WiFi 7 routers (including WiFi 7 routers without 6GHz band support)

[Kyubi]

Unfortunately Asus only provides two high end quad-band options for the local market. But if you are keen, you can go with either of them to pair with your existing ZenWiFi XT8. Both have two 10G ports.

Asus ROG GT-BE98 at around S$1099
https://rog.asus.com/sg/networking/rog-rapture-gt-be98-model/

Asus ZenWiFi BQ16 at around S$899
https://www.asus.com/sg/networking-...ystem/zenwifi-wifi-systems/asus-zenwifi-bq16/

Waiting for them to release the other models ..

 

[ralfale]

Deco BE50 is another dual band WiFi 7 router listed by TP-Link Singapore as "Coming soon".
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/deco/deco-be25/

5 Gbps Dual-Band WiFi – 4324 Mbps (5 GHz) + 688 Mbps (2.4 GHz).†
2.5 Gbps Wired Connections – 2× 2.5 Gbps ports ensure max flexibility and boosted throughput.

Hi experts, I am currently using a pair of BE65 on 2.5G port. Is it possible to expand the mesh network using this upcoming BE50? Looks like a cheaper alternative compared to buying additional BE65 unit.

 

[xiaofan]

Hi experts, I am currently using a pair of BE65 on 2.5G port. Is it possible to expand the mesh network using this upcoming BE50? Looks like a cheaper alternative compared to buying additional BE65 unit.

You should avoid such combination if you use Wireless Backhaul.
Deco BE65 -- triband
Deco BE50 -- dual band, not good for wireless backhaul.

But if you use Ethernet Backhaul, I think it should work.

 

[keigo2303]

can anyone recommend me a wired router that has the following?

1 x 2.5G WAN for internet
at least 3 x 2.5G for LAN, one for PC, two for U7-Pro.

 

[xonix]

can anyone recommend me a wired router that has the following?

1 x 2.5G WAN for internet
at least 3 x 2.5G for LAN, one for PC, two for U7-Pro.

As in you don't need wireless capability ?

 

[cyberet]

As in you don't need wireless capability ?

yes, hes probably using the 2x U7-Pro as wireless AP

 

[xiaofan]

can anyone recommend me a wired router that has the following?

1 x 2.5G WAN for internet
at least 3 x 2.5G for LAN, one for PC, two for U7-Pro.

1) Are you looking for Ubiquiti based solution?

If yes, you can go with UDM SE + Enterprise 8 PoE
https://sg.store.ui.com/sg/en/collections/unifi-dream-machine
https://sg.store.ui.com/sg/en/colle...hi-power-poe/products/switch-enterprise-8-poe

2) If you are looking for alternative, then you can get those mini PCs with Intel N100 CPU and 4 to 6 2.5G ports and run pfSense/OPNsense/OpenWRT. If you want to be a bit more future proof, you can also get those mini PCs with better CPU (eg: Intel N305) and two SFP+ ports and then add 2.5G switches with SFP+ uplink. Then you are set for 5Gbps and 10Gbps service as well.

 

[OralMaster]

Hi all, have been looking at the Chinese wifi 7 routers as they seems to be pretty good value, I am just wondering if chinese routers have the capability of running wireguard or openVPN? if not, are most of these routers available/will be available to install openWRT in the future?

 

[xiaofan]

Hi all, have been looking at the Chinese wifi 7 routers as they seems to be pretty good value, I am just wondering if chinese routers have the capability of running wireguard or openVPN? if not, are most of these routers available/will be available to install openWRT in the future?

In that case, you have to choose Asus, like Asus RT-BE88U. The Asus Chinese modeles will have Wireguard and OpenVPN support, they also have English FW.

As for OpenWRT support for WiFi 7, I do not know how soon it will come.

The following is just my personal opionion.
1. Most of the mid-range BE6500 and BE7200 rated Chinese WiFI 7 routers are based on Qualcomm IPQ5322 and MediaTek Filogic 860 and I think they will NOT have OpenWRT support any time soon.

2. And those BE3600/BE5000 rated router based on AN7563PT CPU will most likely NEVER have OpenWRT support.

3. ZTE and Huawei modles with their own CPU will also NEVER have OpenWRT support.

4. My reasoning:
1) Qualcomm IPQ5000 and Qualcomm IPQ6000 -- no official OpenWRT support until now.
--> Qualcomm IPQ5322 will likely not get official OpenWRT support

2) Qualcomm IPQ807x has not very good official OpenWRT support (eg: XIaomi AX3600/AX9000)-- IPQ9570/9574 (Xiaomi BE10000) may have OpenWRT support in the future but not any time soon and the support may not be so good.

3) MediaTek Filogic 820/830 have good OpenWRT support -- but not so sure about Filogic 860. I tend to think it will not have the support any time soon.

