PC Speaker recommendation

[hyperfuse]

As long as you're happy with the sound, any combination will work! EQ is personal preference. Some don't like it, others do. I personally like EQ to help make great sounding speakers more favourable to my personal taste.

@Op_Valkyrie Wow, you really love your Yamahas. I haven't heard them before but i wish i could give it a listen in the future. Only heard good things about it. Does Iso Acoustic help? Currently my speakers are on a foam block to isolate any vibrations to the desk... Still haven't found a good desktop speaker stand yet.

yea i guess sound is really really subjective and based on personal preference.

Some audiophiles really love their audio to be flat. I cant. it makes the audio sounds like no life and i need to increase volume to enjoy the Flat EQ haha....

I EQ so that the audio sounds livelier, rich and enjoyable to my ears. Imagine u go to the cinema and watch a blockbuster, and when an explosion hits, no obvious rumble or vibration. Its pretty boring.. Audiophiles will always argue that..." its how the director intended it to sound" Just boring to me haha... i am seeking entertainment, not reality. =x

 

[wwenze]

i dont think the r1280dbs has a high pass filter

Turns out it does not detect the subwoofer, it just detects whether a cable is connected to the 3.5mm. The other side can be connected to nothing.

What, were you expecting otherwise?

When the sub-out is connected, the bass of the R1280DBs becomes rolled off. I'm too dumb to figure out how to use the difference function of REW, so I EQ the bass to flat, and then connected the sub-out.

BTW ignore the treble, I just placed it close mic close to the woofer randomly on the table, so everything is expected to be messed up.

As for what is coming out from the sub-out, it is also filtered:

Please don't ask why I have to resort to such ghetto methods to get this frequency response. Good enough to see the curve, right? White noise signal sent to speaker, sub-out connected to my soundcard. A lot of 50Hz noise because of old cable problems and such.

 

[Daty41]

can i ask, nobody complain when u play loud music or watch movies? especially with the bass or u have setup sound proofing at ur desk area. My wall is sharing with neighbor somemore.

one reason i never invest in decent speaker setups......just get headphones or simple speakers for watching youtube softly.

 

[Psycovirus]

Oh! So RB1280DBs has a high-pass filter when Sub-out is connected. That is wild. That kind of function is usually reserved for higher end amplifiers and speakers. Edifier did a great job with that pair of bookshelves.

 

[Psycovirus]

can i ask, nobody complain when u play loud music or watch movies? especially with the bass or u have setup sound proofing at ur desk area. My wall is sharing with neighbor somemore.

one reason i never invest in decent speaker setups......just get headphones or simple speakers for watching youtube softly.

Oh, personal experience. I received complaint from neighbour before when watching loud movies in the living room with a home theatre setup. It was not the sound that was causing the issue, it was the vibration from the 12" Subwoofer placed directly on the floor.

So, just got a resale HDB, setup home theatre in living room, I just placed the Sub on the floor. Have not done any proper setup yet. Watched a few movies around 9pm+ night time. Got complain from neighbour knocking on the door to say its noisy. I apologized.
Next few days, got stacks of Daiso earthquake isolation pads and placed under the sub + tower speakers. Tested at the same volume and checked-in with the neighbour. He don't hear anything on his side. No complaints since.

The vibration of the sub traveling through the floor/onto the walls was annoying our poor neighbour.

Just be reasonable with volume, close the doors and windows too, isolate the speakers and subwoofers off the floor. Sound should not leak out to neighbour...

Note: No fancy sound proofing. Just curtains for the windows, weather seals on doors and rubber strips for the bottom of the doors (mainly to prevent aircon leaking).

 

[hyperfuse]

ya i also set it the bass on my r1280dbs to 0 ( i assume thats flat)

but without EQ, not much noticeable bass. i have to EQ to get the t5 sub to shine.

 

[hyperfuse]

Oh! So RB1280DBs has a high-pass filter when Sub-out is connected. That is wild. That kind of function is usually reserved for higher end amplifiers and speakers. Edifier did a great job with that pair of bookshelves.

so what does that mean hahaha. sorry i really noob. Will that help with my T5?

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

For my case, I can verify that even with this monster below, no one has complained about my entertainment systems or hifi setups noise or vibrations.

FYI this is a bass guitar amp for me to bring the house down… so whatever subwoofer you guys are referring to are only a fraction of this

 

[Psycovirus]

so what does that mean hahaha. sorry i really noob. Will that help with my T5?

Oh, if you refer to wwenze's graph, the squiggly lines. Blue is when no subwoofer is connected. You can see the speakers produce Bass up to 60hz. When Sub-out is connected to a cable (no actual sub), the speaker knows and adjusts its output to only produce till 100 hz, aka no bass. That way, the subwoofer can handle the bass and not worry about speaker and subwoofer interfering each other. Also, since speaker don't have to handle lower frequencies, its mids and highs should technically improve.

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

As long as you're happy with the sound, any combination will work! EQ is personal preference. Some don't like it, others do. I personally like EQ to help make great sounding speakers more favourable to my personal taste.

@Op_Valkyrie Wow, you really love your Yamahas. I haven't heard them before but i wish i could give it a listen in the future. Only heard good things about it. Does Iso Acoustic help? Currently my speakers are on a foam block to isolate any vibrations to the desk... Still haven't found a good desktop speaker stand yet.

