Any folks on Viewqwest fibre?

[chaicka]

Single channel b/w @2.4G is 65mbps theoretical max so 40+ is a good result. Can forget about 40Mhz as our environment is too crowded to support the connection.

Also good to see mobile devices slowly supporting dual stream in both 2.4/5 Ghz bands for faster wireless access.

The 2.4GHz upstream chart seems a little abnormal and I believe could have performed better if there isn't so congested/crowded in my neighborhood.

 

[darkmatt]

We already provide you with IPv6 transit, so you don't need to use this.

somehow, VQ's native ipv6 cant work on my asus N66

 

[voiceoflove]

so excited for my apple tv and my raptor 200 plan =D

 

[darkmatt]

In an ideal world, yes that feature should work as its original designed objective. In reality, it doesn't and has far more implications. I am sure there are already plentiful of articles out there that mentioned about the cons of this feature and its implications.



Yup... I also left with 1 piece of device that still only operates in 2.4GHz - IP Cam. Otherwise, I can and will be glad to retire the 2.4GHz WLAN or keep it only for guest use.

get a 5.0GHz ip cam. lol

 

[chaicka]

somehow, VQ's native ipv6 cant work on my asus N66

Device firmware problem?

There are a few consumer-class routers that have been tested to work... (putting what router I use aside since it's not consumer-class).

 

[chaicka]

get a 5.0GHz ip cam. lol

Save up now for a much better IP Cam (biz-class) for upcoming new house.

 

[darkmatt]

Device firmware problem?

There are a few consumer-class routers that have been tested to work... (putting what router I use aside since it's not consumer-class).

cant be. im on merlin firmware already.

when i enable VQ native ipv6, ipv4 loses connectivity too...

so i can only run ipv4.

tested the 6in4 tunnel and it works..

so its definately not my side.

 

[wkweksl]

In an ideal world, yes that feature should work as its original designed objective. In reality, it doesn't and has far more implications. I am sure there are already plentiful of articles out there that mentioned about the cons of this feature and its implications.

It does work on the n66u so it really saves the hassle of doing a wireless scan every now and then to find the least congested channel. Maybe the more recent wireless socs and drivers are finally putting their act together.

 

[wkweksl]

The 2.4GHz upstream chart seems a little abnormal and I believe could have performed better if there isn't so congested/crowded in my neighborhood.

Don't think so. I get similar pecularities on iPad 3rd gen. Upload usually freezes momentarily at ~70% hence the overall result suffers.

 

[wkweksl]

cant be. im on merlin firmware already.

when i enable VQ native ipv6, ipv4 loses connectivity too...

so i can only run ipv4.

tested the 6in4 tunnel and it works..

so its definately not my side.

Don't think most consumer grade routers are quite native ipv6 ready even if the firmware supports it. Even VQ is pushing zhone for ipv6.

On another note many forget that the zhone is actually quite a good router. Only UI and wireless lacking in features/coverage. I don't see many consumer routers capable of doing the >200mbps speeds plans that VQ is offering unless you go enterprise grade. 6in4 is stop gap. Native is the way to go.

Seriously consider the higher end mikrotiks or upcoming edgerouter lite if on >200mbps or if signing 2 or more RSPs. That's the price to pay for being a discerning user cos only these have the necessary feature set/customisability and not break too big a hole in your pocket!

 

[chaicka]

Don't think most consumer grade routers are quite native ipv6 ready even if the firmware supports it. Even VQ is pushing zhone for ipv6.

Can't remember what are the consumer-grade routers VQ tested before. I think even a much public-disliked Airport Extreme works.

On another note many forget that the zhone is actually quite a good router. Only UI and wireless lacking in features/coverage. I don't see many consumer routers capable of doing the >200mbps speeds plans that VQ is offering unless you go enterprise grade. 6in4 is stop gap. Native is the way to go.

Yup. Nothing beats native IPv6.

Seriously consider the higher end mikrotiks or upcoming edgerouter lite if on >200mbps or if signing 2 or more RSPs. That's the price to pay for being a discerning user cos only these have the necessary feature set/customisability and not break too big a hole in your pocket!

Hehehe... Good recommendations.

 

[kitsura]

Maybe I get my company sell me the old fortigate for cheap.

 

[wkweksl]

somehow, VQ's native ipv6 cant work on my asus N66

Dun worry you're not alone. Tried native ipv6 on openwrt some time ago also without success although someone eventually managed to get it running natively.

With fiber now onstream, one has to look into getting appropriate and capable routers that can handle the tasks. When the speeds go up, can the hardware keep up if you upgrade the plan. Not to mention the additional features like ipv6, qos, load balancing, wan failover, firewall etc that you might also want to add on.

 

[chaicka]

It does work on the n66u so it really saves the hassle of doing a wireless scan every now and then to find the least congested channel. Maybe the more recent wireless socs and drivers are finally putting their act together.

Here is the scenario for cons of auto-channeling in a very crowded WLANs environment:

Router A to L are enabled with auto-channeling and all other routers M to Z are on static channels spread across 2.4GHz available channels.

Background: In the evening/night hours when most households are occupied and its residents are accessing internet.

As usage are usually sporadic (momentarily), some channels will get utilization surges while some channels are less utilized. Let's say router A detects its channel 9 is congested with interference and change to channel 1. During the change, there is short lag/gap before the client devices also switch to channel 1. This itself may disrupt existing use(s) on the client devices - dependent on the type of use. Surfing is fine, file downloads/torrent is quite alright, but gaming (live traffic multi-player) may be badly affected.

Let's say router B originally being on channel 1 detects the congestion after router A's channel switch, it starts to look for a less congested and toggle to channel 3. The cycle goes on and on with all the routers A-L.

In a crowded environment where 30-50% of the routers are using auto-channeling, it can be quite disruptive and also affects users' experience on their usage (depending on what they use/doing) of the internet connection.

Most non-IT savvy users will have an impression that the ISP's connection is lousy, spikey, etc. Some to the extend of complaining in forums and logging calls to ISP's helpdesk even for the tiniest bit of lag/pause that is caused by their WiFi switching channel.

Summary:
The auto-channeling feature is good if users have high tolerance level and their usage is not sensitive.

 

[chaicka]

Maybe I get my company sell me the old fortigate for cheap.

Sometimes used Cisco (business/enterprise-class, not those linksys-turned-Cisco) routers can be relatively cheap too, especially those auctioning off in bulk.

 

[wkweksl]

Can't remember what are the consumer-grade routers VQ tested before. I think even a much public-disliked Airport Extreme works.

Can't recall but not many really. N66U was supposed to be one of them. AE is ok but it won't satisfy 90% here!

 

[wkweksl]

Here is the scenario for cons of auto-channeling in a very crowded WLANs environment:

You got a point there. Actually the transition should only affect the wireless segment. LAN should not be affected, well depends on how it's implemented on the router os. Gamers generally should be on wired since latency is paramount.

I don't recall the n66u skipping channels so much though I can see >20 aps in the evenings. It's only a rare channel change sometimes not at all from what I can see from the logs. It's generally stable so I left it on auto.

 

[viewqwest]

There is new line consumer wireless routers which we have been testing. Initial testing results have been very positive. They support IPv6 as well. Stay tuned and we will be posting some info on them.

 

[wkweksl]

There is new line consumer wireless routers which we have been testing. Initial testing results have been very positive. They support IPv6 as well. Stay tuned and we will be posting some info on them.

More poison! ubnt?

 

[wkweksl]

Maybe I get my company sell me the old fortigate for cheap.

Write off better!