Thinning Hair problem

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i think i eat propecia for like 3 month i never see any improvements on my frontal hair also..

all treatment take at least 6-12months for it effect to be seen.

also, it is very subjective. comparing photo from 2006 to 2008, my hair don't have any noticeable changes. is slowing down or stopping your hairloss an improvement to the condition;) so how is it possible to determine that just after 3months:o
 

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Ancient taoist advice: Keep your sperms during sexual congress if you want to keep your hair ... :D

i have 2 full barrels of this shlt in my room. so why am i still suffering from hairloss:o

no wonder ancient taoist priest love闭关修理:s7: must be quite a collection:s13:
 

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http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/dmpk/25/2/208/_pdf

check the link above. a pretty old study. but helpful for those getting proscar yet worry about not getting a daily accurate dose.

to sum up. the study show that a consistent dose of 0.2mg daily eventually more or less equal to the effect of 5mg on DHT serum. it is due to this study that i decide to cut my proscar into into 7parts.

FYI. in japan, propecia come in 0.2mg and 1mg version;)
 

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Anyone going JB

I follow this thread quite long le. i took proscar 1 yr ago gave up after i finish my 4 month supply due to budget problem. Anyone gg JB? shun bian help me buy proscar over there since its cheaper? pm me
 

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they say works best on crown wor

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How long ahve you been taking propecia?
And when do you see results in your case?
And do you experience increased shedding during the 1st few mths?
I am now in the 4th month but still not see any improvements yet..just wonder should I continue with the propecia treatment?
 

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http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/dmpk/25/2/208/_pdf

check the link above. a pretty old study. but helpful for those getting proscar yet worry about not getting a daily accurate dose.

to sum up. the study show that a consistent dose of 0.2mg daily eventually more or less equal to the effect of 5mg on DHT serum. it is due to this study that i decide to cut my proscar into into 7parts.

FYI. in japan, propecia come in 0.2mg and 1mg version;)

with propecia did u see visible improvement ?
 

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http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/dmpk/25/2/208/_pdf

check the link above. a pretty old study. but helpful for those getting proscar yet worry about not getting a daily accurate dose.

to sum up. the study show that a consistent dose of 0.2mg daily eventually more or less equal to the effect of 5mg on DHT serum. it is due to this study that i decide to cut my proscar into into 7parts.

FYI. in japan, propecia come in 0.2mg and 1mg version;)
but where do you get them and at how much?
 

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but where do you get them and at how much?

here and there i will go for holiday. i got it mainly from china as i go there regularly. pretty cheap. normally i just get 50pills which will last me for a year. work up to less then $6 per months for finasteride:o
 

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with propecia did u see visible improvement ?

mostly maintain. no further loss for the last 5years or so.

therefore i always advice to use finasteride as early and consistent as possible. the longer you are sitting on problem, the more hair is going to be lost. for finasteride think maintain and if there is any regrowth, that a bonus.

i not sure for your case. it seem you are badly affected by the scare monger out there. there is a double blind study i read once before showing how great the placebo effect of finasteride can be if patient are fed with information of it side effect compare to another group which was not told. honestly, in your state i not sure if you should really take it.
 

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I follow this thread quite long le. i took proscar 1 yr ago gave up after i finish my 4 month supply due to budget problem. Anyone gg JB? shun bian help me buy proscar over there since its cheaper? pm me

once i stopped finasteride for about 8months during NSF time due to the same reason. big mistake. from photos, i can see my hairloss is getting worst. of course, during that time i know nothing about finasteride dosing and proscar therefore faithfully getting propecia at $90 for a 28days supply which can be quite hard on the pocket with NS allowance.

unless you don't have passport or a few hours to make your way to JB, i don't see why you have to wait for others to buy it for you. it your own hair after all:s7:

for cost, just cut your proscar up to 5 or more pieces which will cost you way less then $20 per month. that should be affortable even for most people even on shoe string budget. i cut mine into 7parts. one pills last me for a week.
 

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yesterday one of my colleague buzz his hair down. at the back of his head we notice there is one strip of missing hair. someone asked him is it part of the hair cut. he told us it is due to hair transplant to the fontal part. not everyone understand the concept of hair transplant and so i explained things to them. i didn't ask him much as he might not be comfortable with it infront of others. well, we have to be as sensitive to balding people. only those suffer from it will understand:o will find a chance to do it sometime. i believe if i mention to him i am on medication for hairloss he will properly open up.

he is in his early 30s. pretty bad overall diffuse thinning. i not sure if the transplant actually help him to look better or not in this case. but other then the scar behind, the fontal area does not look too unnatural to me. he mention he did it quite sometime back but didn't specific a time so i guess from the conversation it about 6months or so.

a few things was mention in the short exchange. he did it in singapore and cost about 2-3K. from the way he told us about the ops, it sound like FUE. about half of the transplant hair survive according to him.

again, i didn't have chance to discuss much yet therefore these are some of my personal observation.

i asked him why did he buzz his hair down which make his scar obvious. the scar is about the width of a pinkie finger right across the back of the head. he said with his thin hair, a buzz cut will appear better. it does not make sense to me. if he is going for the buzz cut, why go for transplant at the first place. i not sure what his doctor advice and his hair condition at the point of transplant as we have no idea of the time frame.

