Only 32,000 take home less than WP's proposed $1,300 minimum wage

[Apex01]

Among the 850,000 workers in occupations traditionally deemed lower income, such as clerical support and service staff and tradesmen, about 100,000 earn below $1,300, figures from the Ministry of Manpower show.

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From 850,000 low wage workers, the govt profit their CPF deductions and also GST.

Let's say 1mil or 1.5mil work pass and S-pass foreigners this govt profit from their worker levies.

This system is designed to fully maximize the profits for greedy PAP.

 

[wwenze]

Among the 850,000 workers in occupations traditionally deemed lower income, such as clerical support and service staff and tradesmen, about 100,000 earn below $1,300, figures from the Ministry of Manpower show.

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From 850,000 low wage workers, the govt profit their CPF deductions and also GST.

Let's say 1mil or 1.5mil work pass and S-pass foreigners this govt profit from their worker levies.

This system is designed to fully maximize the profits for greedy PAP.

So much levy, no wonder chicken rice $5 per plate now.

 

[wongkc]

KPK say that in most other countries with minimum wage, foreign workers are included in it.

how convenient to just make such a sweeping statement... i believe those countries are mostly ang moh countries which had a small low wage foreign labour...

Just look closer to home... Hong Kong had separate minimal wage for foreign domestic workers... if i am not wrong... Taiwan also had separate minimal wage for their FDW... Japan also has a minimal wage that doesn't cover foreigners...

Can KPK be clearer which countries minimal wage include foreigners... how are these countries labour market compared to our labour market...?

 

[AristDing]

how convenient to just make such a sweeping statement... i believe those countries are mostly ang moh countries which had a small low wage foreign labour...

Just look closer to home... Hong Kong had separate minimal wage for foreign domestic workers... if i am not wrong... Taiwan also had separate minimal wage for their FDW... Japan also has a minimal wage that doesn't cover foreigners...

Can KPK be clearer which countries minimal wage include foreigners... how are these countries labour market compared to our labour market...?

Surprisingly lack of detail for someone being in the profession of being anal

 

[Konnichiwa]

You still don’t get it. Progressive wage is totally different to universal minimum wage.

Yes u are right.

 

[mp4005 help]

how convenient to just make such a sweeping statement... i believe those countries are mostly ang moh countries which had a small low wage foreign labour...

Just look closer to home... Hong Kong had separate minimal wage for foreign domestic workers... if i am not wrong... Taiwan also had separate minimal wage for their FDW... Japan also has a minimal wage that doesn't cover foreigners...

Can KPK be clearer which countries minimal wage include foreigners... how are these countries labour market compared to our labour market...?

What is Minimum Wage for a Domestic Helper. The government has set a Minimum Allowable Wage (MAW) of HK $4,630 per month which the employer has to pay to the helper. The Standard Employment Contract also includes food allowance of HK $1,121 per month which has to be paid by the employer separately.Sep 27, 2019

japan
The minimum compensation to a personal helper is 200 000 yen/month as set by the law. Sponsor covers transportation to and from work for their personal helper if they live separately. National holidays are considered to be a vocation. It is quite common to pay a personal helper 2-4 weeks of a holiday bonus.

Taiwan's monthly minimum wage is to increase to NT$23,800 (U.S. $757.74) for 2020, up 3.03% from NT$23,100 (U.S. $735.46) for 2019, the Taiwan Ministry of Labor said Aug.Aug 14, 2019

 

[powerrr]

The 32,000 did not include the number of unemployed or retrenched right?

 

[fandango]

Yes u are right.

Possible to implement PWM for all sectors? Why not?

 

[wongkc]

Surprisingly lack of detail for someone being in the profession of being anal

thats a nice pun...

 

[DinoDinoRan]

Implement minimum wage on the 32,000 only lor

Including maids Lor

 

[DinoDinoRan]

I am against maid and bangla earning so little.

Yeah , should fight for them .. all singaporean don’t mind paying a bit more !! Go Jamus go ! 我们永远支持你 ！

 

[knoxville]

WP jlb colors starting to shows keep harping on this minimum wage for what. If cleaner salary 1.5k after introduce minimum wage boss sure cut pay down to 1.3k. WP should focus on other issues otherwise next election better to have more PAP seats unless have other better oppo than WP.

 

[DinoDinoRan]

What is Minimum Wage for a Domestic Helper. The government has set a Minimum Allowable Wage (MAW) of HK $4,630 per month which the employer has to pay to the helper. The Standard Employment Contract also includes food allowance of HK $1,121 per month which has to be paid by the employer separately.Sep 27, 2019

japan
The minimum compensation to a personal helper is 200 000 yen/month as set by the law. Sponsor covers transportation to and from work for their personal helper if they live separately. National holidays are considered to be a vocation. It is quite common to pay a personal helper 2-4 weeks of a holiday bonus.

Taiwan's monthly minimum wage is to increase to NT$23,800 (U.S. $757.74) for 2020, up 3.03% from NT$23,100 (U.S. $735.46) for 2019, the Taiwan Ministry of Labor said Aug.Aug 14, 2019

Yup , Singaporeans paying too little for maids ! Exploiting them ... so cheap for what ... minimum 1.3K is the way to go

 

[boredom2012]

Is it? You mean The Maid and Bangla are earning $1300?

Direct earning no indirect earning yes. Housing levy and food.

 

[sunzoner]

Dr Koh had cited the figure to explain that a minimum wage was not necessary. He said the Government's policies, particularly the progressive wage model (PWM) and Workfare Income Supplement, already ensure the majority of low-wage workers take home more than $1,300 a month.

Among the 850,000 workers in occupations traditionally deemed lower income, such as clerical support and service staff and tradesmen, about 100,000 earn below $1,300, figures from the Ministry of Manpower show.

After taking into account Workfare wage top-ups and employers' Central Provident Fund contribution, about 56,000 earn less than $1,300. Of these, about 32,000 are full-time employees, or 1.7 per cent of the workforce, a "very small number", said Dr Koh.

So if salary increase for this 32,000 will bring about the end of Singapore's competitiveness and end life as we know it?

 

[wwenze]

Talk so rosy about SG current situation, yet we don't see cardboard collectors in other countries except HK which our gahment always likes comparing to

 

[sunzoner]

If upping Employment pass min salary is to encourage employer to employ less EP, so if we give sinkies a min salary, means what?

Means the logic given is faulty.

 

[xdivider]

i wonder if everyone agrees with his rationale.

1.7% people is inconsequential as long as it keeps the status quo..........

 

[sunzoner]

Need to restrict the EP also...
Also means starting a business will be tough... too high cost
My friend hire programmer in Batam $200-$300 per month

So it not so straight forward lah..

So SG should decrease programmer salary in SG to $200-$300 per month to compete with Batam?

 

[sunzoner]

Ya... a lot of business will close shop.... if there is universal mini wages...

You advocating for universal mini wages or putting up strawmen?