Liverpool Forum (Anfield) - Part 22

[JoieDeVivre]

typical klopp

i think the loss can't be directly replaced even if Lemar comes in. PC is just irreplaceable what he brings to the team if not won't be 140m. We will just play differently without him and use the strength of who we have. We have AM even though they not at the same quality as PC (but who is?) so its really ideal target or no go

Consensus really across the board, there's a real risk #LFC won't be buying in January unless #Klopp gets his "target". If not #Lemar (or an early #Keita), then who?

 

[Takechan]

Coutinho's void won't be easily replaced, but unless you all wanna go thru the immediate post-Suarez days where we bought many mediocre players following his sale, I suggest waiting out for Klopp's first choices.

 

[fishercow]

Coutinho's void won't be easily replaced, but unless you all wanna go thru the immediate post-Suarez days where we bought many mediocre players following his sale, I suggest waiting out for Klopp's first choices.

Before Suarez there was Aquilani for Alonso

 

[Henabi]

Coutinho's void won't be easily replaced, but unless you all wanna go thru the immediate post-Suarez days where we bought many mediocre players following his sale, I suggest waiting out for Klopp's first choices.

Some people say: "what post-suarez days?!?!"

Like you, I am afraid of a similar "post-suarez" phase whereby our team suffered dearly on the attacking front.

And now after agreeing to let coutinho go, the LFC board "suddenly" realise that the club could be at risk of not finding a suitable replacement...

Oh come on!!!! This shiet again?!?!

If this is indeed true, then Liverpool should NEVER have agreed to let Coutinho Go in January. Even if Coutinho was so-called deadset on leaving for Barsai. He is contracted to Liverpool till 2021. There's absolutely no hurry to sell at all.

Do we look like the Liverpool club back in 2011 which was on the verge of Administration and a possible financial collapse?
NO.

Do we look like we are in dreaded need of money?
Don't think so, purely looking at the number of commercial deals signed in recent months.

Does our Owners n Management ever gonna learn that it's not every day we can do a "Torres-suarez" type of transfer?
Doesnt seem like it. And it doesn't appear to me that they have learnt anything from the problems our club faced after selling suarez and Sterling.

Anyway... just speaking whatever is off my mind.

 

[hardtounderstand]

typical klopp

i think the loss can't be directly replaced even if Lemar comes in. PC is just irreplaceable what he brings to the team if not won't be 140m. We will just play differently without him and use the strength of who we have. We have AM even though they not at the same quality as PC (but who is?) so its really ideal target or no go

I agree, Coutinho won't be replaced simply because he is irreplaceable. If Klopp does't get his first choice, then we will change the way we get goals.
Maybe its for the better of the team that Coutinho goes. I have seen quite often the rest of the players just pass the ball to him and like expect him to wave his magic wane. Now the responsibilities of breaking down teams will rest on the shoulders of all...including the centre backs.

 

[hardtounderstand]

I think likewise too. Solanke maybe, another typical English CF but seriously lack the physical powess and footballing brains from the recent display.

Rather Woodburn play Cou role or slowly intro him game by game. Afterall he has exp in League Cup last season

I feel that Solanke gives us a different approach. Maybe he can be our plan B, play him then sell him for some profit kind. Don't think he will be a establish first team player for now.
As for Woodburn i think Klopp is still working on his best position. I remember he played a few games in midfield during the pre-season. Hopefully when we finally unleash him, we will see a different Woodburn.

 

[hardtounderstand]

Before Suarez there was Aquilani for Alonso

Christian Poulsen for Javier Mascherano

 

[urbanturban]

I think our team is probably strong enough to challenge for Top 4 w/o Coutinho.
Better to get someone who can fit the system. Rather than waste money on whoever is not an upgrade to who we have.

 

[begintoend]

Where is the mahrez or lemar? Tot you guys say he will replace the void. Of course I think it's a big lost of selling coutinho but than again, his type of players are in more abundance than Suarez or xabi type. Those 2 we sorely missed. I say what lfc needs is to get a replacement soon as staying top4 is totally a must.

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[JoieDeVivre]

you seem to feel like the club has been actively putting PC on ebay and very eager to sell. My opinion that is not the reality, it is simply not possible to keep him and still get the same PC to play for us again. Going heavy handed against a player to prevent a transfer in this case does not give the club the right atmosphere and also make other players think twice about signing contract with us.

Some people say: "what post-suarez days?!?!"

Like you, I am afraid of a similar "post-suarez" phase whereby our team suffered dearly on the attacking front.

And now after agreeing to let coutinho go, the LFC board "suddenly" realise that the club could be at risk of not finding a suitable replacement...

Oh come on!!!! This shiet again?!?!

