Starhub UltraSpeed 3Gbps/5Gbps/10Gbps plans

[Henry Ng]

You do not need the switch if you do not need the other room LAN ports to be functional.

ONT -- HB710 in DB box (10G WAN port)

HB710 10G LAN port -- patch panel -- Living Room LAN port -- HB410 in Living Room

The catch is that all your other bedroom LAN ports will not be functional.

Unless he upgrade to EB810 or buy a 10G switch.

 

[blurnard]

You do not need the switch if you do not need the other room LAN ports to be functional.

ONT -- HB710 in DB box (10G WAN port)

HB710 10G LAN port -- patch panel -- Living Room LAN port -- HB410 in Living Room

The catch is that all your other bedroom LAN ports will not be functional.

For now, I only need 2 routers

other lan ports not required at this moment…

small house

 

[dicxz80]

Does SH still offer "free" relocation when you are in contract?

 

[xiaofan]

Does SH still offer "free" relocation when you are in contract?

You can double confirm with Starhub but the website says not free, at S$122.24 and requires advance notice of 2 weeks).

https://www.starhub.com/personal/broadband/other-charges.html

All Service-Related Charges​
Installation Fee (Per computer connection)	$91.68
Installation of 3rd Party device┴ (Per device connection)	$54.50
Delivery Fee (Per trip to the same service address)	$13.08
Service Call Base Charge (Per computer connection. Additional equipment/material costs are extra and quoted on site)	$41.42
Service Call Transportation Charge (Per trip to the same service address)	$13.08
Service Activation Fee	$61.04
Voluntary Suspension Fee (Per broadband service)	$16.35/month (Non-prorated)
Reconnection Fee (For reinstatement of service) Applicable for involuntary suspension only. A service call of $53.50 is applicable if customer requests for re-installation of equipment at his/her premise.	$16.35
Reconnection Fee (For reconnection to the network) Applicable for Cable Broadband only.	$218
Optical Fibre Termination Point Installation (High Rise - Condo or HDB)	$182.03
Optical Fibre Termination Point Installation (Landed)	$333.54
Relocation Fee (Per request to change residential service address. Advance notice of 2 weeks is required)	$122.24
Fibre Service Cancellation Charge	$239.80 (High rise)
Fibre Service Cancellation Charge (If before ready-for-service date)	$490.50 (Landed)
Additional Fibre Cable After initial 15m from fibre entry point (for Pre-COPIF 2013 buildings) After initial 25m from fibre entry point (for COPIF 2013 buildings)	$2.18 (per 5m)
Equipment Deposit (Per Fibre Broadband service for use of the Optical Network Terminal (ONT). Applicable only to Long-Term Social Visit Pass (LTSVP) and Passport holders)	$250.00
Loss or Damage of Equipment (Per Optical Network Terminal)	$239.80
Loss or Damage of Equipment (Per Voice-enabled Optical Network Terminal)	$261.60
Loss or Damage of Equipment (Per reactivation of each Optical Network Terminal)	$87.20
Late Payment Fee	$5.45
Returned Cheque Fee	$5.45
Fibre Termination Point Relocation, Repair and Replacement and Removal Fee^ (High Rise - Condo or HDB)	$184.21
Fibre Termination Point Relocation, Repair and Replacement and Removal Fee^ (Landed)	$336.81

NOTE:

• ┴Supported devices: Personal Computer, Laptop, Printers, Scanners, Smart Phones, Web Cameras (consumer-grade) excluding DVR Surveillance Cameras, Routers (Supported brands: Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, Nokia, TP-Link, Asus). All devices are configured with best effort only.

 

[habibali]

You can use your RT-AX86U if you prefer, take note it has only one 2.5G port. You can configure the 2.5G port as WAN port to utilize the Starhub 5Gbps service as a 2.5Gbps service. Wired devices will still be limited to 1Gbps though since the LAN ports are capable 1Gbps only.

Technically you can get >1Gbps WiFi speed if you have good WiFi 6/6E/7 client with 160MHz channel bandwidth support on the 5GHz band.

You can also set up Link Aggregation if you have devices support that to get close to 1.8Gbps Wired speed by combining two LAN ports. But I guess this is probably not necessary for your use case.


