Proposal Ring - Part 2

[BoulevardLim]

I bought a diamond from Bluenile, 0.45 carat D SI1. Cut is Excellent, Polish is Excellent, Symmetry is Excellent.

Before I bought it, the customer service from Bluenile told me that the diamond is eye clean. When the diamond arrived, there were small blackish dots near the middle of the diamond . At first I thought I can stand it.. but the more I look at it now, the more obvious and it is. Can't tolerate it anymore... What I can't handle is the diamond does not sparkle ever though it has Excellent Cut/Polish/Symmetry. We compared the diamond with other friends and find that the diamond loses out.. and theirs is not even a Excellent Cut!

Now I don't know what to do with the ring. Wanted to return it but it's past the return date policy.. Does anyone know where I can try selling it??

Ouch... I would try to go for a VS2 minimum or VS1… better to be safe than sorry. Normally SI stones have inclusions very visible, so for an engagement ring I would not get a SI diamond.

The problem with buying online is you won’t get to see the diamond when you buy, and that makes me feel uncomfortable.

BTW, triple excellent does not mean the best. There is still a lot more to it like using the diff scopes and stuff. I suspect your diamond can have bad light leakages which make it sparkle less? Cause even though a diamond may be at triple excellent, it can still have light leakages, an Ideal Scope would be able to tell you where the leakages are…

Received the 3D design of my ring

Super satisfied with service of JP. They have been very patient and friendly with me.

Jann was explaining to me that for 4 prongs settings, you can see more of the diamonds and it won't cover it too much. The only request I had for him was to make the prongs clock shape (like 12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) becos my gf prefers it.
We wanted the ring to look cute with some sort of flowery patterning but didn't want it to look too cliche. We've seen lots of flowery or petal prongs design when diamond shopping around but most of them looks over the top and too much... We realize that most flowery design rings have very thick and chunky prongs which makes the setting look too complicated. We also gave up on this idea until Jann showed us this design which we are very happy with. The prongs are still thin and sleek but have a rose petal shape.. Love the simplicity...

My only concern is the rose gold on the prongs. Should I do it in rose of white gold? Or do the whole ring in rose gold? Rose gold seems more special but I don't want to ruin the whole look. I requested another one in white gold.

Oh yeah, and it is with side diamonds. I prefer it without side diamonds to keep it more simple... but gf wants said she wants her big diamond to have little friends to keep it accompany..... so bo pian...

The rose gold does makes it look more flowery, I think the rose gold part looks nice on the prongs but if the whole ring is rose gold then it is too strong and you will lose the flowery look. I like the rose gold prongs accompanied by the “small friends”

Plain one should be ok also…

 

[[GorgeouS]]

Received the 3D design of my ring

Super satisfied with service of JP. They have been very patient and friendly with me.

Jann was explaining to me that for 4 prongs settings, you can see more of the diamonds and it won't cover it too much. The only request I had for him was to make the prongs clock shape (like 12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) becos my gf prefers it.
We wanted the ring to look cute with some sort of flowery patterning but didn't want it to look too cliche. We've seen lots of flowery or petal prongs design when diamond shopping around but most of them looks over the top and too much... We realize that most flowery design rings have very thick and chunky prongs which makes the setting look too complicated. We also gave up on this idea until Jann showed us this design which we are very happy with. The prongs are still thin and sleek but have a rose petal shape.. Love the simplicity...

My only concern is the rose gold on the prongs. Should I do it in rose of white gold? Or do the whole ring in rose gold? Rose gold seems more special but I don't want to ruin the whole look. I requested another one in white gold.

Oh yeah, and it is with side diamonds. I prefer it without side diamonds to keep it more simple... but gf wants said she wants her big diamond to have little friends to keep it accompany..... so bo pian...

I'm not really a rose gold person... I would prefer white gold and plain band no side diamonds...

 

[[GorgeouS]]

I bought a diamond from Bluenile, 0.45 carat D SI1. Cut is Excellent, Polish is Excellent, Symmetry is Excellent.

