learning japanese

[reverie62]

thanks all for the comments! coz the system is going for a change in 2010 so was thinking of taking jlpt 2 first... but guess i'll need to reconsider my options seriously now. thanks!!

 

[ahmahippo]

wonder the system change in 2010 must be very hard? o0

 

[ahmahippo]

wonder who going for JCS basic course?
meanin first time learner there

 

[dimitri_can]

Me! =p

Maybe someone has time to translate this.

N1: 【読む】母語話者向けの、新聞の論説など論理的に構成された文章を読んで、話の論理的な
筋を理解したり、抽象性の高い文章などを読んで抽象的な概念構成を理解したりすることが
できる。またより幅広い話題の、内容に深みのある読み物を読んで、話の流れに加え詳細な
表現意図も合わせて理解することができる。
【聞く】さまざまな場面において自然なスピードの、まとまりのある会話やニュース、講義を聞
いて、話の流れや内容、登場人物の関係や内容の論理構成などを詳細に理解したり、要旨
を把握したりすることができる。

N2: 【読む】母語話者向けの、易しく書かれた概説書などを読んで理解することができる。辞書を
使えば、やや専門的なものが読める。一般的な話題に関する平易な読み物を読んで、話の
流れだけでなく表現意図も合わせて理解することができる。
【聞く】日常的な場面に加えてさまざまな場面で、自然に近いスピードの、まとまりのある会話
やニュースを聞いて、話の流れや内容、登場人物の関係を理解したり、要旨を把握したりす
ることができる。

N3: 【読む】母語話者向けの文章を非母語話者に向けて語彙や漢字数を制限して書き直した文
章を、読んで理解することができる。また母語話者向け新聞の見出しから一定の情報を得る
ことができる。日常場面で目に触れる文章は、辞書を使って時間をかければ必要な情報を得
ることができる。
【聞く】日常的な場面に加え、日常的にはあまり頻繁に遭遇しない場面であっても、やや自然
に近いスピードの、まとまりのある会話を聞いて、話の具体的な流れを登場人物の関係など
と合わせて大まかに理解できる。

N4: 【読む】非母語話者に向けた、身近な内容のなじみのある文章を読んで理解することができ
る。
【聞く】日常的な場面での会話を聞いて、ゆっくり話してもらったり、聞き返すことができれば話
の大まかな流れが理解できる。

N5: 【読む】非母語話者に向けた、ひらがなやごくやさしい漢字で書かれた語句や文を読んで理
解することができる。
【聞く】日常的な場面の中でも特に典型的な教室や身の回りの場面で、主に単文や語句から
なる定型の会話を聞いて、非母語話者向けを意識してゆっくり話してもらったり、聞き返すこと
ができれば、用を足すにたる情報を聞き取ることができる。

 

[barrin]

1. After eating, i go out
2. At the time i finish eating i go out.

Thank you for answering my question. Seems like both sentence are structurally correct. This came from Minna No Nihongo Book 2 (Blue color) last 復習 last question. Seems like answer can be either...was just wondering why the standard answer is 1.

 

[dimitri_can]

At N2, for reading, you should be able to read and understand books of general statements. If a dictionary is being used, you should be able to read materials of speciality. You are able to read materials concerning general topics, simple passages, not just the flow of a story, but also match the intention of the expressions and understand it.

For listening, on top of general real life situations, you should be able to listen in various types of situations, conversations & news, being able to understand the content, flow of a story, understand the relationship b/w the characters, and able to grasp the gist of the story.
-----------------
Wow, that's hard.

 

[dimitri_can]

Also, the past years exam papers will no longer be revealed, to protect the standard of the exam. However, sample qns will be revealed.

 

[Ah_keong]

thanks all for the comments! coz the system is going for a change in 2010 so was thinking of taking jlpt 2 first... but guess i'll need to reconsider my options seriously now. thanks!!

yah ..

i planning to take JLPT 3 in 2009 and then
maybe N3 in 2010 under the new system??

 

[Ah_keong]

wonder who going for JCS basic course?
meanin first time learner there

me!!! i going for the intermediate course!!

 

[ice_lin]

Bunka Elementary 1 Test

Hi, to anyone who has studied at Bunka, can I jus check with you what will the oral and written test for Elementary 1 be like?

Heard from my sensei we'll be given a picture to describe it, but duno is it tt we describe what's on the picture (e.g a railway station can be seen at the top right of this picture, a restaurant is at bottom of this picture etc) or is it that we try to mk use of the picture to form sentences?

The written test will be like fill in the blanks from sentences?

Hope anyone who knows can enlighten me soon, thx!

 

[dimitri_can]

N5: 【読む】非母語話者に向けた、ひらがなやごくやさしい漢字で書かれた語句や文を読んで理
解することができる。

Reading: For those non native speakers, they should be able to understand passages and phrases that are being written in quite easy Kanji and hiragana.

 

[Ah_keong]

Me! =p

Maybe someone has time to translate this.

