Gundam Modeling Official thread - Part 5

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well, if we think about how the car engine works, i believe the double piston would fill the tank up faster. other than that, i think not much difference.

guys I need your help..

I did some research on compressors and I decided to get from keithab due to budget reasons.

whats the difference between single and double piston, both with air tank?

is it single piston take longer to fill up the air tank? or is there some more difference to it?
 

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guys I need your help..

I did some research on compressors and I decided to get from keithab due to budget reasons.

whats the difference between single and double piston, both with air tank?

is it single piston take longer to fill up the air tank? or is there some more difference to it?

I have the single piston w/tank
Find that it cannot keep up with my pace, end up the piston needs to kick in all the time.

If u have extra cash go for double, nt sure if it'll be much better though..
 

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well, the piston only kicks in when the tank hits below the set level ma, if you do not want the piston to kick in, you probably need a bigger tank that pumps to a higher psi and activates and a lower psi again. correct me if i am wrong. if with a bigger tank, a single piston will just take abit longer to pump it up again. however, with heavy usage, it is true that the single piston will keep pumping.

I have the single piston w/tank
Find that it cannot keep up with my pace, end up the piston needs to kick in all the time.

If u have extra cash go for double, nt sure if it'll be much better though..
 

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well, if we think about how the car engine works, i believe the double piston would fill the tank up faster. other than that, i think not much difference.

I have the single piston w/tank
Find that it cannot keep up with my pace, end up the piston needs to kick in all the time.

If u have extra cash go for double, nt sure if it'll be much better though..

well, the piston only kicks in when the tank hits below the set level ma, if you do not want the piston to kick in, you probably need a bigger tank that pumps to a higher psi and activates and a lower psi again. correct me if i am wrong. if with a bigger tank, a single piston will just take abit longer to pump it up again. however, with heavy usage, it is true that the single piston will keep pumping.

Thanks for the advice guys. the double piston costs 25% more.

I mainly do 1/144 scale... not sure if I will use less air..

@osirisx: when the piston kick in, do you still get stable air flow?
 

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everyone using ab... *envy*

moi no ab.. :(

this is my spraycanned kit..
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more pics can be found here

thank you for bearing w my noob spraycanned kit
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. the double piston costs 25% more.

I mainly do 1/144 scale... not sure if I will use less air..

@osirisx: when the piston kick in, do you still get stable air flow?

Single piston is ok actually but I would recommend dual piston.. For some ppl who do feel that single piston cannot keep up with their pace.. It's because they set high psi n spray.. Wet coat n zhua.. Dual piston has more stable airflow imho.. Don't be sensitive.. I m not saying osirisx or anyone.. Pls don't misunderstand me.. In fact I feel the same way at times.. Cos I m still not good at controlling my airbrush..
I m using sparmax 610 air tank compressor btw.. Even a 5 year old can do better than me..
 

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I have the single piston w/tank
Find that it cannot keep up with my pace, end up the piston needs to kick in all the time.

If u have extra cash go for double, nt sure if it'll be much better though..

Errr.. Bro.. Ur pace has nth to do with the piston actually.. The piston is to generate compressed air into the tank.. It's ur airtank capacity which determines when the piston kicks in.. When the air level is below a certain level.. The piston will kick in to fill the airtank again..
 

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guys I need your help..

I did some research on compressors and I decided to get from keithab due to budget reasons.

whats the difference between single and double piston, both with air tank?

is it single piston take longer to fill up the air tank? or is there some more difference to it?

double piston has double the piston pumps, half the filling time, but also double the power consumption......:s22::s22:

personally i think is overkill cause there should be fast enough to fill the tank than a normal airbrush output of air, unless you tell me you spraying at 40+ psi with a industrial spray gun then i nothing to say liao:s13:
 

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double piston has double the piston pumps, half the filling time, but also double the power consumption......:s22::s22:

personally i think is overkill cause there should be fast enough to fill the tank than a normal airbrush output of air, unless you tell me you spraying at 40+ psi with a industrial spray gun then i nothing to say liao:s13:

You make fine points. Do you think the airflow will be stable? Just worried that I might experience the "air cannister freezing" effect..

what compressor are you using btw?

