Fastest ISP?

[SkyShroud]

Lucky. From moi M1 in west area to local VPS is 6ms + overhead. Reach M1 POP already 3ms.

Pinging 103.167.150.90 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 103.167.150.90: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55
Reply from 103.167.150.90: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55
Reply from 103.167.150.90: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 103.167.150.90: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 103.167.150.90:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 6ms

You got do traceroute and complain m1?

 

[ieatcable]

The above results were from 3 Feb 2024 using Singtel 1Gbps plan.

The following results are from today's test using Singtel 5Gbps plan and using wireless, the wireless router used is Asus TUF-BE6500.

This tool is better overall if not china focused. https://globalping.io/

Some samples.

Note: Routes are not fixed, sometimes you can get a different ping if you change to a different IP block. Colouring is based on what I personally deem as not so good or unacceptable, some may have a different idea of what is good or not.

 

[ieatcable]

This tool is better overall if not china focused. https://globalping.io/

Some samples.

Note: Routes are not fixed, sometimes you can get a different ping if you change to a different IP block. Colouring is based on what I personally deem as not so good or unacceptable, some may have a different idea of what is good or not.

One thing I noticed is SH and M1 are very similar the routes that they advertise. I think SH has the edge over M1 in EU due to SH uplink seems to go through their own network if the destination ASN routes are sucks.

ST seems to mostly routes within their own international network backbone and only use Tier 1 for short haul interconnect, which is beneficial only for China. Their routing to other countries are not the most impressive They have terrible ping to some smaller SG providers because they refuse to peer locally in our top IXs unlike SH or M1 and they prefer interconnect at HK or USA.

You got do traceroute and complain m1?

Nope. Complain 3ms only nia. The thing is I not sure if other ISPs in the area also have the same ping. Could well be NLT infra not so well connected here.

 

[xiaofan]

I like the following tools as well.

This is a more comprehensive test using OOkla SpeeedTest
https://github.com/su-haris/simple-network-speedtest
https://nws.sh/

You may want to modify the script if you are not happy about data collection.

Sample results from my Singtel 5Gbps internet connection, using Intel N100 mini PC running Ubuntu 24.04 (10G capable with dual SFP+ ports based on Intel 82599ES chipset).

A lot of data will be used for the test. Do not carry out the test using mobile data connection.
Total DL Data : 121.29 GB
Total UL Data : 39.45 GB
Total Data : 160.74 GB

---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
      A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Version            : v2024.09.11
 Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
 Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic System Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 CPU Model          : Intel(R) N100
 CPU Cores          : 4 @ 1500.860 MHz
 CPU Cache          : 6144 KB
 AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
 VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
 Total Disk         : 233.7 GB (36.8 GB Used)
 Total RAM          : 7.5 GB (1.1 GB Used)
 Total Swap         : 4.0 GB (0 Used)
 System uptime      : 0 days, 19 hour 5 min
 Load average       : 0.19, 0.20, 0.18
 OS                 : Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS
 Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
 Kernel             : 6.8.0-44-generic
 Virtualization     : NONE
 TCP Control        : cubic
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic Network Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Primary Network    : IPv6
 IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
 IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
 ISP                : Singapore Telecommunications Ltd, Magix Services
 ASN                : AS9506 Singtel Fibre Broadband
 Host               : Singapore Telecommunications Ltd, Magix Services
 Location           : Singapore, South East-04, Singapore
 Location (IPv4)    : Jurong West, Singapore, SG
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server

 ISP: Singtel Fibre

 Nearest          1.77 ms     0.0%    5656.91 Mbps   4983.95 Mbps   Singtel - Singapore

 Kochi, IN        86.88 ms    0.0%    2580.30 Mbps   1072.97 Mbps   Asianet Broadband - Cochin
 Bangalore, IN    FAILED
 Chennai, IN      71.04 ms    N/A     2976.66 Mbps   860.03 Mbps    Jio - Chennai
 Mumbai, IN       75.48 ms    0.0%    2536.62 Mbps   1398.65 Mbps   i3D.net - Mumbai
 Delhi, IN        69.32 ms    0.0%    2574.20 Mbps   1269.84 Mbps   Tata Play Fiber - New Delhi