overall, he have a pretty good donor area from what i notice. but since he is having pretty bad overall thinning, i don't really get the idea of transplanting to the fontal area while having a buzz cut. not only the scar is showing but it look ridiculous horrible as his thinning continue to get worst. in the end, he will be left with a patch of transplant hair in the front while other area thin out. i not expert, but i do think either he spend more for a full proper transplant, buzz it down or just simply use concealer for the time being.

not sure if he is taking any other treatment. but i sure he is on something since he have come to the point of transplant. will be interesting to discuss with him. i wonder is he on this forums=:p
 

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Secret remedies( egg white or ginger)=more hairloss

you have egg white and ginger. well, i have vinegar with chilli powder plus an extra dose of extra virgin olive oil:o yours certainly taste better then mine:s13:

years down the road you will be laughing at yourself for the things you have done to keep your hair=:p
 

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yesterday one of my colleague buzz his hair down. at the back of his head we notice there is one strip of missing hair. someone asked him is it part of the hair cut. he told us it is due to hair transplant to the fontal part. not everyone understand the concept of hair transplant and so i explained things to them. i didn't ask him much as he might not be comfortable with it infront of others. well, we have to be as sensitive to balding people. only those suffer from it will understand:o will find a chance to do it sometime. i believe if i mention to him i am on medication for hairloss he will properly open up.

he is in his early 30s. pretty bad overall diffuse thinning. i not sure if the transplant actually help him to look better or not in this case. but other then the scar behind, the fontal area does not look too unnatural to me. he mention he did it quite sometime back but didn't specific a time so i guess from the conversation it about 6months or so.

a few things was mention in the short exchange. he did it in singapore and cost about 2-3K. from the way he told us about the ops, it sound like FUE. about half of the transplant hair survive according to him.

again, i didn't have chance to discuss much yet therefore these are some of my personal observation.

i asked him why did he buzz his hair down which make his scar obvious. the scar is about the width of a pinkie finger right across the back of the head. he said with his thin hair, a buzz cut will appear better. it does not make sense to me. if he is going for the buzz cut, why go for transplant at the first place. i not sure what his doctor advice and his hair condition at the point of transplant as we have no idea of the time frame.

overall, he have a pretty good donor area from what i notice. but since he is having pretty bad overall thinning, i don't really get the idea of transplanting to the fontal area while having a buzz cut. not only the scar is showing but it look ridiculous horrible as his thinning continue to get worst. in the end, he will be left with a patch of transplant hair in the front while other area thin out. i not expert, but i do think either he spend more for a full proper transplant, buzz it down or just simply use concealer for the time being.

not sure if he is taking any other treatment. but i sure he is on something since he have come to the point of transplant. will be interesting to discuss with him. i wonder is he on this forums=:p

hmmm as wad i have read in other places, hair xplant gives u scars? which makes it ugly if lets say 1 day u want to shave it?
 

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have u guys considered shaving it botak

someone i knew have hairloss for a few yrs aleady. a few days ago he headed to my gym with a shaved head.

N wow he looks good n alot of ppl commented on his new look. imagine the days with no worries about hairstyle, hair growth products etc etc.
 

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mostly maintain. no further loss for the last 5years or so.

therefore i always advice to use finasteride as early and consistent as possible. the longer you are sitting on problem, the more hair is going to be lost. for finasteride think maintain and if there is any regrowth, that a bonus.

i not sure for your case. it seem you are badly affected by the scare monger out there. there is a double blind study i read once before showing how great the placebo effect of finasteride can be if patient are fed with information of it side effect compare to another group which was not told. honestly, in your state i not sure if you should really take it.

hmm since u r able to maintain yr hair with a portion of a pill, why not try to increase yr dose? for e.g half of a pill? maybe u would be able to regain yr hair? :D


on my part

ya n i agree i m not ready to take it:s13:. i believed u have read up the function of dht which finas inhibit.

i dont believe nothing will happen even if one doesnt feel any side effects .

For e.g some ppl with certain illness do not realise they have the illness until its too late? why? because they have never experience any symptoms or they disregard minor symptoms until its too late.

My point is sometimes u cant judge how yr body is reacting based on yr own judgements.:o
 

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hmm since u r able to maintain yr hair with a portion of a pill, why not try to increase yr dose? for e.g half of a pill? maybe u would be able to regain yr hair? :D


on my part

ya n i agree i m not ready to take it:s13:. i believed u have read up the function of dht which finas inhibit.

i dont believe nothing will happen even if one doesnt feel any side effects .

For e.g some ppl with certain illness do not realise they have the illness until its too late? why? because they have never experience any symptoms or they disregard minor symptoms until its too late.

My point is sometimes u cant judge how yr body is reacting based on yr own judgements.:o

it does not work that way. read the study i have post in the previous page. finasteride have a very flat response curve.

i do encourge most people who suffer from hairloss to take finastride as the first line of defense and clearly i have never base my reasoning on personal experience. i should be able to back up most of my statement with citation unless somehow i lost those studies.

as mention i strongly believe that the amount of patient suffered side effect from fin is many times higher then what Merck claim. still, this should not be use to discourage patient from taking fin as most people likely to experience benefit far out weight the risk. in life, shouldn't one learn to take calculated risk? ok, i admit i do base my recommendation on personal belief:o

other then that, no.
 
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