SIMBA Fibre Broadband

[blue00]

Is there any other charges I heard must pay extra $10 mthly for netlink trust etc on top of 29.99

 

[xiaofan]

If I subscribe to Simba 10 Gpbs Broadband and connect to Linksys WHW0301 router, will my router work? I just want cheaper monthly subscription.

Yes it will work. With the old WiFi 5 Linksys WHW0301 router, you just use the 10Gbps plan as 1Gbps plan.

On the other hand, Whizcomms 2.5Gbps plan at S$21.80 per month may be cheaper if you just want to have cheaper monthly subscribption.
https://whizcomms.com.sg/fibreplus-2-5gbps/

 

[xiaofan]

Looks like theres no point having a 2.5g plan. Just say only got 10g.

I suppose the only reason to stay on the non upgraded plan is for the lower price rate. With more users sucking at the pipe 10g is unlikely to deliver.

I think they are still on trial at these ready area zone.

"I acknowledge that i am interested in SIMBA 10Gbps Broadband. I understand this is not a final confirmation of availability from SIMBA "

For example, in my area (west side), only 2.5Gbps plan is avavailable, 10Gbps is not available.

It is not bad though, you input your address and SIMBA will tell you which plan is available.

 

[xiaofan]

Is there any other charges I heard must pay extra $10 mthly for netlink trust etc on top of 29.99

No extra S$10 NLT monthly charges. For other potential charges, you may want to check the Critical Information Summary and Terms and Conditions.
https://simba.sg/broadband

Please also check out the FAQ.
1. How much do I need to pay for SIMBA 10Gbps Broadband?
https://support.simba.sg/hc/en-us/a...h-do-I-need-to-pay-for-SIMBA-10Gbps-Broadband

SIMBA 10Gbps Broadband is at $29.99 per 30 days.

New customers can currently enjoy:

One-time waiver of $61.04 Netlink Trust Service Activation Charge; and
One-time free $118.00 Optical Network Terminal device self-install

2. How much do I need to pay for SIMBA 2.5Gbps Broadband?
https://support.simba.sg/hc/en-us/a...-do-I-need-to-pay-for-SIMBA-2-5Gbps-Broadband

SIMBA 2.5Gbps Broadband is at $29.99 per 30 days.

New customers can enjoy:

One-time waiver of $61.04 Netlink Trust Service Activation Charge; and
One-time free $50.00 Optical Network Terminal (ONT) device self-install
SIMBA 2.5Gbps Broadband subscribers can enjoy a free upgrade to our 10Gbps broadband and a 10Gbps ONT device worth $118.00.

 

[xiaofan]

Suppose to schedule for NLT appoint then, received email from SIMBA and stated "no available fibre port" ?

Currently, on used 1 TP point for another service provider

It could be there is another ISP occupying the port since they forgot to unregister the port from NLT. You can check with SIMBA to see which ISP is that and then you can request that ISP to unregister the port from NLT.

 

[dgeralds]

Yes it will work. With the old WiFi 5 Linksys WHW0301 router, you just use the 10Gbps plan as 1Gbps plan.

On the other hand, Whizcomms 2.5Gbps plan at S$21.80 per month may be cheaper if you just want to have cheaper monthly subscribption.
https://whizcomms.com.sg/fibreplus-2-5gbps/

After subscribing to whizcomms, it is just unpugging from current M1 ONT and plugging onto whizcomms ONR? Thank you.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Yes it will work. With the old WiFi 5 Linksys WHW0301 router, you just use the 10Gbps plan as 1Gbps plan.

On the other hand, Whizcomms 2.5Gbps plan at S$21.80 per month may be cheaper if you just want to have cheaper monthly subscribption.
https://whizcomms.com.sg/fibreplus-2-5gbps/

I think Simba has also done their pricing research. For Whizcomms, one needs to pay for the NLT and etc charges and the total average over a year is actually the same as Simba.

 

[xiaofan]

I think Simba has also done their pricing research. For Whizcomms, one needs to pay for the NLT and etc charges and the total average over a year is actually the same as Simba.

As long as you have done the calculation, that is okay.

We still have no information about the stability of SIMBA 10Gbps though. Stability is more important than speed.