 Seattle, US      202.49 ms   N/A     1740.28 Mbps   446.07 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA
 Los Angeles, US  175.76 ms   0.0%    1919.60 Mbps   523.83 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA
 Dallas, US       198.11 ms   0.0%    1928.49 Mbps   444.47 Mbps    i3D.net - Dallas, TX
 Miami, US        229.73 ms   N/A     2151.08 Mbps   323.88 Mbps    Dish Wireless - Miami, FL
 New York, US     234.13 ms   0.0%    3122.42 Mbps   466.55 Mbps    GSL Networks - New York, NY
 Toronto, CA      233.43 ms   0.0%    1554.80 Mbps   367.03 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON
 Mexico City, MX  200.72 ms   N/A     1513.79 Mbps   400.43 Mbps    INFINITUM - Mexico City

 London, UK       288.43 ms   0.0%    3240.26 Mbps   345.37 Mbps    VeloxServ Communications - London
 Amsterdam, NL    162.62 ms   0.0%    4675.36 Mbps   660.16 Mbps    31173 Services AB - Amsterdam
 Paris, FR        FAILED
 Frankfurt, DE    236.26 ms   0.0%    1588.56 Mbps   369.92 Mbps    Clouvider Ltd - Frankfurt am Main
 Warsaw, PL       319.97 ms   0.0%    3026.89 Mbps   329.23 Mbps    Play - Warszawa
 Bucharest, RO    269.97 ms   0.0%    2213.47 Mbps   342.54 Mbps    Vodafone Romania Fixed – Bucharest - Bucharest
 Moscow, RU       285.40 ms   0.0%    3357.03 Mbps   383.28 Mbps    RETN - Moscow

 Jeddah, SA       303.24 ms   0.0%    3457.27 Mbps   361.96 Mbps    Saudi Telecom Company
 Dubai, AE        247.69 ms   0.0%    4045.99 Mbps   394.03 Mbps    du - Dubai
 Fujairah, AE     77.61 ms    0.0%    4594.19 Mbps   1355.48 Mbps   e& UAE - Fujairah
 Istanbul, TR     285.07 ms   0.4%    1988.42 Mbps   134.37 Mbps    Turkcell - Istanbul
 Tehran, IR       226.94 ms   0.0%    2588.87 Mbps   406.64 Mbps    Asiatech - Tehran

 Tokyo, JP        185.13 ms   0.0%    4337.14 Mbps   482.23 Mbps    IPA CyberLab 400G - Tokyo
 Shanghai, CU-CN  62.38 ms    0.0%    4235.28 Mbps   1430.57 Mbps   China Unicom 5G - Shanghai
 Nanjing, CT-CN   331.86 ms           658.38 Mbps    FAILED         China Telecom JiangSu 5G - Nanjing
 Hong Kong, CN    39.45 ms    N/A     3619.69 Mbps   2165.72 Mbps   STC - Hong Kong
 Singapore, SG    3.85 ms     0.0%    5467.42 Mbps   4872.02 Mbps   i3D.net - Singapore
 Jakarta, ID      14.13 ms    0.0%    5174.10 Mbps   4737.70 Mbps   PT Solnet Indonesia - Jakarta
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Avg DL Speed       : 3052.54 Mbps
 Avg UL Speed       : 1080.30 Mbps

 Total DL Data      : 121.29 GB
 Total UL Data      : 39.45 GB
 Total Data         : 160.74 GB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Duration           : 15 min 43 sec
 System Time        : 15/09/2024 - 09:06:54 +08
 Total Script Runs  : 80938
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Result             : https://result.nws.sh/r/1726361876_XEYD24_GLOBAL.txt
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[ieatcable]

I like the following tools as well.

Nice. But damn slow to finish

Here is my M1 1Gbps.

---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
      A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Version            : v2025.03.18
 Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
 Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic Network Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Primary Network    : IPv6
 IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
 IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
 ISP                : M1 LIMITED
 ASN                : AS4773 MobileOne Ltd. Mobile/Internet Service Provider Singapore
 Host               : M1 LIMITED
 Location           : Singapore, North West-03, Singapore
 Location (IPv4)    : Ulu Bedok, Singapore, SG
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server

 ISP: M1

 Nearest          3.63 ms     0.0%    941.41 Mbps    940.78 Mbps    MyRepublic Singapore - Singapore

 Kochi, IN        47.81 ms    0.0%    327.11 Mbps    230.29 Mbps    Asianet Broadband - Cochin
 Bangalore, IN    237.00 ms   0.0%    206.51 Mbps    203.77 Mbps    Bharti Airtel Ltd - Bangalore
 Chennai, IN      43.98 ms    0.0%    338.11 Mbps    202.69 Mbps    Jio - Chennai
 Mumbai, IN       75.74 ms    0.0%    939.88 Mbps    474.90 Mbps    Airtel Broadband - Mumbai
 Delhi, IN        76.93 ms    0.0%    940.74 Mbps    516.06 Mbps    Tata Play Fiber - New Delhi

