New HDB BTO Flat - How do you connect your Home Fiber Network

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Thank you for the advice
Yes, for starters you can do the above approach. Depending on your needs, you may in future

- Add more access points around the house to cover blindspots (if any)
- Change the router at DB to a better one.
 

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Thank you Sir for the explanations. Learnt from these pointers
yes

The reason is: the main difference in the "low end" and "good" router normally happens at the wireless end.

In other words, you are paying much higher for high-end router because it has better wifi performance.

For our home environment, wired routing is a piece of cake, any simple router can do the job properly.

Putting the good router in DB is wasting your money. You build a good shield to degrade its performance.
 

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Hi bros,

I am staying at hdb4rm and fibrepoint is inside the db boxes.

Thinking to drill hole and place shelves to place modem beside the db boxes. Is it doable? Any one did the same?

Any company to intro for such project?
 

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bro, If this setup work?

ONT -> Unifi USG -> UniFi Switch PoE 8 (150W) -> UniFi 6 Long-Range AP

Yes, it would work. Essentially, any device can be after the USG, and any device that needs POE needs to be connected to the switch. If you only have 1 POE device, it may not make economic sense to get a switch. You can just use the POE Injector.
 

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Yes, it would work. Essentially, any device can be after the USG, and any device that needs POE needs to be connected to the switch. If you only have 1 POE device, it may not make economic sense to get a switch. You can just use the POE Injector.

Noted and thank you Bro, do you also happen to know which unifi switch support LACP? Will need that for my NAS.
 

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Noted and thank you Bro, do you also happen to know which unifi switch support LACP? Will need that for my NAS.

The Switch Series (e.g. US-8 like the one you mentioned) and above would support aggregation. Not sure about the Switch Lite series though. Their Switch Flex certainly does not support it.
 

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Wondering anyone here using the Unifi G4 Doorbell.

If would consider that, the UDM-Pro seem like good idea as can act as NVR and USG. But cons is i think will be overheat if put in the cabinet.
 

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Hi, I am moving in to a resales 2016 bto flat (bukit panjang area)

The fibrepoint is located at the db box.

There is also a data point inside the db box which I believe should lead to one of the telephone port at the living room / study room.

I am thinking to set up like this : fibrepoint > ONT > the data point ( in the db box) > the data point (somewhere of the house) > router (WiFi mesh). Is it viable?
 

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Hi, I am moving in to a resales 2016 bto flat (bukit panjang area)

The fibrepoint is located at the db box.

There is also a data point inside the db box which I believe should lead to one of the telephone port at the living room / study room.

I am thinking to set up like this : fibrepoint > ONT > the data point ( in the db box) > the data point (somewhere of the house) > router (WiFi mesh). Is it viable?

Yes. But you may want to check. Usually it should have more data points inside the DB box, leading to each room, you may even have two LAN ports in the living room.

When you say wifi mesh system, which one do you intend to use? Which ISP are you using?

If indeed you only have one data point in the DB box and one data point somewhere in the house, depending on the location of "somewhere", you may have difficulties deploying the mesh solution.
 

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Thanks for your reply bro.

I signing up with StarHub for smart WiFi pro. Will get 2x linksys mx4200

Only issue right now not sure if my electrician will be able to test where the data point in the db box leads to.

By the way bro, this is the image of my db box data point and living room lan point. Can help me see if it’s okay?

https://ibb.co/ftbb9Hf
https://ibb.co/tsj2Nf2

I understand the living room point may be telephone point but I can convert to data point if need



Yes. But you may want to check. Usually it should have more data points inside the DB box, leading to each room, you may even have two LAN ports in the living room.

When you say wifi mesh system, which one do you intend to use? Which ISP are you using?

If indeed you only have one data point in the DB box and one data point somewhere in the house, depending on the location of "somewhere", you may have difficulties deploying the mesh solution.
 

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If indeed you only have one data point in the DB box and one data point somewhere in the house, depending on the location of "somewhere", you may have difficulties deploying the mesh solution.