BTW, it is S$29.55 and not S$29.90 per month offer.

Thank you sir. I will stick to AX86U maybe next year upgrade hehe.

 

[zzxxzzxx]

Thank you sir. I will stick to AX86U maybe next year upgrade hehe.

Use whichever equipment you feel it’s great for your needs.
At least you’re paying less then your current 1gbps.

if can sell the HB710. Sell first. 6 months down. It will be relatively cheap if u want to buy and use.

 

[Lynxlok94]

You do not need the switch if you do not need the other room LAN ports to be functional.

ONT -- HB710 in DB box (10G WAN port)

HB710 10G LAN port -- patch panel -- Living Room LAN port -- HB410 in Living Room

The catch is that all your other bedroom LAN ports will not be functional.

What's the difference between having HB710 connected to ONT in DB box VS having the HB710 elsewhere and connected to LAN port (e.g. in living room TV console)?

Trooper came down to setup yesterday and set it up as below:
ONT in DB Box - fibre cable only
HB710 in living room TV console - connected to LAN port
HB710 in common room - no LAN port connection

 

[xiaofan]

What's the difference between having HB710 connected to ONT in DB box VS having the HB710 elsewhere and connected to LAN port (e.g. in living room TV console)?

Trooper came down to setup yesterday and set it up as below:
ONT in DB Box - fibre cable only
HB710 in living room TV console - connected to LAN port
HB710 in common room - no LAN port connection

1) Trooper installation --> Wireless Backhaul between the two HB710.

Wireless backhaul is not recommended unless you have no LAN ports in the rooms, or your DB box blocks WiFi badly (eg: metal door, with mirror, etc).

2) ONT + main HB710 in the DB Box --> Ethernet Backhaul between the two HB710.

 

[Lynxlok94]

1) Trooper installation --> Wireless Backhaul between the two HB710.

Wireless backhaul is not recommended unless you have no LAN ports in the rooms, or your DB box blocks WiFi badly (eg: metal door, with mirror, etc).

2) HB710 in the DB Box --> Ethernet Backhaul between the two HB710.

Appreciate the near instantaneous response lol.
So I could try placing 1 HB710 in DB box, Ethernet to ONT.
And then for the HB710 in common room, connected to LAN port in room and it should theoretically give better speeds?

Does it matter whether it's the WAN/LAN port or the LAN port?

 

[kakaBoBo]

is this plan cgnat?

 

[xiaofan]

is this plan cgnat?

No.

CGNAT with static IPv4 add-on: VQ and MR

CGNAT without static IPv4 add-on, but with IPv6: SIMBA

Not using CGNAT, dynamic public IPv4 address: SingTel/M1/Starhub/Whizcomms.

 

[xiaofan]

Appreciate the near instantaneous response lol.
So I could try placing 1 HB710 in DB box, Ethernet to ONT.
And then for the HB710 in common room, connected to LAN port in room and it should theoretically give better speeds?

Does it matter whether it's the WAN/LAN port or the LAN port?

Yes you can try the experiment to see if you get better results or not.

ONT to the main HB710 WAN port (must be WAN port).

Main HB710 LAN port to patch panel.

Normally you connect the secondary HB710 WAN port to the room LAN port. But I believe it does not matter in this case. LAN port may well work as well. Still I will recommend to use WAN port to be consistent.

 

[Henry Ng]

No.

CGNAT with static IPv4 add-on: VQ and MR

CGNAT without static IPv4 add-on, but with IPv6: SIMBA

Not using CGNAT, dynamic public IPv4 address: SingTel/M1/Starhub/Whizcomms.

SH also got IPv6

 

[facw]

StarHub set up the 5Gbps broadband at my parents place today. Nokia modem and TP Link HB710 as the wifi router.
Previously, was in their 500 Mbps plan where I set up TP Link Deco X50 and M5 mesh.
Now, my research so far tells me the X50 and M5 nodes are useless now; can’t mesh with Aginet Mesh.
Questions: is that true? The deco units are useless.
What TP Link products can be used to make a mesh network with HB710?
I loathe to get another HB710; it’s a tad bulky…

 

[Lynxlok94]

Yes you can try the experiment to see if you get better results or not.