 Seattle, US      160.13 ms   N/A     219.48 Mbps    213.31 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA
 Los Angeles, US  170.03 ms   0.0%    259.07 Mbps    213.88 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA
 Dallas, US       206.41 ms   0.0%    338.59 Mbps    48.52 Mbps     Hivelocity - Dallas, TX
 Miami, US        FAILED
 New York, US     211.87 ms   0.0%    943.18 Mbps    203.45 Mbps    GSL Networks - New York, NY
 Toronto, CA      226.64 ms   0.0%    252.10 Mbps    222.89 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON
 Mexico City, MX  210.17 ms   N/A     246.18 Mbps    216.62 Mbps    INFINITUM - Ciudad de México

 London, UK       228.16 ms   0.0%    331.12 Mbps    213.22 Mbps    VeloxServ Communications - London
 Amsterdam, NL    156.12 ms   0.0%    910.99 Mbps    267.11 Mbps    31173 Services AB - Amsterdam
 Paris, FR        247.23 ms   N/A     867.45 Mbps    201.30 Mbps    Axione - Paris
 Frankfurt, DE    245.57 ms   0.0%    234.53 Mbps    223.28 Mbps    Clouvider Ltd - Frankfurt am Main
 Warsaw, PL       244.07 ms   0.0%    324.27 Mbps    106.02 Mbps    Play - Warszawa
 Bucharest, RO    262.33 ms   0.0%    847.96 Mbps    268.26 Mbps    Vodafone Romania Mobile - Bucharest - Bucharest
 Moscow, RU       192.02 ms           237.86 Mbps    FAILED         t2 Russia - Moscow

 Jeddah, SA       170.12 ms   0.0%    358.56 Mbps    217.70 Mbps    Saudi Telecom Company
 Dubai, AE        78.26 ms    N/A     951.76 Mbps    44.51 Mbps     e& UAE - Dubai
 Istanbul, TR     226.37 ms   0.0%    294.80 Mbps    209.00 Mbps    Turkcell - Istanbul
 Tehran, IR       250.01 ms   0.0%    639.63 Mbps    189.14 Mbps    MCI
 Cairo, EG        265.87 ms   N/A     686.79 Mbps    203.72 Mbps    Orange Egypt - Cairo

 Tokyo, JP        72.84 ms    3.4%    388.40 Mbps    216.56 Mbps    GSL Networks - Tokyo
 Shanghai, CU-CN  376.92 ms   0.0%    523.33 Mbps    171.16 Mbps    China Unicom 5G - Shanghai
 Suzhou, CT-CN    225.27 ms   N/A     3.02 Mbps      217.40 Mbps    China Telecom JiangSu 5G - Suzhou
 Hong Kong, CN    FAILED
 Singapore, SG    5.67 ms     0.0%    940.96 Mbps    940.75 Mbps    NewMedia Express - Singapore
 Jakarta, ID      FAILED - IP has been rate limited. Try again after 1 hour.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Avg DL Speed       : 517.64 Mbps
 Avg UL Speed       : 263.44 Mbps

 Total DL Data      : 19.47 GB
 Total UL Data      : 8.29 GB
 Total Data         : 27.76 GB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Duration           : 14 min 24 sec
 System Time        : 21/04/2025 - 11:56:09 +08
 Total Script Runs  : 108849
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[SkyShroud]

Nope. Complain 3ms only nia. The thing is I not sure if other ISPs in the area also have the same ping. Could well be NLT infra not so well connected here.

6ms is a lot, that is like halfway to KL. GSL nowadays seem to be routing through Starhub to rest of the domestic ISPs, maybe starhub is choking and you can't really complain directly to starhub about it since you not their direct customer.

 

[seowbin]

This tool is better overall if not china focused. https://globalping.io/

Some samples.

Note: Routes are not fixed, sometimes you can get a different ping if you change to a different IP block. Colouring is based on what I personally deem as not so good or unacceptable, some may have a different idea of what is good or not.

how to use globalping.io to come out with the measurement? want to test mine network

 

[ieatcable]

6ms is a lot, that is like halfway to KL. GSL nowadays seem to be routing through Starhub to rest of the domestic ISPs, maybe starhub is choking and you can't really complain directly to starhub about it since you not their direct customer.