4) MediaTek Filogic 880 platform may be the first platform to have OpenWRT support for WIFi 7 -- but none of the current Chinese WiFi routers are based on this platform.

 

[tmster]

Does wifi 7 router increase coverage significantly? Using a 2 unit mesh setup now, so wondering if wifi 7 can cover the whole house.

 

[xonix]

Does wifi 7 router increase coverage significantly? Using a 2 unit mesh setup now, so wondering if wifi 7 can cover the whole house.

Every generation of Wi-Fi improvements are mostly in speeds and handling more traffic. Unless you are upgrading an entry level mesh to a newer top range model, you should not see significant difference in coverage. Maybe better speeds and less issues with large number of devices.

 

[tmster]

Every generation of Wi-Fi improvements are mostly in speeds and handling more traffic. Unless you are upgrading an entry level mesh to a newer top range model, you should not see significant difference in coverage. Maybe better speeds and less issues with large number of devices.

Thanks, if there is not much improvement in the wifi range then no point upgrading. Current speed is enough for my work and streaming tv content.

 

[gld998]

Thanks, if there is not much improvement in the wifi range then no point upgrading. Current speed is enough for my work and streaming tv content.

Upgraded from TP-Link ax73 to TP-Link eb810v.. definitely got difference.

 

[tmster]

Upgraded from TP-Link ax73 to TP-Link eb810v.. definitely got difference.

Interesting. Does it improve the wifi strength significantly? Especially furthest parts of the house away from router?

 

[xiaofan]

Interesting. Does it improve the wifi strength significantly? Especially furthest parts of the house away from router?

What is your current mesh model? What is the WiFi 7 router model you are looking at?

Every generation of Wi-Fi improvements are mostly in speeds and handling more traffic. Unless you are upgrading an entry level mesh to a newer top range model, you should not see significant difference in coverage. Maybe better speeds and less issues with large number of devices.

Upgraded from TP-Link ax73 to TP-Link eb810v.. definitely got difference.

TP-Link EB810v is a higher tier model compared to TP-Link Archer AX73, with much faster CPU and better WiFi chipset, and probably better antenna design as well.

Most of the current generation true WiFi 7 routers (with 6GHz band) local version sold in Singapore are high end models as of now with 10G port (with a few exceptions like TP-Link Archer BE550 and Deco BE65).

Asus Singapore -- only two high end models offered, ROG GT-BE98 and ZenWiFi BQ16
Netgear Singapore -- only highes end model as of now: Orbi 970
TP-Link Singapore -- mostly high end models as of now, with exception of Archer BE550 and Deco BE65.

TP-Link EB810v (Starhub) and TP-Link HB810 (Singtel) are actually high end models with dual 10G ports, even though they are service provide models locked to the ISPs for firmware updates. TP-Link Archer BE805 (MR) is not locked to MR but a consumer model. These three may have lower price in Carousell but they are still belonging to the higher end.

 

[elmariachi]

Anyone knows the difference between Asus BE98 and BE25000? They appear to be 2 different products. I cannot find BE25000 on Singapore Asus site though. Thanks in advance!

 

[xiaofan]

Anyone knows the difference between Asus BE98 and BE25000? They appear to be 2 different products. I cannot find BE25000 on Singapore Asus site though. Thanks in advance!

I believe they are the same. You may want to call Asus Singapore or MR to confirm.

Asus ROG GT-BE98 -- general model
Asus ROG GT-BE25000 -- from MR.

MR website about the Asus ROG GT-BE25000: you can see it is the same and MR also quotes S$1099 price.
https://myrepublic.net/sg/gamer-10gbps-rog-be25000/

 

[elmariachi]

I believe they are the same. You may want to call Asus Singapore or MR to confirm.

Asus ROG GT-BE98 -- general model
Asus ROG GT-BE25000 -- from MR.

Thank you Xiaofan. If that is the case, BE25000 from MR means firmware comes from MR? Pointless and might as well consider the BE98 then.

 

[xiaofan]

Thank you Xiaofan. If that is the case, BE25000 from MR means firmware comes from MR? Pointless and might as well consider the BE98 then.

I do not think so. The firmware will still come from Asus. You can always check with Asus and MR to confirm.

I think it is Asus's business strategy to differentiate the sales channel.

For example, Asus RT-AX3000 (MR model) is basically the same as RT-AX58U (general model). Asus RT-AX3000P (M1 model) is baseically the same as RT-AX57 (general model).

 

[elmariachi]

I do not think so. The firmware will still come from Asus. You can always check with Asus and MR.

I think it is Asus's business strategy to differentiate the sales channel.

For example, Asus RT-AX3000 (MR model) is basically the same as RT-AX58U (general model). Asus RT-AX3000P (M1 model) is baseically the same as RT-AX57 (general model).

Yeah I think so too. Cause both use the same latest firmware for both models. I am only curious if there is any locking of the router to MR network or stuff like that. I think will call MR to check.