ONT to the main HB710 WAN port (must be WAN port).

Main HB710 LAN port to patch panel.

Normally you connect the secondary HB710 WAN port to the room LAN port. But I believe it does not matter in this case. LAN port may well work as well. Still I will recommend to use WAN port to be consistent.

Is there some way I can check whether my 2nd HB710 is connected by wireless or wired backhaul? Not sure which BR is 2 and which is 3 for the ports

edit: found that I can see from config page. Thanks xiaofan!

 

[xiaofan]

StarHub set up the 5Gbps broadband at my parents place today. Nokia modem and TP Link HB710 as the wifi router.
Previously, was in their 500 Mbps plan where I set up TP Link Deco X50 and M5 mesh.
Now, my research so far tells me the X50 and M5 nodes are useless now; can’t mesh with Aginet Mesh.
Questions: is that true? The deco units are useless.
What TP Link products can be used to make a mesh network with HB710?
I loathe to get another HB710; it’s a tad bulky…

True if you want to use seamless roaming. TP-Link Deco Mesh and TP-Link EasyMesh are not compatible in terms of mesh technology.

Another HB710 (S$192) is probably the cheapest if you need to use wireless backhaul (triband TP-Link EasyMesh compatible router recommended to mesh with HB710).

Starhub will recommend you to mesh HB710 with another HB710 or EB810v (much bigger than HB710).

If you can use Ethernet backhaul, then there are cheaper options like HB410, Archer BE230, Archer AX72, EX520 and EX510 (dual band WiFi 7 or WiFi 6 router).
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/wifi-router/?filterby=6271

HB710 --> 128 × 128 × 236 mm (10G capable, triband BE18000)
HB410 --> 107.5 × 107.5 × 176 mm (2.5G capable, dual band BE6500)
Archer BE230 --> 343.4 x 234 x 99 mm (2.5G capable, dual band BE3600)
EX510/EX520 --> 260.2 × 135.0 × 38.6 mm (junk grade WiFi 6 router, 1G capable)

 

[xiaofan]

Is there some way I can check whether my 2nd HB710 is connected by wireless or wired backhaul? Not sure which BR is 2 and which is 3 for the ports

Go into the Web UI and check EasyMesh connection.

 

[facw]

Thank you very much for the quick reply. Need to use wireless backhaul..
goodnight everyone!

 

[zzxxzzxx]

What's the difference between having HB710 connected to ONT in DB box VS having the HB710 elsewhere and connected to LAN port (e.g. in living room TV console)?

Trooper came down to setup yesterday and set it up as below:
ONT in DB Box - fibre cable only
HB710 in living room TV console - connected to LAN port
HB710 in common room - no LAN port connection

If only ONT in DB, with the first HB710 in Living Room connect to WAN (top).
The ONT is connected to the wall which links to the TV console area.
Means your 2nd HB710 in common room is using Wireless Backhaul.

Unless there’s the chance of having 2 Ethernet ports at the TV console.
Then it can connect 1st HB710 LAN (bottom) ports back to DB.
Then DB connect inside to the common room.
Lastly at the common room connect to 2nd HB710 to WAN.

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Wireless Backhaul is also ok if the 1st HB710 at TV console can have good connection to the 2nd HB710 in the common room.

 

[zzxxzzxx]

StarHub set up the 5Gbps broadband at my parents place today. Nokia modem and TP Link HB710 as the wifi router.
Previously, was in their 500 Mbps plan where I set up TP Link Deco X50 and M5 mesh.
Now, my research so far tells me the X50 and M5 nodes are useless now; can’t mesh with Aginet Mesh.
Questions: is that true? The deco units are useless.
What TP Link products can be used to make a mesh network with HB710?
I loathe to get another HB710; it’s a tad bulky…

The Deco(S) can still be used as AP instead.
Using wireless or wired. But not as MESH.
Basically they’ll be 2 different Wifi SSID (or more)

If your HB710 is inside the DB. You only have 1 LAN outlet to connect to 1 device or room.

Not sure how was your old connection when using the Deco.