I rented the whole unit of an apartment, is it right the the landlord claimed the CDC vouchers?

[crimsontactics]

maybe it's designed this way to fish out those tax evader that did not change their address.

Smart move by PAP!

 

[st0rm5cap3]

Owner is paying for all the related taxes on the home, so he should be eligible for the voucher

CDC voucher is not meant to be landlord or homeowner rebate lah! It's meant for Singaporean household. So sinkie landlord should claim from his current residence, not the tenanted residence. Anyway, if landlord claim easily online via Singpass means he never update his official address, can bao toh. Then if his family member claim from their current address, it's claim 2x!

If 2 families stay in same address then go CC with proof to claim another set of vouchers for the 2nd family.

 

[uncle_josh]

Now the fundamental question.

Each household get $500. If a person has 2 properties rented out and he also stay in a 3rd condo. He gets $500 x 3?

If so, then why is the rich benefitting?

The G not stupid.
Don't be self-entitled and go claim 3x$500.

 

[evildoer]

The G not stupid.
Don't be self-entitled and go claim 3x$500.

lol, even if he tried, the system would definitely reject the multiple claim.. i don't see our G can design the claim system to have such a big exploit

 

[uncle_josh]

CDC voucher is not meant to be landlord or homeowner rebate lah! It's meant for Singaporean household. So sinkie landlord should claim from his current residence, not the tenanted residence. Anyway, if landlord claim easily online via Singpass means he never update his official address, can bao toh. Then if his family member claim from their current address, it's claim 2x!

If 2 families stay in same address then go CC with proof to claim another set of vouchers for the 2nd family.

The G not stupid.
That household or pigeon hole stay 10 families, only 1 can claim.
Then the 10 families go divide themselves lah.

 

[sgggid]

Nope, landlord locked one bedroom and his registered address is the place I'm renting...

if its renting out before MOP by locking 1 room, reporting him will make his $500 voucher very expensive...

 

[Alilolo]

From this discussion,

It looks like many landlords have violated some laws unknowingly while some have knowingly taking advantage of the CDC scheme. #ICA #CDC Please spare some time to educate the people and rein in some triers of the system here…it’s raiding the resources for those that claim when they should not be!

 

[coldish]

Cdc vouchers is to offset the high costs.
If the tenants are rich and the landlord happens to be poor why should the former even get a claim of it? I assume if you can rent 3-5k a month u shld be rich.

 

[DragonFire]

The G not stupid.
Don't be self-entitled and go claim 3x$500.

You can't do it anyway. Your ICA only records your current address, which you are required to update within a month of change.

It is used to compute tax and other citizenship benefits - including CDC.
It is a criminal offence to not update it. So GG for those thinking they can game the system and kenna bunknife.

 

[DragonFire]

From this discussion,

It looks like many landlords have violated some laws unknowingly while some have knowingly taking advantage of the CDC scheme. #ICA #CDC Please spare some time to educate the people and rein in some triers of the system here…it’s raiding the resources for those that claim when they should not be!

Ignorance of the law is no excuse in court btw. It all boils down to not updating ICA. Even worse if there is wilful abuse of the mechanism to evade tax and obtain unjust (per written law, not individual opinion) benefits.

 

[DragonFire]

if its renting out before MOP by locking 1 room, reporting him will make his $500 voucher very expensive...

GG bro. The flat can be seized for doing this. You have powerful leverage over the fellow now.

 

[DragonFire]

got loop hole lah

legal renting out n pay tax no issue imo

There is no real loophole.

If the landlord is staying at the property and renting rooms, or the entire flat but their room, both LL and Singaporean tenants are entitled to claim. Either party can approach CDC to apply for an extra set of vouchers if there is contention. It is better for the less financially stable household to make the manual application as the approval is subject to means related restrictions (per my reading)

If the landlord is legally renting out the entire unit, they won't be able to claim CDC for their address since they should have updated ICA and wouldn't be registered in the system to that address in the first place. I am sure there are grey areas involving the 1 month update window, and start of tenancy agreements. Those can be sorted out at a community center.

 

[Needmysleep]

Nope, landlord locked one bedroom and his registered address is the place I'm renting...

all sorts of illegal stuff there

 

[DragonFire]

Haaah. The irony in all this is that some tenants - especially Singaporean family units - are likely landlords themselves.

 

[Unic0rn]

Who is the legal owner of the property?

 

[mp4005 help]

From this discussion,

It looks like many landlords have violated some laws unknowingly while some have knowingly taking advantage of the CDC scheme. #ICA #CDC Please spare some time to educate the people and rein in some triers of the system here…it’s raiding the resources for those that claim when they should not be!

they know. they think just because everyone else doing it i also do.
can free money who don't want?

i know people who put address in their 2 room BTO but stay with kids in landed. never rent out but buy cheap then just go back once in a while to clean up. Get maximum free money from government but enjoy landed life. then after MOP , sell and make big money.

with cameras now everywhere - can they use AI to check if people enter the door and leave? so make sure that people STAY there during MOP?

 

[8zaoyu]

As per my earlier post #30, you can go through the 2nd paragraph

• What should I do if my household’s vouchers have already been claimed by someone else?
  If someone else has claimed the vouchers, the page will display the name of the family member who has claimed the vouchers on behalf of the household after you have completed the login with Singpass. You may wish to check with that household member.
  Should the individual belong to another household staying at the same address, please visit your nearest CC to apply for the CDC Vouchers. Please bring along the following supporting documents: your NRIC, and any one of the relevant documents to show proof of household (e.g proof of previous overseas employment / proof of overseas address / tenancy agreement / proof of new resident e.g. taking/handing over keys)

CDC vouchers are 1 set per HOUSEHOLD, NOT per ADDRESS

If landlord staying together with 2 other household of at least 1 sinkie each = total 3 households
Just show proof of tenancy agreement, utilities/mobile bill address etc

It is damn obvious why the govt did not put this particular popular scenario in the FAQ prominently in the news or writeup, because maybe they are hoping that the tenants will give up the hope of getting the vouchers so they can save on the amount!!!!

Declare to the world they are giving out S$XXXmillion of CDC vouchers, but actually only disburse a fraction of it.

Household = a marrried couple where one must be an SC.
Most couples awaiting their HDB/EC (yet to get) are mostly yet to register their marriages (can split up) yet. Buying pte properties don't need to be a household aka married couple, can be sharing singles.
The pt is still household, but if got 3 bedrms rent 2 bedrooms to SC "married" couples? More likely to rent to single PRs and FTs with FIN nos. only no Singpass

 

[Jurchen King]

TS is only tenant, not owner. Nothing wrong for owner to claim the CDC vouchers since it's registered under his/her name in HDB records.

 

[Goodshot]

There is no real loophole.

If the landlord is staying at the property and renting rooms, or the entire flat but their room, both LL and Singaporean tenants are entitled to claim. Either party can approach CDC to apply for an extra set of vouchers if there is contention. It is better for the less financially stable household to make the manual application as the approval is subject to means related restrictions (per my reading)

If the landlord is legally renting out the entire unit, they won't be able to claim CDC for their address since they should have updated ICA and wouldn't be registered in the system to that address in the first place. I am sure there are grey areas involving the 1 month update window, and start of tenancy agreements. Those can be sorted out at a community center.

So the govt law is set by u ?

 

[ctstalin]

TS is only tenant, not owner. Nothing wrong for owner to claim the CDC vouchers since it's registered under his/her name in HDB records.

Another wrong answer