Before I bought it, the customer service from Bluenile told me that the diamond is eye clean. When the diamond arrived, there were small blackish dots near the middle of the diamond . At first I thought I can stand it.. but the more I look at it now, the more obvious and it is. Can't tolerate it anymore... What I can't handle is the diamond does not sparkle ever though it has Excellent Cut/Polish/Symmetry. We compared the diamond with other friends and find that the diamond loses out.. and theirs is not even a Excellent Cut!

Now I don't know what to do with the ring. Wanted to return it but it's past the return date policy.. Does anyone know where I can try selling it??

The lack of sparkle is probably caused by light leakages like BoulevardLim mentioned.. Many sales people will tell you Triple Excellent is the best.. yada yada.. but its all no use. You should read up more about the Aset Scope, Hearts and Arrows scope and Ideal Scope. You'll be astonished at how vague this "triple excellent" term is..

 

[yeochris]

Hi guys,

I just bought a 1.16c last friday during yee poh warehouse sales at henderson( anyone heard of this supplier b4)

Spec: triple ex, G VS2, floren:none
Brilliant cut round
$18k
Is it reasonable?

Just browsed thru vivo diamond... How come my specs(slightly bigger c) cost only $13-$15k??

Is there any hidden cost at vivo?

 

[konpop]

hi guys,

I know this has most probably been raised 3million times, but can someone please pass me the contact for JP?

Thanks.

 

[babyjyo]

Hi guys,

I just bought a 1.16c last friday during yee poh warehouse sales at henderson( anyone heard of this supplier b4)

Spec: triple ex, G VS2, floren:none
Brilliant cut round
$18k
Is it reasonable?

Just browsed thru vivo diamond... How come my specs(slightly bigger c) cost only $13-$15k??

Is there any hidden cost at vivo?

Pricing can differ largely based on where you purchase the diamonds from. Some retailers or sellers may price their diamonds higher. Generally, diamonds from the chain retailers in Singapore tend to be sold at a high profit margin, despite the sales/discounts they offer.

When buying a diamond, it goes beyond the 4 Cs, which can affect the pricing.

 

[pigusai]

Hi guys,

I just bought a 1.16c last friday during yee poh warehouse sales at henderson( anyone heard of this supplier b4)

Spec: triple ex, G VS2, floren:none
Brilliant cut round
$18k
Is it reasonable?

Just browsed thru vivo diamond... How come my specs(slightly bigger c) cost only $13-$15k??

Is there any hidden cost at vivo?

that's because you overpaid at a "warehouse" sale

 

[jhchoo85]

hi guys,

I know this has most probably been raised 3million times, but can someone please pass me the contact for JP?

Thanks.

Google is your best friend, my friend from America bought from JP too without me passing their contact

 

[jhchoo85]

Hi guys,

I just bought a 1.16c last friday during yee poh warehouse sales at henderson( anyone heard of this supplier b4)

Spec: triple ex, G VS2, floren:none
Brilliant cut round
$18k
Is it reasonable?

Just browsed thru vivo diamond... How come my specs(slightly bigger c) cost only $13-$15k??

Is there any hidden cost at vivo?

Better hope it is at least a Super Ideal Cut for that kind of pricing..

 

[KingKhan]

Is it AGSL or GIA certified? If yes, I think your best option is to upgrade it, preferably at least a VS1 or VS2.
Blue Nile Diamond Upgrade Program

It is GIA certified. I did consider upgrading my diamond back with them. The problem is if I upgrade back with them, I'll only be getting the same quality diamond but bigger. I emailed them asking for pictures of the diamond if I were to upgrade but they seem very unwilling to give me any photos Can only choose by seeing the certificate. Like this, I'll be back to square one again with a dull but bigger diamond. I might have to bite the bullet on this one and re-set it to something else. Going to take it to Jannpaul this Saturday and ask for their opinion

 

[hnrch42]

Received the 3D design of my ring

Super satisfied with service of JP. They have been very patient and friendly with me.