And you may also need to check if CGNAT is an issue for you or not.

Reference post -- the following may be applicable for SIMBA 10Gbps plan as well.
Comparison of SIMBA 2.5Gbps vs Whizcomms 2.5Gbps plan
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...nd-whizcomm-boradband.6984714/#post-150697339

 

[Tom Sawyer]

As long as you have done the calculation, that is okay.

We still have no information about the stability of SIMBA 10Gbps though. Stability is more important than speed.

And you may also need to check if CGNAT is an issue for you or not.

Reference post -- the following may be applicable for SIMBA 10Gbps plan as well.
Comparison of SIMBA 2.5Gbps vs Whizcomms 2.5Gbps plan
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...nd-whizcomm-boradband.6984714/#post-150697339

Thanks xiaofan. You have been a fantastic and helpful guru in this forum. I have, in fact, learnt a lot from your contributions.

 

[falcoroy]

argh! i just sign up 2.5g plan last week @ kaki bukit with the NYP promo code. the staff told me no 10g plan for residential.. and got email tat NLT installation on 2Aug.. so wat will happen to my sign up? free upgrade to 10g plan with increase in fees? or stick with 2.5g @ $21.80?

PS~ the system already made me paid 6mths advance and $106+ for installation.

 

[dgeralds]

My area (sengkang) Simba 2.5 / 10 Gpbs both $29.99. No more $20 plan. I think I better stick with M1 as Simba's reliability and stability is not proven. Also sombody posted the below in reditt

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I emailed their support to enquire on port forwarding.

“SIMBA does not offer support for specialized configurations like Port Forwarding, Web Hosting, Home Cameras setting on our Fiber Broadband service. Our installers will only ensure that general web surfing works.”

 

[Tom Sawyer]

argh! i just sign up 2.5g plan last week @ kaki bukit with the NYP promo code. the staff told me no 10g plan for residential.. and got email tat NLT installation on 2Aug.. so wat will happen to my sign up? free upgrade to 10g plan with increase in fees? or stick with 2.5g @ $21.80?

PS~ the system already made me paid 6mths advance and $106+ for installation.

Be careful here. If they offer you free upgrade to 10Gbps with increase in fees, would you take it?

The issue is, you have paid for NLT and etc of over $100 but the new subscribers need not pay for those... Unless they compensate you.

Also, the facts is both will pay the same amount a month (averaging over a year) and do you really need 10Gbps?

There are many unknowns with Simba. Why are they pricing 2.5Gbps and 10Gbps to be the same? Are they phasing out 2.5Gbps? Or, are they secretly increasing 2.5Gbps to $29.99 now and later on, increase 10Gbps further to $39.99?

 

[xiaofan]

After subscribing to whizcomms, it is just unpugging from current M1 ONT and plugging onto whizcomms ONR? Thank you.

It should work but you will be under Double NAT.
WC ONR is the main router in the network. Your ccurrent router will be the secondary router.

More about Double NAT:
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-double-NAT-and-why-is-it-bad
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/6277579?hl=en-SG

Double NAT will not cause problem for typical web surfing and media streaming, but may cause issues with VPN and gaming. It will depend on your use case.

If you want to get rid of Double NAT, you have to set up your router in AP mode (and lose majority of the non-wireless firmware function of the router). This is one rrason why power users do not like ONR. Some power users will even try to bridge the ONR or replace the ONR with GPON ONU. If you do not care about the firmware function, then it is better to set the router in AP mode.

More about ONT vs ONR here.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...cs-of-home-networking.6653421/#post-138363236

 

[Mancunian2]

My area (sengkang) Simba 2.5 / 10 Gpbs both $29.99. No more $20 plan. I think I better stick with M1 as Simba's reliability and stability is not proven. Also sombody posted the below in reditt

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I emailed their support to enquire on port forwarding.

“SIMBA does not offer support for specialized configurations like Port Forwarding, Web Hosting, Home Cameras setting on our Fiber Broadband service. Our installers will only ensure that general web surfing works.”

a few minutes ago, just heard SIMBA advertisement on spotify, offering 2.5 Gbps at $20

 

[Nefalrin]

Why are people getting this Simba 2.5gbps ?