If this is indeed true, then Liverpool should NEVER have agreed to let Coutinho Go in January. Even if Coutinho was so-called deadset on leaving for Barsai. He is contracted to Liverpool till 2021. There's absolutely no hurry to sell at all.

Do we look like the Liverpool club back in 2011 which was on the verge of Administration and a possible financial collapse?
NO.

Do we look like we are in dreaded need of money?
Don't think so, purely looking at the number of commercial deals signed in recent months.

Does our Owners n Management ever gonna learn that it's not every day we can do a "Torres-suarez" type of transfer?
Doesnt seem like it. And it doesn't appear to me that they have learnt anything from the problems our club faced after selling suarez and Sterling.

Anyway... just speaking whatever is off my mind.

 

[deadguy]

Should try to bring Keita this window and offer them Can. Tell them they can sign Can after this . Klopp already got VVD at the back not sure if he wants to bring another keeper or stuck with what we got.

Forward we got good cover. With or without Cou, we struggle to break down park bus so it's nothing new. Just need to keep Salah fresh.

 

[hardtounderstand]

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[odyas]

Guys, before you all slate off, do remember klopp came in when BR team was struggling for goals. He came and turn it around with lots of goals.

The current team is not that worse off right?

 

[Medicated Oil]

I feel that Solanke gives us a different approach. Maybe he can be our plan B, play him then sell him for some profit kind. Don't think he will be a establish first team player for now.
As for Woodburn i think Klopp is still working on his best position. I remember he played a few games in midfield during the pre-season. Hopefully when we finally unleash him, we will see a different Woodburn.

Solanke is out of place and pace when he was started and sub.
Maybe we are rushing him too much.
Ings may be a better option but he may be loaned out to Rafa soon.

Woodburn still need time to get in tune with the 1st team.
He seems to be bullied around when he was playing due to his size.
Even Banana is also getting the hang of things since he out for so long.

So, there is no direct replacement for Cout at the moment.
Klopp will have to change his tactical approach to suit what he has now in Dubai.

Dun think FSG or Klopp will be rushed into getting some one with too high a price in Jan.
They may have to secure the signing of Leon and Lemar first if they want both of them in the coming summer.

 

[hardtounderstand]

If Sanchez goes to Man City then Mahrez is likely to be going Arsenal.

 

[Bfrost]

I liked how Coutinho developed in Liverpool. From the supporting cast during the SAS season to one who can pull the strings in Klopp's team.

I would also think that Klopp and the team have tried their best to keep Coutinho, but in terms of the money and the lure of playing for Barca, I doubt that any player in the world can reject that opportunity.

I also think that Klopp agree to sell Coutinho now because of several reasons (IMO).
1. The money is too good to resist. Neymar's sale is a one-off type of sale. For Coutinho to be 3/4 of that amount, I doubt there will be another one so soon.
2. Barca and Coutinho are desperate for the move to happen. Klopp has tried for 1/2 a season and have had ample time to try out teams without Coutinho's contributions.
3. Lallana is back to full fitness. IMO, he can fill in the void.
4. Klopp has further replacements lined up. During the summer transfer window he said no because he needed time to find replacements.

I do think that Coutinho is a unique player. He can create and finish when he is on form, and he is hardworking enough to track back to cover the defence. But there are times he's like Stevie G, trying to do too much on his own. The difference is during Gerrard's time, there are players who cannot make it, so he could not rely on them to make a significant contribution. But now the team is pretty strong attacking, so I still think the team can overcome this loss.

 

[Jordan]

If Sanchez goes to Man City then Mahrez is likely to be going Arsenal.

Most likely. And once that happens, you can straight away determine FirmBL as a fraud news outlet. They are just repeating or sharing from some unreliable sources. And I do remember seeing them saying Mahrez is a done deal

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[Henabi]

Guys, before you all slate off, do remember klopp came in when BR team was struggling for goals. He came and turn it around with lots of goals.

The current team is not that worse off right?

Definitely way better but still struggle breaking down "Park bus" teams

 

[Takechan]

Both Solanke and Woodburn are still developing but experience wise, Solanke wins hands down. If it was down to me, without a doubt I would have made Solanke our backup striker as well. It's a tougher choice between him and Ings but that's another story for another day.

However at the moment, I feel that our current setup doesn't play to Solanke's strengths. It's not necessarily a bad thing - he gets to develop himself further towards new playing styles that he may not be exactly comfortable with at the moment; he's still learning after all. I dare say though, he's the "plan B" striker many fans here have been hoping for in the past. Give him some time.

Solanke is out of place and pace when he was started and sub.
Maybe we are rushing him too much.
Ings may be a better option but he may be loaned out to Rafa soon.

Woodburn still need time to get in tune with the 1st team.
He seems to be bullied around when he was playing due to his size.
Even Banana is also getting the hang of things since he out for so long.

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[hermes76]

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