Jann was explaining to me that for 4 prongs settings, you can see more of the diamonds and it won't cover it too much. The only request I had for him was to make the prongs clock shape (like 12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) becos my gf prefers it.
We wanted the ring to look cute with some sort of flowery patterning but didn't want it to look too cliche. We've seen lots of flowery or petal prongs design when diamond shopping around but most of them looks over the top and too much... We realize that most flowery design rings have very thick and chunky prongs which makes the setting look too complicated. We also gave up on this idea until Jann showed us this design which we are very happy with. The prongs are still thin and sleek but have a rose petal shape.. Love the simplicity...

My only concern is the rose gold on the prongs. Should I do it in rose of white gold? Or do the whole ring in rose gold? Rose gold seems more special but I don't want to ruin the whole look. I requested another one in white gold.

Oh yeah, and it is with side diamonds. I prefer it without side diamonds to keep it more simple... but gf wants said she wants her big diamond to have little friends to keep it accompany..... so bo pian...

Nice! As what some other forummers had commented, the rose gold claws would make the ring more "flowery", having the whole ring in rose gold would be overwhelming. White gold claws would lose out on the "flowery" effect that you'd want to acheive.
I think it's a very nice balance striked for this design, a pity for the Cushion Brellia that I've gotten would look better with simpler ring settings

 

[babyjyo]

It is GIA certified. I did consider upgrading my diamond back with them. The problem is if I upgrade back with them, I'll only be getting the same quality diamond but bigger. I emailed them asking for pictures of the diamond if I were to upgrade but they seem very unwilling to give me any photos Can only choose by seeing the certificate. Like this, I'll be back to square one again with a dull but bigger diamond. I might have to bite the bullet on this one and re-set it to something else. Going to take it to Jannpaul this Saturday and ask for their opinion

Use the HCA tool to help you. This will help lower the risk of getting a bad diamond.

 

[Kentz]

It is GIA certified. I did consider upgrading my diamond back with them. The problem is if I upgrade back with them, I'll only be getting the same quality diamond but bigger. I emailed them asking for pictures of the diamond if I were to upgrade but they seem very unwilling to give me any photos Can only choose by seeing the certificate. Like this, I'll be back to square one again with a dull but bigger diamond. I might have to bite the bullet on this one and re-set it to something else. Going to take it to Jannpaul this Saturday and ask for their opinion

Yes, as babyjyo says, use the HCA Tool to help you filter out the bad performers. Here's the link; Holloway Cut Advisor | HCA Tool | PriceScope, just enter your diamond specs in there and see the score, a score under 2 is an indication of good performer, though the forumers here have higher expectation, so many would suggest 1.5 or below.

And also is your current Diamond already their Signature series? If it is, then you are probably right that you may get back the same quality diamond. But if not, then this might be the best choice that you have at the moment. JP will give valuable information to help you. But buying a 2nd diamond will definitely cost you more than upgrading.

I had a look at this piece, 0.50-Carat Blue Nile Signature Round Diamond, maybe you can consider upgrading to this, it has a HCA score of 1.1/1.4, depending on which report you use to make the calculation.

Hope this helps, good luck!

 

[Kentang]

ok guys... here's something i got from Blue nile...

1.5ct, I color SI2 XXX

still in tension ring cuz setting not done up yet..



the hearts...



the arrows..



pictures taken myself, so parden lousy quality..

 

[Des126]

It is GIA certified. I did consider upgrading my diamond back with them. The problem is if I upgrade back with them, I'll only be getting the same quality diamond but bigger. I emailed them asking for pictures of the diamond if I were to upgrade but they seem very unwilling to give me any photos Can only choose by seeing the certificate. Like this, I'll be back to square one again with a dull but bigger diamond. I might have to bite the bullet on this one and re-set it to something else. Going to take it to Jannpaul this Saturday and ask for their opinion

Have you tried cleaning the ring before you compare it with other ring? I doubt the 3EX would have so much difference in term of light return unless it is a steep and deep cut with Crown angle > 35., Pavilion Angle > 41 and Depth > 62%.