Single piston is ok actually but I would recommend dual piston.. For some ppl who do feel that single piston cannot keep up with their pace.. It's because they set high psi n spray.. Wet coat n zhua.. Dual piston has more stable airflow imho.. Don't be sensitive.. I m not saying osirisx or anyone.. Pls don't misunderstand me.. In fact I feel the same way at times.. Cos I m still not good at controlling my airbrush..
I m using sparmax 610 air tank compressor btw.. Even a 5 year old can do better than me..

oh I saw sparmax 610... expensive leh... the hobbymate ab also very ex...

now keith got no stock for single piston.. not sure if I should wait till end feb/early march or just hoot double piston...

oh ya I need to get respirators too.. and a big bottle of x20a..paint...scriber...putty...:s22::s22:
 

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You make fine points. Do you think the airflow will be stable? Just worried that I might experience the "air cannister freezing" effect..

what compressor are you using btw?



oh I saw sparmax 610... expensive leh... the hobbymate ab also very ex...

now keith got no stock for single piston.. not sure if I should wait till end feb/early march or just hoot double piston...

oh ya I need to get respirators too.. and a big bottle of x20a..paint...scriber...putty...:s22::s22:


air cannister freezing effect? do you mean frosting?

er.. stablity of airflow should't be a problem.. as for frosting, as long as u have a moisture trap attached shouldnt be a problem..
 

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air cannister freezing effect? do you mean frosting?

er.. stablity of airflow should't be a problem.. as for frosting, as long as u have a moisture trap attached shouldnt be a problem..

got tank i think should not have problem, you mean the airbrush air canister freezing right?? should not have cause its normal compressed air not propellants so wont freeze, i personally dont keep compress air in the tank, drain all out after every session.

Watched AGE 17, feel it will be kinda like SEED + Aquarion Evol, best friends killing each other(SEED) + Fighting for same girl(Aquarion Evol)..:s22::s22:
 

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i started out with air cans also and i know wad freezing situation you referring to. i also just bought the sparmax tc-610h recently. haven met with the problem so far, i don think will have such a problem also. the compressor so far so good.

You make fine points. Do you think the airflow will be stable? Just worried that I might experience the "air cannister freezing" effect..

what compressor are you using btw?



oh I saw sparmax 610... expensive leh... the hobbymate ab also very ex...

now keith got no stock for single piston.. not sure if I should wait till end feb/early march or just hoot double piston...

oh ya I need to get respirators too.. and a big bottle of x20a..paint...scriber...putty...:s22::s22:
 

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got tank i think should not have problem, you mean the airbrush air canister freezing right?? should not have cause its normal compressed air not propellants so wont freeze, i personally dont keep compress air in the tank, drain all out after every session.

Watched AGE 17, feel it will be kinda like SEED + Aquarion Evol, best friends killing each other(SEED) + Fighting for same girl(Aquarion Evol)..:s22::s22:

yah i know what it means.. lol just that i was confused cuz he's using ab + compressor.. but he's worried about a spraycan problem so.. :s22:
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. the double piston costs 25% more.

I mainly do 1/144 scale... not sure if I will use less air..

@osirisx: when the piston kick in, do you still get stable air flow?
yes still stable...but find that the air will have a slightly lesser pressure than when the tank is full

seen some videos on youtube where the guy's compressor can start and stop while spraying..
for mine only when I put down my ab then only will the tank fill up
Single piston is ok actually but I would recommend dual piston.. For some ppl who do feel that single piston cannot keep up with their pace.. It's because they set high psi n spray.. Wet coat n zhua.. Dual piston has more stable airflow imho.. Don't be sensitive.. I m not saying osirisx or anyone.. Pls don't misunderstand me.. In fact I feel the same way at times.. Cos I m still not good at controlling my airbrush..
I m using sparmax 610 air tank compressor btw.. Even a 5 year old can do better than me..
not sure what u meant by wet coat
but I only set like ard 15 psi...quite normal leh
Errr.. Bro.. Ur pace has nth to do with the piston actually.. The piston is to generate compressed air into the tank.. It's ur airtank capacity which determines when the piston kicks in.. When the air level is below a certain level.. The piston will kick in to fill the airtank again..
hmm...yea maybe 3l is too small of a tank? I duno..:s22:
 
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