Both ways traceroute showing it is direct peering at BBIX SG for M1 <> GSL. Mainly it is because my ping to M1 POP sucks but there is also additional 1.3ms due to link from GSL POP at Equinix SG3 to my VPS provider DC. Which domestic ISP is using SH? From a friend's SingTel broadband, they connect to GSL using Lumen transit which is getting 2ms ping, way lower than mine.

Can anyone else try also to ping 103.167.150.90 from the home router? M1 also can as I am curious if it is my location infra issue.

how to use globalping.io to come out with the measurement? want to test mine network

Haha. Just input up to 2 IPs you want to compare against each other and in the location specify where you want to test.

So you can put `Western Europe,North America" and it will choose randomly any probes they have in those regions. Limit field specifies how many probes they will use.

You can use filters too using "+" to specify the city and even ASN u wanna use for each location for more consistent results. I'm using this filter for example to do the comparison table:

Paris+FR,Free,Gravelines+FR,Amsterdam+NL+SCALEWAY,Milan+IT+Datacamp,Frankfurt+DE+xTom,London+GB+Oracle,Stockholm+SE+AEZA INTERNATIONAL,Los Angeles+US-CA+WebNX,Dallas+US-TX+Psychz Networks,Seattle+US-WA+HostPapa,Montreal+CA+OVH,Shenzhen+CN+ShenZhen Topway Video Communication Co.,Shenzhen+CN+China Mobile Communications Group Co.,China Unicom,China Telecom,Hong Kong+HK+Alibaba (US) Technology Co.,Taipei+TW+HostingInside,Tokyo+JP+xTom Japan,Osaka+JP+The Constant Company,Seoul+KR+Korea Telecom,Sydney+AU+Host Universal Pty

The tests are saved so you can share the link like that https://globalping.io/?measurement=d2hwFBDucKx8iZnq,UMoofy2FvtKOzMuN https://globalping.io/?measurement=5dmlFEsrgE7SW8yB,zTAqx1BRDYDf72Sx

 

[SkyShroud]

Both ways traceroute showing it is direct peering at BBIX SG for M1 <> GSL. Mainly it is because my ping to M1 POP sucks but there is also additional 1.3ms due to link from GSL POP at Equinix SG3 to my VPS provider DC. Which domestic ISP is using SH? From a friend's SingTel broadband, they connect to GSL using Lumen transit which is getting 2ms ping, way lower than mine.

Can anyone else try also to ping 103.167.150.90 from the home router? M1 also can as I am curious if it is my location infra issue.

From my home

traceroute to 103.167.150.90 (103.167.150.90), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  1.128.86.116.starhub.net.sg (116.86.128.1)  1.865 ms  2.138 ms  1.958 ms
 2  an-ts-br05.starhub.net.sg (183.90.44.25)  1.086 ms  183.90.44.21 (183.90.44.21)  1.482 ms  an-ts-br05.starhub.net.sg (183.90.44.25)  1.441 ms
 3  203.116.3-49.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.49)  2.128 ms  203.118.6.37 (203.118.6.37)  1.454 ms  203.116.3-49.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.49)  1.587 ms
 4  203.118.5.74 (203.118.5.74)  14.907 ms  1.133 ms  1.766 ms
 5  pni.globalsecurelayer.com (160.202.164.128)  1.992 ms  1.415 ms  1.866 ms
 6  *  *  *
 7  103.167.150.90 (103.167.150.90)  2.055 ms  2.290 ms  2.902 ms

I trace from my hosthatch server to random m1 address, it actually go by starhub pni.
Why your hosthatch go by IX?

traceroute to 210.193.54.130 (210.193.54.130), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  223.165.7.216 (223.165.7.216)  1.511 ms  1.575 ms  1.553 ms
 3  starhub-pni.globalsecurelayer.com (160.202.164.129)  1.493 ms  1.519 ms  1.492 ms
 4  203.118.5.73 (203.118.5.73)  2.409 ms  2.575 ms  2.077 ms
 5  203.118.7.86 (203.118.7.86)  1.541 ms  1.637 ms  1.571 ms
 6  203.116.245-154.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.245.154)  1.999 ms  1.934 ms  1.951 ms
 7  ae32-a82-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.222)  1.974 ms ae32-a81-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.220)  2.223 ms  2.234 ms
 8  po15-a12-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.103)  2.463 ms po16-a12-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.101)  2.173 ms 130.210-193-54.unknown.qala.com.sg (210.193.54.130)  2.638 ms

You can test my vps 104.234.167.83

 

[xiaofan]

The above results were from 3 Feb 2024 using Singtel 1Gbps plan.