N1: 【読む】母語話者向けの、新聞の論説など論理的に構成された文章を読んで、話の論理的な
筋を理解したり、抽象性の高い文章などを読んで抽象的な概念構成を理解したりすることが
できる。またより幅広い話題の、内容に深みのある読み物を読んで、話の流れに加え詳細な
表現意図も合わせて理解することができる。
【聞く】さまざまな場面において自然なスピードの、まとまりのある会話やニュース、講義を聞
いて、話の流れや内容、登場人物の関係や内容の論理構成などを詳細に理解したり、要旨
を把握したりすることができる。

N2: 【読む】母語話者向けの、易しく書かれた概説書などを読んで理解することができる。辞書を
使えば、やや専門的なものが読める。一般的な話題に関する平易な読み物を読んで、話の
流れだけでなく表現意図も合わせて理解することができる。
【聞く】日常的な場面に加えてさまざまな場面で、自然に近いスピードの、まとまりのある会話
やニュースを聞いて、話の流れや内容、登場人物の関係を理解したり、要旨を把握したりす
ることができる。

N3: 【読む】母語話者向けの文章を非母語話者に向けて語彙や漢字数を制限して書き直した文
章を、読んで理解することができる。また母語話者向け新聞の見出しから一定の情報を得る
ことができる。日常場面で目に触れる文章は、辞書を使って時間をかければ必要な情報を得
ることができる。
【聞く】日常的な場面に加え、日常的にはあまり頻繁に遭遇しない場面であっても、やや自然
に近いスピードの、まとまりのある会話を聞いて、話の具体的な流れを登場人物の関係など
と合わせて大まかに理解できる。

N4: 【読む】非母語話者に向けた、身近な内容のなじみのある文章を読んで理解することができ
る。
【聞く】日常的な場面での会話を聞いて、ゆっくり話してもらったり、聞き返すことができれば話
の大まかな流れが理解できる。

N5: 【読む】非母語話者に向けた、ひらがなやごくやさしい漢字で書かれた語句や文を読んで理
解することができる。
【聞く】日常的な場面の中でも特に典型的な教室や身の回りの場面で、主に単文や語句から
なる定型の会話を聞いて、非母語話者向けを意識してゆっくり話してもらったり、聞き返すこと
ができれば、用を足すにたる情報を聞き取ることができる。

N5 = JLPT 4.0
N4 = JLPT 3.0
N3 = JLPT 2.5
N2 = JLPT 2.0
N1 = JLPT 1.0

something like that??

 

[Adventia]

Full-time class will also cost you a bomb, and it's on weekdays 3hrs/day during working hours, so I'm not sure how that is gonna fit your schedule. I guess it should be manageable if you're not working or studying full-time.

Yes i know it is gonna cost be a bomb...it is bothering me...>.<...
Schedule-wise i can fit in Full-time for quite a while...
For me time is an ultimate concern..so i dont have much choices...other schools dont offer full time
Cost wise i have no choice but to burn my pocket...T.T

 

[ahmahippo]

hehe.,..

who going for JCS?

The elementary (beginners) course is open to the public for enrolment in December each year. The new term commences from mid-January. Registration Date: Sunday, 21 December 2008 from 10.00am to 4.00pm.


I am thinking to enrol this one as well... so that I could get use to jap words

me talkin still no gd.... how how? what should I do.....
worst is the number... they talk so fast till i cant catch up.....

 

[dimitri_can]

hehe.,..

who going for JCS?

The elementary (beginners) course is open to the public for enrolment in December each year. The new term commences from mid-January. Registration Date: Sunday, 21 December 2008 from 10.00am to 4.00pm.


I am thinking to enrol this one as well... so that I could get use to jap words

me talkin still no gd.... how how? what should I do.....
worst is the number... they talk so fast till i cant catch up.....

Don't bother to enrol in JCS. Concentrate on your current course.

 

[dimitri_can]

N5 = JLPT 4.0
N4 = JLPT 3.0
N3 = JLPT 2.5
N2 = JLPT 2.0
N1 = JLPT 1.0

something like that??

Something like that

 

[rokugo]

hehe.,..

who going for JCS?

The elementary (beginners) course is open to the public for enrolment in December each year. The new term commences from mid-January. Registration Date: Sunday, 21 December 2008 from 10.00am to 4.00pm.

Please don't waste your money on JCS.
The 40person class size will kill any enthusiasm you have for learning the language.

Ive studied in Ikoma, Inoue, JCS and fulltime in Tokyo.
Of the 3 SG schools, Ikoma comes closest to the Tokyo standard of teaching japanese.

 

[rokugo]

Yes i know it is gonna cost be a bomb...it is bothering me...>.<...
Schedule-wise i can fit in Full-time for quite a while...
For me time is an ultimate concern..so i dont have much choices...other schools dont offer full time
Cost wise i have no choice but to burn my pocket...T.T

I've studied in Ikoma fulltime (for 3 months or so) a few years ago.
I must say I enjoyed it alot, mostly because of the very small class size (there were 7 or 8 of us in the class), so we had lots of time and opportunity to interact with our Senseis.
But beware though, there is written homework everyday, so you need to set aside time to finish it every evening.

 

[ahmahippo]

i wonder how to improve on jap words and speed on talkin and hearing. o0

 

[Adventia]

I've studied in Ikoma fulltime (for 3 months or so) a few years ago.
I must say I enjoyed it alot, mostly because of the very small class size (there were 7 or 8 of us in the class), so we had lots of time and opportunity to interact with our Senseis.
But beware though, there is written homework everyday, so you need to set aside time to finish it every evening.

Which level you went for ?
Hmm...homework wise is it alot?
How long on average you spent on homework each day ?
I have heard Ikoma is more homework based then test based.So i kind of expected that there will be homework but i dont know the workload they will give.