was asking but i think nobody here use before.
Currently using redken dishevel fiber cream. not that bad. good for quiff.
if you want medium hold and shine, can try hanz de fuko scheme cream, currently using it, gonna pair it with sea salt spray after i get my hands on.
if more matt, probably try their quicksand or sponge wax.
i shld be ordering their 3 pack to try. heard their quicksand and sponge wax is quite awesome.
Hanz de Fuko - Buy 3 - Get One Free Wax Offer - Hair Wax - Slikhaar
after shipping, around 20-24 per tub.