The following results are from today's test using Singtel 5Gbps plan and using wireless, the wireless router used is Asus TUF-BE6500.

Why speed test to China?

Why not?

Anyway, you can ignore the China results if you do not care about that. The above tests also test the latency to other parts of the world.

Did not see got other countries.

Not sure if your eyesight failed or your Chinese failed.

 

[xiaofan]

This tool is better overall if not china focused. https://globalping.io/

Some samples.

Note: Routes are not fixed, sometimes you can get a different ping if you change to a different IP block. Colouring is based on what I personally deem as not so good or unacceptable, some may have a different idea of what is good or not.

Nice one.

Test results for my Singtel WAN IP (Singtel 5Gbps plan).

 

[ieatcable]

From my home

traceroute to 103.167.150.90 (103.167.150.90), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  1.128.86.116.starhub.net.sg (116.86.128.1)  1.865 ms  2.138 ms  1.958 ms
 2  an-ts-br05.starhub.net.sg (183.90.44.25)  1.086 ms  183.90.44.21 (183.90.44.21)  1.482 ms  an-ts-br05.starhub.net.sg (183.90.44.25)  1.441 ms
 3  203.116.3-49.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.49)  2.128 ms  203.118.6.37 (203.118.6.37)  1.454 ms  203.116.3-49.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.49)  1.587 ms
 4  203.118.5.74 (203.118.5.74)  14.907 ms  1.133 ms  1.766 ms
 5  pni.globalsecurelayer.com (160.202.164.128)  1.992 ms  1.415 ms  1.866 ms
 6  *  *  *
 7  103.167.150.90 (103.167.150.90)  2.055 ms  2.290 ms  2.902 ms

I trace from my hosthatch server to random m1 address, it actually go by starhub pni.
Why your hosthatch go by IX?

traceroute to 210.193.54.130 (210.193.54.130), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  223.165.7.216 (223.165.7.216)  1.511 ms  1.575 ms  1.553 ms
 3  starhub-pni.globalsecurelayer.com (160.202.164.129)  1.493 ms  1.519 ms  1.492 ms
 4  203.118.5.73 (203.118.5.73)  2.409 ms  2.575 ms  2.077 ms
 5  203.118.7.86 (203.118.7.86)  1.541 ms  1.637 ms  1.571 ms
 6  203.116.245-154.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.245.154)  1.999 ms  1.934 ms  1.951 ms
 7  ae32-a82-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.222)  1.974 ms ae32-a81-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.220)  2.223 ms  2.234 ms
 8  po15-a12-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.103)  2.463 ms po16-a12-moc.m1net.com.sg (203.211.158.101)  2.173 ms 130.210-193-54.unknown.qala.com.sg (210.193.54.130)  2.638 ms

You can test my vps 104.234.167.83

M1net AS17547 ish business bb different blend from M1 residential AS4773 wor... try 138.75.64.1 which is from AS4773

Start: 2025-04-21T19:41:50+0800
HOST:                                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- _gateway (192.168.1.1)                                    0.0%    10    0.6   0.5   0.4   0.6   0.2
  2.|-- x.x.75.138.unknown.m1.com.sg (138.75.x.x)                 0.0%    10    3.7   7.8   3.1  45.3  13.2
  3.|-- 200.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.200)         0.0%    10    3.5   4.1   2.9   9.1   1.9
  4.|-- 201.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.201)         0.0%    10    3.5   3.4   3.0   3.6   0.2
  5.|-- 38.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.38)           0.0%    10    5.1   8.1   3.9  27.0   7.6
  6.|-- 162.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.162)         0.0%    10   10.7   6.0   4.0  12.0   2.9
  7.|-- 103.231.152.170                                           0.0%    10    3.9   4.0   3.5   4.7   0.4
  8.|-- po7.sg-eqxsg3-cr7.globalsecurelayer.com (206.148.24.205)  0.0%    10    4.8   4.6   3.9   6.3   0.7
  9.|-- e53.sg-eqxsg3-cr3.globalsecurelayer.com (206.148.24.70)   0.0%    10    4.3   4.0   3.7   4.3   0.2
 10.|-- 223.165.7.217                                             0.0%    10  113.0  76.2  22.3 170.0  56.3
 11.|-- 104.234.167.83                                            0.0%    10    5.3   6.0   5.3   6.5   1.0

