically an antifatigue lenses whereby the power at the lower half of your lenses is reduced by about +0.8 degree. E.g. your degree is -4.25, the lowest part of your lenses the power will be around -3.40 to -3.50. The reduction is believe to help your eyes relax when doing near work e.g. document reading/computer. Other brands anti fatigue lenses that i know of is Zeiss(energize me Or Zeiss digital lens), Hoya(trueform nulux active(what i am using now)(i'm also below 30) , Shamir(shamir relax). It comes with a blue filter coating, or in other brands e.g. blue control, blue protect, blue glacier zero.

Hoya lenses that you werent sure why was the price suddenly higher is because of the coating. Hoya stellify is using the HVP coating which is an older version whereas the new one that you saw is using the HVLL coating which is more resistant in many aspects e.g. dirts, scratches and all compared to HVP(stellify).

So regarding your Qns...

52= the size of your lens (length)
18=bridge(Distance between your lenses)
140= Your temple length, the long part which holds the spectacle from the hinge to your eye.
130=probably the colour code/model code of your frame.


Q1) Based on the spectacles frame size above, and my eyes degree, I intend to take Crizal Eye Zen, 1.67 at $350, do you think you can tell if the lens will come out as bulky?

ANS: A 52size lens when edged out might be alittle thick at the side But coupled with a 1.67 index lenses, it should look fine honestly so i believe it will not be too thick as long as the edger(one cutting your lenses) knows how to guide the edging(cutting proccess) of your leneses. Dont worry! But just curious, is your frame very thin? If it is thin then you will surely see some lens thickness protruding for sure. (Frame thin meaning , the frame front)

Q2) What would you say about Crizal Eye Zen? (Hoya is sooooo expensive, although I feel like using this brand... trust the Japanese lol, but do not wish to spend over $350 for the lens because what if I need to change spectacles in a few years again)

ANS: For hoya, their version of Crizal eye zen is the trueform nulux active or also known as hoya REMARK(last time), for zeiss it would be their Energize me lenses. Hoya is surely more expensive due to their coating quality(imo) and also their clarity. I am using a Hoya(anti fatigue lens) too. If you do not wish to spend that much then Eyezen would be able to serve you well!

Q3) As I also do graphic design works (stare at computer a lot), I understand objects will become yellowish color when I see with blue light coating lens. Wonder if people or your customers have express their concerns with colors after wearing it and what would you say or advise to them? Neighbourhood optometrist actually told me to think about it[/QUOTE]

ANS: Ah.. the comment dilemma, yellowish or not. Depending on your own individual preferences, many designers(interior/graphics) opt not to do get the blue filter lenses as they feel their colour perception is being changed. Some still do though...But good news for you is that, you can actually request for the Lenses be ordered without the blue filter coat. But IIRC, essilor eyezen recently cannot be ordered this way. My Hoya trueform nulux active comes without the blue filter and i have order for customers, zeiss digital lenses and energize me without blue filter too. So your worries can be resolved!

So hope these informations helped, and please correct me if i'm wrong guys!
Thanks!
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Old 05-12-2017, 08:56 AM   #3633
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Is Hoya good?

First time hear this brand

Now got package


Last time I always take crizal or essilor one
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Old 05-12-2017, 07:51 PM   #3634
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Hi gurus, my current pair of spectacles are about 4 years old and some spots are appearing which cannot be wiped away. I think the coating must be wearing off. How long do the coating usually last for? I only wash my specs with tap water and wipe them with the microfiber cloth provided.

I am now looking for a new pair of specs. My current lenses are from Crizal and I would like to change brands to see if there's a difference. With a budget of $500 would it be possible to get something like Zeiss? I don't wear contact lenses and do office work. Would the digital lenses be more suitable for me? For the frame I am looking at something like Alexander from Mykita but it is out of budget for me. Would there be cheaper brands with a similar look?

Prescription from 4 years ago is <-5.00 SPH , CYL -1.00 and AXIS at 160 for both eyes.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:06 PM   #3635
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Went to kwong shin ytd. saw chen liping and her hubby there.The optician attending to me told me they are regular customers. got other local celebrities always go there too. :O
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:19 PM   #3636
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how many here are getting their specs from taobao?

frame+lens start around $30
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:49 PM   #3637
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how many here are getting their specs from taobao?

frame+lens start around $30
frame may not be comfortable

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Old 11-12-2017, 03:09 PM   #3638
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Went to kwong shin ytd. saw chen liping and her hubby there.The optician attending to me told me they are regular customers. got other local celebrities always go there too. :O
Wah sure or not so high profile? Or sg dont have many good old optical shops already?
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Old 11-12-2017, 08:25 PM   #3639
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Just made a new specs after 5 years with crizal uv 1.74 lens cost $530

Degree 950/800
Astig 200/150

Is it overprice or consider ok? Not really sure Since I haven't change a specs close to 5 years..
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any one knows the quality from owndays?

quite cheap for index 1.74 price of $180
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Just made a new specs after 5 years with crizal uv 1.74 lens cost $530

Degree 950/800
Astig 200/150

Is it overprice or consider ok? Not really sure Since I haven't change a specs close to 5 years..

w/o transition ?
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does anyone have any feedback on Zeiss Digital Lens vs Crizal Eyezen? Wonder if Zeiss Digital Lens is worth the premium
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Seems fine! Considering the rrp of the lenses. You chose a comfy frame too?

Just made a new specs after 5 years with crizal uv 1.74 lens cost $530

Degree 950/800
Astig 200/150

Is it overprice or consider ok? Not really sure Since I haven't change a specs close to 5 years..
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Digital lenses have addition up Til +1.25 while eyezen is up to +0.80. Thus if you are an early presbyope or even planning to wear progressives, digital might suit you better due to the extra choices you have for the reading add. But if it's just for relaxation of your eye muscles and you are between 20s-early 30s. You can consider doing eyezen also(price-wise)😅. Digital is more expensive. But the premium you are paying for if you choose zeiss is of course the duravision coating and clarity of the lenses(subjective between different individuals too).
Hope this helps!

does anyone have any feedback on Zeiss Digital Lens vs Crizal Eyezen? Wonder if Zeiss Digital Lens is worth the premium
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Hey there, for the first part, yes those white spots highly likely is your multicoating that has peeled. However I seen cases of individuals many years but coating not peeling much thus, thus there could be other factors affecting it too! But usually it last for 2-3 years on average..

500 for zeiss is more than enough but of course depending on your degree. And the type of frame you will choose! Digital lenses/eyezen/lenses that are antifatigue might help. E.g. Trueform nulux active, Shamir relax, zeiss energize me. Note that these Brand’s I mentioned are the more known ones, there are of course other labs with similar lens design(anti fatigue) but cheaper. But quality of course....😅

Not easy to find frames like mykita/Lindberg so I believe maybe invest in one? Haha then can last you Long!

Hope this helps!


Hi gurus, my current pair of spectacles are about 4 years old and some spots are appearing which cannot be wiped away. I think the coating must be wearing off. How long do the coating usually last for? I only wash my specs with tap water and wipe them with the microfiber cloth provided.

I am now looking for a new pair of specs. My current lenses are from Crizal and I would like to change brands to see if there's a difference. With a budget of $500 would it be possible to get something like Zeiss? I don't wear contact lenses and do office work. Would the digital lenses be more suitable for me? For the frame I am looking at something like Alexander from Mykita but it is out of budget for me. Would there be cheaper brands with a similar look?

Prescription from 4 years ago is <-5.00 SPH , CYL -1.00 and AXIS at 160 for both eyes.

Thanks in advance!
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