Most device now are capped at 1gbps. Even a slight incompatibility will cap the whole home network to 1gbps.

 

[morimorimori]

I think the ads are leftover credit from before they announced new pricing.

 

[xiaofan]

Why are people getting this Simba 2.5gbps ?

Most device now are capped at 1gbps. Even a slight incompatibility will cap the whole home network to 1gbps.

Low price. SIMBA 2.5Gbps/10Gbps plan at S$29.99 are cheaper than other ISP's plans (except WC 2.5Gbps plan at S$21.80 per month). The next tier is M1 500Mbps plan at S$30.45 for new sign-up (or legacy Starhub 500Mbps plan at S$30.45 for existing users who do not want to upgrade).

You can also ask the same questions for those who subscribe to 5Gbps/10Gbps plans. Most of them do not need 5Gbps/10Gbps (no real use cases), but they may still have good reasons to do that.

1) After the calculation, they may find the 5Gbps/10Gbps cheaper or only slightly more expensive than their existing 1Gbps plans.
Example: Good contents bundle from Starhub (EPL) makes it cheaper to go with Starhub 10Gbps plan. Same for the contents bundle from Starhub Homehub+ 10Gbps plan for those who need Starhub TV+ packs.

Singtel has also contents bundling for 5Gbps/10Gbps plan.

2) Some people may like to try out new things. The price of 5Gbps/10Gbps plan have gone down so they are willing to do that. VQ has even come out with the XGS-PON ONU Stick for its 3Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plan for power users who want to get rid of ONT.

3) Only a very small portion have the real use cases for 10Gbps.

 

[Nefalrin]

Low price. SIMBA 2.5Gbps/10Gbps plan at S$29.99 are cheaper than other ISP's plans (except WC 2.5Gbps plan at S$21.80 per month). The next tier is M1 500Mbps plan at S$30.45 for new sign-up (or legacy Starhub 500Mbps plan at S$30.45 for existing users who do not want to upgrade).

You can also ask the same questions for those who subscribe to 5Gbps/10Gbps plans. Most of them do not need 5Gbps/10Gbps (no real use cases), but they may still have good reasons to do that.

1) After the calculation, they may find the 5Gbps/10Gbps cheaper or only slightly more expensive than their existing 1Gbps plans.
Example: Good contents bundle from Starhub (EPL) makes it cheaper to go with Starhub 10Gbps plan. Same for the contents bundle from Starhub Homehub+ 10Gbps plan for those who need Starhub TV+ packs.

Singtel has also contents bundling for 5Gbps/10Gbps plan.

2) Some people may like to try out new things. The price of 5Gbps/10Gbps plan have gone down so they are willing to do that. VQ has even come out with the XGS-PON ONU Stick for its 3Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plan for power users who want to get rid of ONT.

3) Only a very small portion have the real use cases for 10Gbps.

This contract is 30 days plan and price may increase without notice one ..

Better becareful ..

 

[xiaofan]

This contract is 30 days plan and price may increase without notice one ..

Better becareful ..

No, it is 360 days contract.
https://simba.sg/broadband

Please read the Critial Information Summary in SIMBA webpage.
https://simba.sg/static/media/CISBroadband.bb9bbd66.pdf
https://simba.sg/static/media/CISBroadband10.6cf91326.pdf

The minimum contract period for our Services is 360 days.

That being said, take note I do not recommend SIMBA as the main internet service of now due to unknown stability. It is perfectly fine as a secondary service.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...nd-whizcomm-boradband.6984714/#post-150697339

 

[Nefalrin]

No, it is 360 days contract.
https://simba.sg/broadband

Please read the Critial Information Summary in SIMBA webpage.
https://simba.sg/static/media/CISBroadband.bb9bbd66.pdf
https://simba.sg/static/media/CISBroadband10.6cf91326.pdf


That being said, take note I do not recommend SIMBA as the main internet service of now due to unknown stability. It is perfectly fine as a secondary service.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...nd-whizcomm-boradband.6984714/#post-150697339

Although is a 1 year contract plan but can terminate as and when you like.

So therefore the price also can change as and when they like ..