 

[SkyShroud]

M1net AS17547 ish business bb different blend from M1 residential AS4773 wor... try 138.75.64.1 which is from AS4773

Start: 2025-04-21T19:41:50+0800
HOST:                                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- _gateway (192.168.1.1)                                    0.0%    10    0.6   0.5   0.4   0.6   0.2
  2.|-- x.x.75.138.unknown.m1.com.sg (138.75.x.x)                 0.0%    10    3.7   7.8   3.1  45.3  13.2
  3.|-- 200.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.200)         0.0%    10    3.5   4.1   2.9   9.1   1.9
  4.|-- 201.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.201)         0.0%    10    3.5   3.4   3.0   3.6   0.2
  5.|-- 38.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.38)           0.0%    10    5.1   8.1   3.9  27.0   7.6
  6.|-- 162.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.162)         0.0%    10   10.7   6.0   4.0  12.0   2.9
  7.|-- 103.231.152.170                                           0.0%    10    3.9   4.0   3.5   4.7   0.4
  8.|-- po7.sg-eqxsg3-cr7.globalsecurelayer.com (206.148.24.205)  0.0%    10    4.8   4.6   3.9   6.3   0.7
  9.|-- e53.sg-eqxsg3-cr3.globalsecurelayer.com (206.148.24.70)   0.0%    10    4.3   4.0   3.7   4.3   0.2
 10.|-- 223.165.7.217                                             0.0%    10  113.0  76.2  22.3 170.0  56.3
 11.|-- 104.234.167.83                                            0.0%    10    5.3   6.0   5.3   6.5   1.0

I pinged a random one

traceroute to 112.199.192.74 (112.199.192.74), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  223.165.7.216 (223.165.7.216)  1.499 ms  1.548 ms  1.528 ms
 3  e78.sg-eqxsg3-cr7.globalsecurelayer.com (206.148.24.12)  1.532 ms  1.545 ms  1.610 ms
 4  103.107.199.81 (103.107.199.81)  1.412 ms  1.457 ms  1.189 ms
 5  m1.sgix.sg (103.16.102.27)  2.677 ms  1.613 ms  1.591 ms
 6  156.245.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.245.156)  2.042 ms 49.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.49)  3.754 ms  1.845 ms
 7  206.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg (202.65.246.206)  2.105 ms  2.187 ms  2.129 ms
 8  1.32.245.49.unknown.m1.com.sg (49.245.32.1)  2.315 ms  2.819 ms  2.793 ms
 9  74.192.199.112.unknown.m1.com.sg (112.199.192.74)  4.256 ms  4.187 ms  4.282 ms

M1 taking a trip around singapore! Must complain!

 

[seowbin]

This is mine
from moi home internet.
run yesterday remotely then went home liao

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server

 ISP: Axclusive

 Nearest          3.96 ms     0.0%    913.63 Mbps    933.84 Mbps    fdcservers.net - Singapore
 Kochi, IN        51.03 ms    0.0%    750.32 Mbps    460.41 Mbps    Asianet Broadband - Cochin
 Bangalore, IN    41.95 ms    0.0%    728.02 Mbps    474.83 Mbps    Bharti Airtel Ltd - Bangalore
 Chennai, IN      36.00 ms    0.0%    708.16 Mbps    350.72 Mbps    Jio - Chennai
 Mumbai, IN       70.25 ms    0.0%    745.99 Mbps    368.91 Mbps    Airtel Broadband - Mumbai
 Delhi, IN        87.70 ms    0.0%    554.45 Mbps    334.77 Mbps    Tata Play Fiber - New Delhi

 Seattle, US      186.96 ms   N/A     552.46 Mbps    225.46 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA
 Los Angeles, US  175.94 ms   0.0%    509.00 Mbps    211.91 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA
 Dallas, US       210.64 ms   0.0%    617.46 Mbps    170.27 Mbps    Hivelocity - Dallas, TX
 Miami, US        264.96 ms   N/A     372.22 Mbps    162.57 Mbps    Boost Mobile - Miami, FL
 New York, US     217.87 ms   0.0%    915.13 Mbps    214.19 Mbps    GSL Networks - New York, NY
 Toronto, CA      222.98 ms   0.0%    383.61 Mbps    149.96 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON
 Mexico City, MX  242.08 ms   N/A     465.72 Mbps    207.26 Mbps    INFINITUM - Ciudad de México