 

[Des126]

Hi guys,

I just bought a 1.16c last friday during yee poh warehouse sales at henderson( anyone heard of this supplier b4)

Spec: triple ex, G VS2, floren:none
Brilliant cut round
$18k
Is it reasonable?

Just browsed thru vivo diamond... How come my specs(slightly bigger c) cost only $13-$15k??

Is there any hidden cost at vivo?

There is no hidden cost except the GST. I am so sorry but you have overpaid for the stones.

I doubt you are getting Super Ideal H&A as so far JannPaul seems to be the only jeweller who carry True Super Ideal H&A in SIngapore.

For the price of 18k, i believe you are able to get a Super Ideal with better 3C (Color, Clarity & Carat) from JannPaul.

 

[Des126]

It is GIA certified. I did consider upgrading my diamond back with them. The problem is if I upgrade back with them, I'll only be getting the same quality diamond but bigger. I emailed them asking for pictures of the diamond if I were to upgrade but they seem very unwilling to give me any photos Can only choose by seeing the certificate. Like this, I'll be back to square one again with a dull but bigger diamond. I might have to bite the bullet on this one and re-set it to something else. Going to take it to Jannpaul this Saturday and ask for their opinion

You can also try to contact Kelvin from White Dwarf at 92729420. Their office is at Trivex near Tai Seng MRT. I have been there before and their service is as good as JannPaul.

I remembered they have quite a numbe of 0.45 - 0.49 GIA 3EX H&A stone in their inventory during my previous visit. Another thing i like about them is they do accept appointment on Sunday.

 

[hnrch42]

Any idea if the new diamond is available at JP yet?

 

[KingKhan]

Yes, as babyjyo says, use the HCA Tool to help you filter out the bad performers. Here's the link; Holloway Cut Advisor | HCA Tool | PriceScope, just enter your diamond specs in there and see the score, a score under 2 is an indication of good performer, though the forumers here have higher expectation, so many would suggest 1.5 or below.

And also is your current Diamond already their Signature series? If it is, then you are probably right that you may get back the same quality diamond. But if not, then this might be the best choice that you have at the moment. JP will give valuable information to help you. But buying a 2nd diamond will definitely cost you more than upgrading.

I had a look at this piece, 0.50-Carat Blue Nile Signature Round Diamond, maybe you can consider upgrading to this, it has a HCA score of 1.1/1.4, depending on which report you use to make the calculation.

Hope this helps, good luck!

Thank you for your input and I’ll have a look on this diamond

But I’m quite set on my mind to reset my current diamond into a pendant and get a perfect diamond this time round. Cause I really quite disappointed in bluenile and I’ve kind of lost faith in online diamond purchase, it’ll be quite painful to go through all these again if the 2nd diamond turns out to have the same look with the one I’m having now.

I’m quite determined to only buy diamonds whereby I can see it with my own eyes before the purchase is made. I trust my own eyes more hah

I’ve had a look with JP, didn’t know there are actually much more information that one can fish out besides the certificate of the diamond. The session I’ve had with them is very comprehensive and I’ve learnt that HCA score ain’t totally 100% accurate.

Got to know the best way to check a diamond would still be through different scopes etc. Ideal Scope, ASET Scope, H&A Scope.

 

[Des126]

Thank you for your input and I’ll have a look on this diamond

But I’m quite set on my mind to reset my current diamond into a pendant and get a perfect diamond this time round. Cause I really quite disappointed in bluenile and I’ve kind of lost faith in online diamond purchase, it’ll be quite painful to go through all these again if the 2nd diamond turns out to have the same look with the one I’m having now.

I’m quite determined to only buy diamonds whereby I can see it with my own eyes before the purchase is made. I trust my own eyes more hah

I’ve had a look with JP, didn’t know there are actually much more information that one can fish out besides the certificate of the diamond. The session I’ve had with them is very comprehensive and I’ve learnt that HCA score ain’t totally 100% accurate.

Got to know the best way to check a diamond would still be through different scopes etc. Ideal Scope, ASET Scope, H&A Scope.

Did you manage to get any stone from JP?