esim discussion

[froztheart]

If customers are satisfied, that's good for business too, and they can justify investment in tech based on real ROI. As it is, businesses must have come out with bogus justification for investing in poorly implemented tech.

But I was earlier speaking from customer's pov.

Since when did corporations care about customer satisfaction in this current times.

 

[rest1ess]

Since when did corporations care about customer satisfaction in this current times.

I'm cynical too, especially after all the useless customer surveys asked to do but still service sux.

 

[Eggdrop]

Was wondering if it is possible to have 2 esim active concurrently on iPhone 15? Anyone knows?

 

[wirelesslink]

Was wondering if it is possible to have 2 esim active concurrently on iPhone 15? Anyone knows?

yes it is possible

 

[Eggdrop]

yes it is possible

Thank u!

 

[xonix]

Was wondering if it is possible to have 2 esim active concurrently on iPhone 15? Anyone knows?

https://support.apple.com/en-sg/109317

 

[007Mi6]

Was wondering if it is possible to have 2 esim active concurrently on iPhone 15? Anyone knows?

for Local SG iPhone 15 sets, can have 2 active eSIM

 

[elvintay07]

Apart from SingTel, Gomo, Vivifi and the useless M1, which other telco have e-sim? The issue is the changing of sim-card. If they charge for every e-sim, then we have an issue.

 

[froztheart]

Apart from SingTel, Gomo, Vivifi and the useless M1, which other telco have e-sim? The issue is the changing of sim-card. If they charge for every e-sim, then we have an issue.

MR, SH, CL.
Most do charge for subsequent eSIM issuance.

 

[elvintay07]

MR, SH, CL.
Most do charge for subsequent eSIM issuance.

Then doesn’t make sense already

 

[xonix]

Then doesn’t make sense already

Tell that to the iPhone users who keep wishing Apple to release the esim only model in Singapore so that local telco will be forced to start offering esim

 

[elvintay07]

Tell that to the iPhone users who keep wishing Apple to release the esim only model in Singapore so that local telco will be forced to start offering esim

I feel it doesn’t make sense for telco to charge. We doing the scanning and installing of e-Sim. Why need to charge us? Today u buy any e-Sim from Shopee so cheap like $3-4. Don’t tell me we have to pay simi $10.90 for 1 e-Sim installation. Haha

 

[froztheart]

Then doesn’t make sense already

I agree but what can we do since we have no regulation/laws for consumer protection?
SG's telco's nickle and dime as usual.

 

[froztheart]

Tell that to the iPhone users who keep wishing Apple to release the esim only model in Singapore so that local telco will be forced to start offering esim

This is inevitable honestly, since Apple has started the ball rolling in US.
Sooner than later, other brands will follow suit, i.e. Samsung, China brands etc.

 

[elvintay07]

This is inevitable honestly, since Apple has started the ball rolling in US.
Sooner than later, other brands will follow suit, i.e. Samsung, China brands etc.

It is a Singapore thing la. Everything will need to charge. You imagine this. China has 1.1b hp users. If everyone pay $10 to install 1 e-sim, it is 10b. Imagine how big is the market size if everyone change phone every 1-2 year. This exclude some kuku who install wrongly.

 

[froztheart]

It is a Singapore thing la. Everything will need to charge. You imagine this. China has 1.1b hp users. If everyone pay $10 to install 1 e-sim, it is 10b. Imagine how big is the market size if everyone change phone every 1-2 year. This exclude some kuku who install wrongly.

Might be that our market is small thus, the charges levied to try as best to breakeven "cost".
Like you said, bigger markets like China does not have such practicies, but only in SG is there such nonsense.

 

[elvintay07]

Might be that our market is small thus, the charges levied to try as best to breakeven "cost".
Like you said, bigger markets like China does not have such practicies, but only in SG is there such nonsense.

I think greedy businessmen who has no ideas on how to make real money la. Singapore has already progressed to first world country and we still do 3rd world country business practise.

 

[froztheart]

I think greedy businessmen who has no ideas on how to make real money la. Singapore has already progressed to first world country and we still do 3rd world country business practise.

This is the "innovation".

 

[elvintay07]

This is the "innovation".

Best is to bring our dinosaurs to China to learn innovations and new business model.

 

[froztheart]

Best is to bring our dinosaurs to China to learn innovations and new business model.

Too many dinosaurs in SG's corporate scene, especially ex gov linked entities. hahahah