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Old 25-04-2018, 02:38 PM   #76
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This. I have slipped wearing dainite far more often than on leather.
This I agree too. IMHO,new dainite soles have this plastic-ky feel/grip that feels more slippery than leather!
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Old 25-04-2018, 02:49 PM   #77
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Haha ok point taken

If anyone knows, will be interested to know how long a pair of topy or leather sole can last.

I have a pair of EB on vibram, wore it for ~110 days. The sole looks still good but there is a small split at the toe.
With rotation, I think leather soles should be able to last north of 5 years. I have pairs from 6-7 years ago that still do not require a resole. The thing is, it's really tough to quantify (for me at least), because I obviously wear some pairs more than others. It would also be dependent on the quality of the soles; I had to throw out 2 pairs of Ed Et Al because the soles just felt plain awful and I didn't think they'd stand the test of time.

That said, I used to wear my Alden 990 and 975 as beaters(from 2015 - 2018); sometimes they'd be worn on consecutive days for up to a week due to travel. While the double leather soles on both pairs are pretty well worn, I think they can last for another full year of abuse.

I've been wearing my doak Dovers at least 4 times a month since 2015 as well and I think those can last another 2-3 years, maybe.
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Old 25-04-2018, 04:16 PM   #78
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With rotation, I think leather soles should be able to last north of 5 years. I have pairs from 6-7 years ago that still do not require a resole. The thing is, it's really tough to quantify (for me at least), because I obviously wear some pairs more than others. It would also be dependent on the quality of the soles; I had to throw out 2 pairs of Ed Et Al because the soles just felt plain awful and I didn't think they'd stand the test of time.

That said, I used to wear my Alden 990 and 975 as beaters(from 2015 - 2018); sometimes they'd be worn on consecutive days for up to a week due to travel. While the double leather soles on both pairs are pretty well worn, I think they can last for another full year of abuse.

I've been wearing my doak Dovers at least 4 times a month since 2015 as well and I think those can last another 2-3 years, maybe.
Ah so the "higher" tier shoes will have better quality leather soles. hmm maybe I should try commando on my next pair. My experience was 4 to 5 months on 2 pairs of LLYR and they are slippery...
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Old 25-04-2018, 04:51 PM   #79
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Ah so the "higher" tier shoes will have better quality leather soles. hmm maybe I should try commando on my next pair. My experience was 4 to 5 months on 2 pairs of LLYR and they are slippery...
I like to score new soles with a razor or penknife, or if I'm lazy, just drag my feet on asphalt for awhile.
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Old 25-04-2018, 05:31 PM   #80
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I am probably one of the few who almost never topy my leather sole shoes.
If it comes with Dainite or vibram when i bought them, fine.
But if i buy a pair of leather sole shoes, i like them that way.

It feels more comfortable, the shoes breathe better.

Yes, i risk slipping once in a while in an oily kopitiam or wet granite floor. But vibram will also wear out and become slippery too.

Anyone else go 'commando'?
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Old 25-04-2018, 05:32 PM   #81
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I like to score new soles with a razor or penknife, or if I'm lazy, just drag my feet on asphalt for awhile.
there goes the beautiful soles...
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Old 25-04-2018, 05:33 PM   #82
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Haha ok point taken

If anyone knows, will be interested to know how long a pair of topy or leather sole can last.

I have a pair of EB on vibram, wore it for ~110 days. The sole looks still good but there is a small split at the toe.
Last time when I only had 2 pairs of leather sole shoes,

Mon and Wed : pair A
Tue and Thur: pair B

They lasted about 3 years and I needed a recraft. Recrafted one pair (as the last is no longer in production and I love that last) and disposed the other one.

Both of them are Loake 1880.
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Old 25-04-2018, 05:50 PM   #83
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I have a pair of cheap Herring shoes which i like a lot. Used as rainy day shoes, i wear them a lot on other days too. 4 years and counting. I did not even replace the rubber portion of the heel.