 London, UK       161.96 ms   0.0%    930.36 Mbps    220.09 Mbps    VeloxServ Communications - London
 Amsterdam, NL    160.29 ms   0.0%    948.66 Mbps    230.26 Mbps    31173 Services AB - Amsterdam
 Paris, FR        151.92 ms   N/A     929.44 Mbps    198.29 Mbps    Axione - Paris
 Frankfurt, DE    164.98 ms   20.7%   307.55 Mbps    170.13 Mbps    Clouvider Ltd - Frankfurt am Main
 Warsaw, PL       163.00 ms   0.0%    933.47 Mbps    254.59 Mbps    Play - Warszawa
 Bucharest, RO    203.98 ms   0.0%    898.89 Mbps    223.77 Mbps    Vodafone Romania Mobile - Bucharest - Bucharest
 Moscow, RU       191.06 ms   0.0%    54.64 Mbps     41.39 Mbps     t2 Russia - Moscow

 Jeddah, SA       178.93 ms   0.0%    916.44 Mbps    213.27 Mbps    Saudi Telecom Company
 Dubai, AE        77.96 ms    N/A     954.56 Mbps    75.56 Mbps     e& UAE - Dubai
 Istanbul, TR     190.85 ms   0.0%    606.60 Mbps    202.41 Mbps    Turkcell - Istanbul
 Tehran, IR       257.03 ms   0.0%    368.85 Mbps    195.68 Mbps    MCI
 Cairo, EG        185.04 ms   N/A     418.90 Mbps    207.92 Mbps    Orange Egypt - Cairo

 Tokyo, JP        69.85 ms    N/A     906.29 Mbps    319.23 Mbps    GSL Networks - Tokyo
 Shanghai, CU-CN  108.91 ms   0.0%    944.06 Mbps    187.21 Mbps    China Unicom 5G - Shanghai
 Suzhou, CT-CN    89.36 ms    N/A     478.01 Mbps    285.43 Mbps    China Telecom JiangSu 5G - Suzhou
 Hong Kong, CN    FAILED
 Singapore, SG    2.94 ms     0.0%    894.07 Mbps    926.20 Mbps    NewMedia Express - Singapore
 Jakarta, ID      14.96 ms    0.0%    863.30 Mbps    917.44 Mbps    PT Solnet Indonesia - Jakarta
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Avg DL Speed       : 685.68 Mbps
 Avg UL Speed       : 304.47 Mbps

 Total DL Data      : 28.62 GB
 Total UL Data      : 10.98 GB
 Total Data         : 39.60 GB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Duration           : 22 min 57 sec
 System Time        : 21/04/2025 - 17:01:34 +08
 Total Script Runs  : 108864

 

[xiaofan]

From
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...have-issues-accessing-taobao-pc-site.7123129/

Taobao has two IPs, one is IPv6 and other is IPv4. Taobao IPv6 is constantly garbage while IPv4 can varies.
If anyone want to do a simple ping to taobao, please do both

ping -4 taobao.com
ping -6 taobao.com

This is from my VPS that I am using as VPN running on GSL network.

PING taobao.com (59.82.122.165): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 59.82.122.165: seq=0 ttl=82 time=107.925 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.165: seq=1 ttl=82 time=107.130 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.165: seq=2 ttl=82 time=107.834 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.165: seq=3 ttl=82 time=107.486 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.165: seq=4 ttl=82 time=107.220 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 107.130/107.519/107.925 ms

PING taobao.com(2401:b180:7003::25 (2401:b180:7003::25)) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::25 (2401:b180:7003::25): icmp_seq=1 ttl=82 time=229 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::25 (2401:b180:7003::25): icmp_seq=2 ttl=82 time=231 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::25 (2401:b180:7003::25): icmp_seq=3 ttl=82 time=229 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4048ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 229.313/230.031/231.405/0.971 ms

 

[xiaofan]

1) No such issues for my Singtel 5Gbps plan, both IPv4 and IPv6 are fine.

Take note different Singtel IPv4 segments may perform a bit differently. My one is at 115.66.xxx.xxx.

 -----------------------------------------------------
 OpenWrt 23.05.5, r24106-10cc5fcd00
 -----------------------------------------------------
root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 4 taobao.com
PING taobao.com (59.82.121.163): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=0 ttl=83 time=85.820 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=1 ttl=83 time=86.084 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=2 ttl=83 time=85.947 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=3 ttl=83 time=85.686 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 85.686/85.884/86.084 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -6 -c 4 taobao.com
PING taobao.com (2401:b180:7003::ed): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=0 ttl=84 time=71.906 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=1 ttl=84 time=71.779 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=2 ttl=84 time=71.640 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=3 ttl=84 time=72.059 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 71.640/71.846/72.059 ms

2) The report is that "s.taobao.com" may be worse for some ISPs, since "taobao.com" may use CDNs.

