OFFICIAL: Malaysia 🇲🇾 15th General Election - 19th November 2022

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When the times changes, even the saf also activited to protect the new oppostion pm.
By right, that's the way. Because that is in the Oath they swore (i.e. to be impartial and non-partisan).

In actuality, we all know that Elder Lee had plans made for "freak results" (aka coup d'etat) and ppl high up in the Armed Forces will be involved in maintaining status quo. Whether or not any of his successors continue to keep that plan in the books is a question no one here wish to have an answer to.


a pity his term maybe last 1 term. Next election he is 80 years old. need to groom Rafazi to be the next PM. have to look for his successor immediately.

a Change of Dynasty. This five years groom the police and army to be loyal to him
It would be good enough for him to set up a new framework, leave a good legacy and groom a worthy successor that the Rakyat can follow in the future. He can step down from leadership but still have his hands somewhat pulling the strings from behind the scenes (like LKY).

But if he's still able (and not ousted before then) for 2nd term, I don't see why not. Madhatter can do it in his 90s mah...
 

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By right, that's the way. Because that is in the Oath they swore (i.e. to be impartial and non-partisan).

In actuality, we all know that Elder Lee had plans made for "freak results" (aka coup d'etat) and ppl high up in the Armed Forces will be involved in maintaining status quo. Whether or not any of his successors continue to keep that plan in the books is a question no one here wish to have an answer to.



It would be good enough for him to set up a new framework, leave a good legacy and groom a worthy successor that the Rakyat can follow in the future. He can step down from leadership but still have his hands somewhat pulling the strings from behind the scenes (like LKY).

But if he's still able (and not ousted before then) for 2nd term, I don't see why not. Madhatter can do it in his 90s mah...
that why our Singapore must amended to ensure that the Singapore president must not be any ex member of any political party or spouses. This is to maintain neutrality.
 

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The sultans scare of pas not other parties. The know pas will install a ayatollah n kick the kings out.
 

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I think may not last 1 term. This is because he table a motion of confidence. Wait Tin Tin manage to get the amount of votes among the MPs. Then he will have to resign and he will be PM only till 19 Dec. Haha


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I think may not last 1 term. This is because he table a motion of confidence. Wait Tin Tin manage to get the amount of votes among the MPs. Then he will have to resign and he will be PM only till 19 Dec. Haha
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see agong say to form unity gov and with bn , gps and grs also joining..

Tintin no chance already la...that's why dsai so confident on it..

now that gps know that they were snook into believing bn was supposedly supporting Tintin by the dealmaker, they sure tulan one..
 

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you retire in jb?
see agong say to form unity gov and with bn , gps and grs also joining..

Tintin no chance already la...that's why dsai so confident on it..

now that gps know that they were snook into believing bn was supposedly supporting Tintin by the dealmaker, they sure tulan one..
Today another day of revelation with Anwar’s proposal of vote of confidence
 

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cos muyiddin is not simple to deal with. Anwar have the endorsement of all the Sultans. even now muyiddin really got 112 now also the sultans wun bother him.

Anwar got sultans' support. naturally the civil servants and people respect and accept the king decision.

Big credit go to the King. else now muyiddin still biting and arguing. Anwar still shaky. Today showdown is a grand one to install Anwar as the pm. Never in recent appointment of pm require all the Sultans to endorse a pm in this way. Cos Anwar is a opposition becoming an PM. Malaysia ushering in a new era of multi racial politics instead of bucking on the race in Parliament session when they start to argue.

PKR and DAP past 24 years instilling hated among the government and other parties till people cannot adjust not to F them in Parliament. Upcoming Parliament all gather will scold PN not to play with race and reglion cards and ask them get over and start making policies.

If one day a opposition leader won in Singapore as PM, I think need to ask president, Chief of defence force and Chief Judge stand behind to support and endorse him to be the new pm in City Hall.
If Singapore opposition win, not open COI ah?
 

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that why our Singapore must amended to ensure that the Singapore president must not be any ex member of any political party or spouses. This is to maintain neutrality.
This is impossible to achieve within the next 4-5 elections in my opinion.
 

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see agong say to form unity gov and with bn , gps and grs also joining..

Tintin no chance already la...that's why dsai so confident on it..

now that gps know that they were snook into believing bn was supposedly supporting Tintin by the dealmaker, they sure tulan one..
Tin tin only chance is when those PH led state assemblies due to expire next year. if he can find BN MP there to resign and trigger a BE, it wont affect as badly and he might get the numbers also (With GPS GRS all goes to PN as per their DNA)
 

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Tin tin only chance is when those PH led state assemblies due to expire next year. if he can find BN MP there to resign and trigger a BE, it wont affect as badly and he might get the numbers also (With GPS GRS all goes to PN as per their DNA)

If the 10pt agreement all sides honour it then should be a non issue...Actually GPS/GRS more leaning towards BN due to many years of cooperation and with their voters base, i think if anything abang would be more wary of backlash liao..
 

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If the 10pt agreement all sides honour it then should be a non issue...Actually GPS/GRS more leaning towards BN due to many years of cooperation and with their voters base, i think if anything abang would be more wary of backlash liao..
It remains to be seen. It seemed like only bare minimum (13/23) of the GPS members supported Anwar and Openg didnt state who his coaliation will support clearly.

Openg could have open a backdoor by telling GPS members to "freely choose a coaliation" since GPS & GRS supposed to work as a bloc but GRS is still commit 0.

Meanwhile there are a saying that only 26 of 30 BN supports Anwar too. Cant imagine Hishamuddin talk so loud but lan lan have to work with Anwar and DAP.


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Meanwhile there are a saying that only 26 of 30 BN supports Anwar too. Cant imagine Hishamuddin talk so loud but lan lan have to work with Anwar and DAP.