I was using foam previously but was having problem elevating the monitors to my ear level and iso acoustic stands have varies height and angle adjustments which is one of the best stands (reasonable pricing too). These Yamaha are great monitor speakers - it’s no secret that most reputable artists and studios are using these babies for professional recording or mixing.

The only difference is I’m tuning accuracy of the frequencies to my requirements now based on my opamp and amp configuration - which I can always revert to neutral/flat configuration since these monitor speakers are natively accurate without any “Color” and this is useful during when I’m doing mixing or looping samples.

 

[ronnie_gogs]

which I can always revert to neutral/flat configuration since these monitor speakers are natively accurate without any “Color” and this is useful during when I’m doing mixing or looping samples.

Yeah that is the main point of neutral active studio monitors. Its not about audiophile purity for a flat profile. Its mainly to have a nice baseline when mixing or working on audio. Working with a DAW or even video editing with audio track its always best to keep it neutral. Mix with coloured audio and it may sound fine to you but become pretty bad on other devices.

EQ when you want to enjoy a movie or a specific music. Vocal specific music different EQ, Instrumental different EQ.

 

[Daty41]

Oh, personal experience. I received complaint from neighbour before when watching loud movies in the living room with a home theatre setup. It was not the sound that was causing the issue, it was the vibration from the 12" Subwoofer placed directly on the floor.

So, just got a resale HDB, setup home theatre in living room, I just placed the Sub on the floor. Have not done any proper setup yet. Watched a few movies around 9pm+ night time. Got complain from neighbour knocking on the door to say its noisy. I apologized.
Next few days, got stacks of Daiso earthquake isolation pads and placed under the sub + tower speakers. Tested at the same volume and checked-in with the neighbour. He don't hear anything on his side. No complaints since.

The vibration of the sub traveling through the floor/onto the walls was annoying our poor neighbour.

Just be reasonable with volume, close the doors and windows too, isolate the speakers and subwoofers off the floor. Sound should not leak out to neighbour...

Note: No fancy sound proofing. Just curtains for the windows, weather seals on doors and rubber strips for the bottom of the doors (mainly to prevent aircon leaking).

i was thinking get this from Ikea but its a bit expensive to cover the whole table . Maybe i try the isolation pad first on a larger speaker.

https://www.ikea.com/sg/en/p/eilif-...VZI9LBR08hA14EAQYCCABEgIeD_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[tsteo77]

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[wwenze]

can i ask, nobody complain when u play loud music or watch movies? especially with the bass or u have setup sound proofing at ur desk area. My wall is sharing with neighbor somemore.

one reason i never invest in decent speaker setups......just get headphones or simple speakers for watching youtube softly.

You can experiment in your own home yea?

Close the doors and see if the other room can hear.

There is no fixed answer because it depends on how loud you turn up the volume. But the volume needs to get rather loud.

 

[Daty41]

You can experiment in your own home yea?

Close the doors and see if the other room can hear.

There is no fixed answer because it depends on how loud you turn up the volume. But the volume needs to get rather loud.

Trying tonight, put something below speaker so no transfer of vibration, close windows, curtain and door...then go outside see can hear or not.....if my small speaker can hear then my flat walls too thin or hollow liao.

 

[wwenze]

Just to share, for my current end of the road setup for two of my study rooms, I would preferred a more flat or “colour less” monitor speakers/sub and pair them with a DAC of my choice (e.g. Xonar Essence One MUSES Edition and Oppo HA-1 or any DAC with changeable opamp) via XLR balanced cables.

FYI, my DACs have been around for many years and those are the hardware that doesn’t need to keep changing unlike PC components (maybe opamp only?), so investing on a good audio setup or at least something your ears like is worthy.

YMMV

Study room #1

Study room #2

I have unfortunate news for you then... you won't be able to find any more "flat" or "colour less" or rather "taste less" monitor speakers than the Yamahas

And that's mostly because the general sound signature is kinda of... erm... for a studio monitor

But if anything this also shows how significant personal preference is when it comes to liking a speaker or not, and why we must always take that into account when recommending speakers based on our own personal preferences.

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

I have unfortunate news for you then... you won't be able to find any more "flat" or "colour less" or rather "taste less" monitor speakers than the Yamahas

And that's mostly because the general sound signature is kinda of... erm... for a studio monitor

But if anything this also shows how significant personal preference is when it comes to liking a speaker or not, and why we must always take that into account when recommending speakers based on our own personal preferences.

Dude… I don understand why are you telling me things that I already know, especially on the unfortunate portion….Haha

and that’s my whole point and I also putting an amp to tune it to my liking (not via software EQ) and when I need it for studio purposes I will pass through the amp portion. 🫠

 

[Daty41]

Trying tonight, put something below speaker so no transfer of vibration, close windows, curtain and door...then go outside see can hear or not.....if my small speaker can hear then my flat walls too thin or hollow liao.

sit my small speaker on a sponge material, and its my window problem. I have one plane of louvered window next to me facing the outside corridor (next to my neighbor's door) ...and i thought my curtain will block the noise but the noise outside is very loud and very clear. now searching for noise blocking curtains.... thru walls and doors, not so bad..sound is muffled

 

[Siyu]

KEF LSX II how much does this cost in SGD and where?
are there any batteries inside these speakers since it's wireless..

 

[tsteo77]

KEF LSX II how much does this cost in SGD and where?
are there any batteries inside these speakers since it's wireless..

@Siyu, sure you're fine to decide buying this speakers ? See below then and this speakers are not operated by battery.

https://www.stereo.com.sg/kef-lsx-ii-active-home-sound-system.html