No issues from Singtel side though.

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 4 s.taobao.com
PING s.taobao.com (59.82.121.163): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=0 ttl=83 time=86.115 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=1 ttl=83 time=85.644 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=2 ttl=83 time=86.063 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=3 ttl=83 time=85.923 ms

--- s.taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 85.644/85.936/86.115 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -6 -c 4 s.taobao.com
PING s.taobao.com (2408:4001:f10::203): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=0 ttl=86 time=84.559 ms
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=1 ttl=86 time=84.519 ms
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=2 ttl=86 time=84.763 ms
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=3 ttl=86 time=84.725 ms

--- s.taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 84.519/84.641/84.763 ms

 

[ieatcable]

1) No such issues for my Singtel 5Gbps plan, both IPv4 and IPv6 are fine.

Take note different Singtel IPv4 segments may perform a bit differently. My one is at 115.66.xxx.xxx.

 -----------------------------------------------------
 OpenWrt 23.05.5, r24106-10cc5fcd00
 -----------------------------------------------------
root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 4 taobao.com
PING taobao.com (59.82.121.163): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=0 ttl=83 time=85.820 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=1 ttl=83 time=86.084 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=2 ttl=83 time=85.947 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=3 ttl=83 time=85.686 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 85.686/85.884/86.084 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -6 -c 4 taobao.com
PING taobao.com (2401:b180:7003::ed): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=0 ttl=84 time=71.906 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=1 ttl=84 time=71.779 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=2 ttl=84 time=71.640 ms
64 bytes from 2401:b180:7003::ed: seq=3 ttl=84 time=72.059 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 71.640/71.846/72.059 ms

2) The report is that "s.taobao.com" may be worse for some ISPs, since "taobao.com" may use CDNs.

No issues from Singtel side though.

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 4 s.taobao.com
PING s.taobao.com (59.82.121.163): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=0 ttl=83 time=86.115 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=1 ttl=83 time=85.644 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=2 ttl=83 time=86.063 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.121.163: seq=3 ttl=83 time=85.923 ms

--- s.taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 85.644/85.936/86.115 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -6 -c 4 s.taobao.com
PING s.taobao.com (2408:4001:f10::203): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=0 ttl=86 time=84.559 ms
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=1 ttl=86 time=84.519 ms
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=2 ttl=86 time=84.763 ms
64 bytes from 2408:4001:f10::203: seq=3 ttl=86 time=84.725 ms

--- s.taobao.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 84.519/84.641/84.763 ms

Peering with china unicom and china mobile is the only part I can commend about ST's network compared to others. Lol. Even all my VPS cannot reach below 200ms in this test.

---

1) M1 vs ST
138.xx is M1 (AS4773)
151.xx is ST (AS9506/AS7473)

2) ST vs SH
121.xx is ST (AS9506/AS7473)
116.xx is SH (AS55430/AS4657)

---

Taobao should be the same as "Hangzhou Alibaba Advertising Co.,Ltd." based on their IP.

It looks like not always ST has the direct path. Different results on different IP prefix too. But they probably covered enough peering to popular CN websites.

M1 packets are lossy compared to ST and SH as you can see above. Need to mention that after M1 bought NTT transit in early 2025, the ping to most CN sites has improved a lot in the 200-350 range compared to when we were hitting 400-800 with 50% packet loss last year (4PX couldn't load).

Anyone have MR gamer IP to add to the comparison?

 

[SkyShroud]

Singtel is the only ISP in singapore that own international cables, I still find it odd that Singtel does not provide best of latency among all ISPs.

https://www.fiberatlantic.com/org/FnMA4fIRXtDRKDyFAMN5

 

[Henry Ng]

Starhub also own undersea cables

https://www.fiberatlantic.com/org/Dmg8aeEq6xZ0gj45XyBV

 

[seowbin]

Singtel is the only ISP in singapore that own international cables, I still find it odd that Singtel does not provide best of latency among all ISPs.

https://www.fiberatlantic.com/org/FnMA4fIRXtDRKDyFAMN5

Owns doesn't means they use it for their internet services.