I thought this is where mesh solution shines.

Just need one data point, and you can deploy many wireless routers, interconnected wirelessly via mesh network.

For houses with many data points in living room/bed rooms, these is no need to use mesh network.
 

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I thought this is where mesh solution shines.

Just need one data point, and you can deploy many wireless routers, interconnected wirelessly via mesh network.

For houses with many data points in living room/bed rooms, these is no need to use mesh network.

They are two types of backhaul with mesh solution.

1) wireless backhaul: mesh nodes need to have good connection to the main node

1a) Dual band mesh with wireless backhaul, you can call this glorified repeater with better roaming support. But performance may not be good for wireless clients to the mesh node.

1b) triband mesh with wireless backhaul. This helps to help the bandwidth the issue in 1a. But the connection between mesh node and main node still post challenges to the placement. Price is higher.

2) Ethernet backhaul
You can call this glorified AP, with easier roaming support (eg: 802.11 k/v/r or proprietary protocol), at least for layman. Even low end dual band AC1200 mesh may have pretty good performance in this case. Example will be the S$79 a pair TP-Link Deco M4 (usual price S$99 per pair, promotion price at S$79 or $89 per pair).

For more experienced users, indeed you can deploy AP in this case and tune TX power or things like that for roaming, but this is not friendly to novice users.
 

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Thanks for your reply bro.

I signing up with StarHub for smart WiFi pro. Will get 2x linksys mx4200

Only issue right now not sure if my electrician will be able to test where the data point in the db box leads to.

By the way bro, this is the image of my db box data point and living room lan point. Can help me see if it’s okay?

https://ibb.co/ftbb9Hf
https://ibb.co/tsj2Nf2

I understand the living room point may be telephone point but I can convert to data point if need

I see. Interesting and indeed it seems to me you only have one data point in the DB box. I think it may link to a data point somewhere in the house. Your red color circle covers the one below the data point and it is probably a telephone port and then it probably links to the telephone point in the living room.

You may engage the electrician to check whether he can convert the telephone points to data points.

If indeed there are no other data point in the flat, then you have to use wireless backhaul. With proper placement, your Linksys Velop MX4200 should still be okay as it is a triband mesh. You may want to post the floor plan after confirming with the electrician on the data ports.
 

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Thanks bro for your reply.

Yeah electrician probably coming to check, but I have no internet yet , only installing 05april, will the electrician be able to check where the data point lead to?

https://ibb.co/LnJypjm

Anyway my floor plan is like this, red = ont , purple = router. Is the placement okay?


[ QUOTE=xiaofan;133149759]I see. Interesting and indeed it seems to me you only have one data point in the DB box. I think it may link to a data point somewhere in the house. Your red color circle covers the one below the data point and it is probably a telephone port and then it probably links to the telephone point in the living room.

You may engage the electrician to check whether he can convert the telephone points to data points.

If indeed there are no other data point in the flat, then you have to use wireless backhaul. With proper placement, your Linksys Velop MX4200 should still be okay as it is a triband mesh. You may want to post the floor plan after confirming with the electrician on the data ports.[/QUOTE]
 

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Thanks bro for your reply.

Yeah electrician probably coming to check, but I have no internet yet , only installing 05april, will the electrician be able to check where the data point lead to?

https://ibb.co/LnJypjm

Anyway my floor plan is like this, red = ont , purple = router. Is the placement okay?

it is very easy to check the data port and the cable between the ports.

all you need is a cheap $4 network cable tester.

https://www.lazada.sg/products/netw...pair-line-detector-i373086708-s870524981.html

if you have no wired backhaul and rely on wireless backhaul, make sure that there is no walls or obstacles between the 2 nodes.

Your proposed layout might not give you the best speed.

if you are renovating your flat, it is better to include data port in all room.

if the cost is too high, you can re-use the starhub cable. all you need is to buy a few MOCA adaptors.
 
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