Some of the wear also depends on how you walk and where you walk on. I do not baby my shoes also.
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Old 25-04-2018, 06:05 PM   #84
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Last time when I only had 2 pairs of leather sole shoes,

Mon and Wed : pair A
Tue and Thur: pair B

They lasted about 3 years and I needed a recraft. Recrafted one pair (as the last is no longer in production and I love that last) and disposed the other one.

Both of them are Loake 1880.
~300 days of use, not bad. thanks
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Old 26-04-2018, 06:44 PM   #85
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Any suggestions on where to buy heel lining inserts? the heel lining of my carmina shows wear and tear after some time.
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Old 27-04-2018, 01:49 AM   #86
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I find slipping happens to both leather or topy soles when walking on wet tiles or oily floors.
I go for topy all the time because my toe spring wears the front tip fast. Topy at least resolves that problem for me.
I would agree that adding a front rubber half sole does not entirely eliminate slipping, I don't think any soles you use on any shoes can guarantee no slipping especially on wet/oily surfaces. Although adding a front rubber half sole won't eliminate slipping, they are definitely an improvement over the leather soles.

I do recommend adding a front rubber half sole onto leather sole for folks who commute on foot a fair bit and also agree with Wiz's point that it's not as essential if you wear the leather soles primarily indoors. It's really a personal judgement.

I myself use them primarily as protection against wet weather and for more grip. The most recent Topy's Finlux I put on my GYW shoes was about a year ago. I wear these 2 pairs in constant rotation through rain and shine. One pair has worn down a fair bit, I can barely make out the logo but the ribbings are still pretty clear. For the other pair, I can still quite clearly see the logo. These are 2mm rubber soles. Adding the front rubber half soles also helps to protect the front tip from wearing out. Pretty worth it for the $20-$25 cost I would say and they are easily replaceable when worn out.

As for the heel, it depends on your gait and how much you dig in as well as the hardness of the rubber compound the shoe maker has used. I have replaced the heel on one of my shoes after about 6-8 months of wear with Topy's Topane heel which is 7mm. It's holding up pretty well for now and I expect it to last about a year or so. I have also recently tried JR Rendenbach's 1/4 leather heel piece. I would recommend to have the heel replaced before you start eating into the wood layers, the $20 (for Topy)-$35 (for JR 1/4 leather) is well worth the money VS eating into the wood. These ready made heel replacements comes as a single convenient piece, just have to yank out the entire original heel base layer, cement the heel replacement on and hammer in some nails to make sure they stick on.

Guys commonly ask if I can Topy a pair of shoes after they've been worn and the answer is YES! Unless you've completely worn through your leather soles, adding a front rubber half sole is more often than not possible. I've helped to Topy cracked leather soles and soles that are mouldy and out of shape so that the users can extend the life of their shoes simply cause re-soling with chain stitch is rather costly (it costed me $120-$150 using full JR leather soles with chain stitching. Half sole options are available at lower price points) and re-welting is best done at the original maker with the exact shoe last.
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Old 27-04-2018, 01:50 AM   #87
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Any suggestions on where to buy heel lining inserts? the heel lining of my carmina shows wear and tear after some time.
Recently saw Straits Establishment selling Dasco's suede heel grips on their webstore. $6 and free local shipping, worth a try in my opinion.
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Old 29-04-2018, 06:49 PM   #88
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Guys saw this in IG. What's ur comment on the shoes? I beiong the monks.

https://earnestcollective.com/collections/minimalist


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Old 30-04-2018, 12:27 PM   #89
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Just running a quick interest check on a MTO that i'm considering:

Maker: Enzo Bonafe (through Seamless)

Type: Chukka

Last: Tentatively 946 or similar (up for suggestions)

Welt: norvegese

Sole: single leather with vibram/topy, Beveled waist (not sure if this is possible)

Leather: Plum museum or claret museum

Others: Braided laces

Would anyone be keen in this?
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Old 30-04-2018, 01:12 PM   #90
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Which cobbler can do heel/toe taps? Kips N Kwik doesn't provide that service. Preferably around Northeast area.
Nobody knows any cobbler for toe tap work?
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