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Then how about Anwar/DAP slogan - UMNO, a kleptocracy party...a vote for UMNO is a vote for Zahid? Can u imagine they are sharing bed now. And LGE...lanlan apologised to GPS/Abang Johari cos need to share bed now. Just remember, most politicians are not honest. Most of them are black pots and kettles.
 
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Then how about Anwar/DAP slogan - UMNO, a kleptocracy party...a vote for UMNO is a vote for Zahid? Can u imagine they are sharing bed now.
True to that. But Anwar/DAP did not reject unity govt outright on the advise of agong.

They cant give the excuse of not working with UMNO over kleptocracy because LGE contested in Pagan and won in a landslide but he still have ongoing gaft trial >.<

fml, anyone who have tried applied (white collar / MNC / civil service) jobs / uni will know that one will need to declare if they have ongoing suits (civil or criminal) which means high chance gone case.


and jib kor, zahid and lge all still can run and get elected........
 

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True to that. But Anwar/DAP did not reject unity govt outright on the advise of agong.

They cant give the excuse of not working with UMNO over kleptocracy because LGE contested in Pagan and won in a landslide but he still have ongoing gaft trial >.<

fml, anyone who have tried applied (white collar / MNC / civil service) jobs / uni will know that one will need to declare if they have ongoing suits (civil or criminal) which means high chance gone case.


and jib kor, zahid and lge all still can run and get elected........

Why would Anwar/Dap reject Agong advise? Former have more to gain than loose. Power. Money. Forget abt kleptocracy.
 
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As of today, the Unity Gov is still unstable. Everyone agreed to play nice at the moment because of 'hung' election and The King gave them this option "Unity Gov". Which means, the winner is not really the winner, and the loser is not really the loser. All can save their face for the time being.

It's just that Anwar is PM10 in this so-called Unity Gov. No difference from Ismail PM9, who temporary takes over (cease fire) due to Covid.


Now, he has to work with BN + GPS + others + PN (he said opened for PN to join).
- Things will get messy when he names the positions. Some happy some unhappy. Then will continue to plot.

- On going court cases. To name a few, Syed Saddiq (Muda), LGE , Zahid. How he handles that. * In his press conference, no corruption... blah blah blah.

- Umno general assembly from Dec 21 to 24. What happens if Zahid loses. The new president will continue to support PH?

- "If" PN joins the Unity Gov. what about check & balance? PN to stay as Opposition?

- Some States elections due (see below). Compete one another or ??
Note: Perak & Pahang (PH + BN; BN is the head). Perlis (PN).
You can see below table (due in 2023)


Selangor Selangor (14th)26 June 2018[39]26 June 202325 August 2023Not dissolving[nb 15][8]
Kelantan Kelantan (14th)28 June 2018[41]28 June 202327 August 2023[9]
Terengganu Terengganu (14th)1 July 2018[42]1 July 202330 August 2023
Negeri Sembilan Negeri Sembilan (14th)2 July 2018[43]2 July 202331 August 2023[8]
Kedah Kedah (14th)4 July 2018[44]4 July 20232 September 2023[9]
Penang Penang (14th)2 August 2018[45]2 August 20231 October 2023

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Malaysian_general_election

 

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As of today, the Unity Gov is still unstable. Everyone agreed to play nice at the moment because of 'hung' election and The King gave them this option "Unity Gov". Which means, the winner is not really the winner, and the loser is not really the loser. All can save their face for the time being.

It's just that Anwar is PM10 in this so-called Unity Gov. No difference from Ismail PM9, who temporary takes over (cease fire) due to Covid.


Now, he has to work with BN + GPS + others + PN (he said opened for PN to join).
- Things will get messy when he names the positions. Some happy some unhappy. Then will continue to plot.

- On going court cases. To name a few, Syed Saddiq (Muda), LGE , Zahid. How he handles that. * In his press conference, no corruption... blah blah blah.

- Umno general assembly from Dec 21 to 24. What happens if Zahid loses. The new president will continue to support PH?

- "If" PN joins the Unity Gov. what about check & balance? PN to stay as Opposition?

- Some States elections due (see below). Compete one another or ??
Note: Perak & Pahang (PH + BN; BN is the head). Perlis (PN).
You can see below table (due in 2023)


Selangor Selangor (14th)26 June 2018[39]26 June 202325 August 2023Not dissolving[nb 15][8]
Kelantan Kelantan (14th)28 June 2018[41]28 June 202327 August 2023[9]
Terengganu Terengganu (14th)1 July 2018[42]1 July 202330 August 2023
Negeri Sembilan Negeri Sembilan (14th)2 July 2018[43]2 July 202331 August 2023[8]
Kedah Kedah (14th)4 July 2018[44]4 July 20232 September 2023[9]
Penang Penang (14th)2 August 2018[45]2 August 20231 October 2023

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Malaysian_general_election

Given such messy potential scenarios of plotting one after another, best is like sg,
have one majority party wins and rules.
 

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If i am Anwar, just grab all under government bloc and hamtum the PN. he needs those GPS, GRS, Warisan and independents to support his bills and policies.

Treat them with respect and hear from them what is their role they can play in government. Winning hearts

should act like good gentlemen recruit all. He need bullets to fight the war in Parliament.

tintin make a mistake by rejecting a unity government.
 

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Given such messy potential scenarios of plotting one after another, best is like sg,
have one majority party wins and rules.
When the wind start blow to the west. all those lalang will naturally adjust and follow the wind to the west.

As the situation changes and set for Anwar to be pm, human heart will also change. All the GPS, GRS, Warisan and independents will naturally follow the flow and stand on Anwar side. 时势变,人心也会变, 大势已定。现在没人能改变这个局了。
 
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