help in choosing which backpack

Din0saurus

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from what i saw in osprey web, they only have this 50L model

Atmos 50 - Osprey Packs, Inc :2014: Official Site

mostly is around 60. is it better to get larger than smaller?

thanks

the 35 has been discontinued. before i bought my bagpack i made a mental list of things to pack. that will give you a good gauge of the size you need. also, remember the usual rule of bringing half of the clothes you think you need and twice the money if you're new to this.

what kind of activities are you up to? if there's nothing too physical, i really like dilphinus' recommendation. otherwise, test the bags. the atmos fits my body really well and the load is distributed so it doesn't feel as heavy as it should. my other osprey with no frame failed terribly at this. felt heavier than the atmos although it was half the weight because the entire load is on your shoulders. of course i learn to live with not being able to lock my bags and the top loading though. the mesh outer pocket is great for wet clothes when i finish my last dive and have to move on before i can dry them and also for slippers.

run through your itinerary in your head and thing about how you need to pack.
 

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currently i shortlisted 2 bag.

ATMOS 50 | Sports Connection --- this only top load.

The North Face*Equipment*New Arrivals*TERRA 50 -- this i think can open from below too.

I havent check out price between this 2. will head to queensway to check out. anyone know roughly how much is this 2?

thank u so much


I remember seeing the ATMOS on sale at Sport Connection shaw tower branch at 50% off. less than $200. but cant remember which size, and dunno still available or not
 

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Hi guys, i'm getting my backpack real soon for my solo trip and gonna invest to get a good one for long term basis. Many backpacker here gave good recommendation and comments about not getting a big backpack. Basically I wanted to get the north face Terra series.

The North Face*Equipment*New Arrivals*TERRA 50
The North Face*Equipment*New Arrivals*TERRA 65

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izbsbiOS55o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFEbuI6DfI0

Firstly I do not really know which size to get. Initially i wanted to get a 65L, some kind hearted guy here gave me advice not to get so big as I will have problem carrying it around especially during hot weather. But after seeing video from youtube, i'm not sure whether 50L is enough. It's the first time i'm getting a backpack and wanted to start travelling with backpack alone. Hope all the pro and experienced backpacker can give me some advice and comment. This time i will be going backpack for around 7 days. But in future i might for for more days.

Also read from here, people advice going to queensway and chinatown to purchase the backpack at cheaper price. anyone got specific shop or person to share? Any advices or comments is welcome. Hope to learn more from u guys. thank you!!!

where are u going for 7days ?? you dont really need 50L for 7days..
I went to Myanmar for 11 days currently. and i uses a 25L cheapo backpack..

Just my pov, north face is very exp.... it is like LV or gucci among all backpack brand.

I have a 45L backpack from High Sierra...
http://youtu.be/W4yWzAkR6C4
 

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where are u going for 7days ?? you dont really need 50L for 7days..
I went to Myanmar for 11 days currently. and i uses a 25L cheapo backpack..

Just my pov, north face is very exp.... it is like LV or gucci among all backpack brand.

I have a 45L backpack from High Sierra...
http://youtu.be/W4yWzAkR6C4

I'm heading to hk. Trying to bring more clothes as weather is cold. And also I must buy for future use not just for this time.
 

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I'm heading to hk. Trying to bring more clothes as weather is cold. And also I must buy for future use not just for this time.

Weather is cold, you don't need more clothes. You need the right/appropriate clothes.

Invest in a good jacket too. With a hoodie and preferably wind/water resistant/proof.
 

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If light weight is important, try looking at the Osprey Hornet 32L or 46L. They are top loading backpacks, good Osprey quality, and very lightweight. They are, in fact, the lightest mainstream backpacks in the world, barring niche players.

I use the 32L version, which weighs in at 600 grams (yes, not much heavier than most people's daypacks). I got mine at Sports Connection for $165. These bags are so light that you can use them as your daypack too (I disconnect the top cover which shaves off 100 grams for this purpose, giving me a daypack weighing 500 grams).

Obviously these packs won't be as sturdy as those other backpacks that are twice as heavy, but if you don't overpack, they will work fine up to 8-10kg of load. On my last trip, my pack was 4.5kg in total, including 2 changes of clothes, 1 ultralight down jacket, 1 fleece sweater, and 1 rain/wind jacket, and the usual toiletries, chargers, etc.

Pack light, pack little, and enjoy your trip.
 

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I'm heading to hk. Trying to bring more clothes as weather is cold. And also I must buy for future use not just for this time.

Hong Kong is chilly, not cold. You can probably get by with an insulating layer like a a fleece jacket or a ultralight down jacket, and maybe 1 outershell in case it gets really windy or it rains. If you have poor chill tolerance, an extra layer for your legs may be needed, but I doubt it.

These few items won't take up much space and weight.
 

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Hong Kong is chilly, not cold. You can probably get by with an insulating layer like a a fleece jacket or a ultralight down jacket, and maybe 1 outershell in case it gets really windy or it rains. If you have poor chill tolerance, an extra layer for your legs may be needed, but I doubt it.

These few items won't take up much space and weight.

Yes bro u are right. Therefore I think my bag will be only half filled. But I am also buying for future use which I may go backpack longer. For long term must also consider future use ma. I think 50L okay ba.
 

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Yes bro u are right. Therefore I think my bag will be only half filled. But I am also buying for future use which I may go backpack longer. For long term must also consider future use ma. I think 50L okay ba.

I think your mentality is wrong.

I assume that you think 7 days trip need 25L, hence your "future" so-called longer road trips need 50L.

Unless you are really going for outdoor camping, I think you should buy a smaller bagpack to train yourself NOT to overpack for long trips.

In fact, if you can survive 7 days with 25L, then you can survive a month with 25L too. The key is really about investing in good quality gear (easy to wash and dry), good personal hygiene (so that you can wear clothes more than once) and being very conscientious in washing your laundry on a daily basis.

You can also try setting aside one set of clothes for sleeping only. Then everyday when you come back to hotel/hostel after travelling, you can change out of your dirty clothes to wash and wear your PJ.

Then technically for any long trips, you only need one PJ, max two change of clothes packed and the clothes that you are already wearing on urself. Don't bring your entire wardrobe to go there and fashion show.
 

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I think your mentality is wrong.

I assume that you think 7 days trip need 25L, hence your "future" so-called longer road trips need 50L.

Unless you are really going for outdoor camping, I think you should buy a smaller bagpack to train yourself NOT to overpack for long trips.

In fact, if you can survive 7 days with 25L, then you can survive a month with 25L too. The key is really about investing in good quality gear (easy to wash and dry), good personal hygiene (so that you can wear clothes more than once) and being very conscientious in washing your laundry on a daily basis.

You can also try setting aside one set of clothes for sleeping only. Then everyday when you come back to hotel/hostel after travelling, you can change out of your dirty clothes to wash and wear your PJ.

Then technically for any long trips, you only need one PJ, max two change of clothes packed and the clothes that you are already wearing on urself. Don't bring your entire wardrobe to go there and fashion show.

thanks bro for ur advice. appreciate it.
 

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This is excellent advice, and I follow the same principles.

Whether you travel for 7 days or 1 year, you bring exactly the same things. The only difference is that your toiletries will run out and need to be replaced, that's all. Your 2-3 sets of clothes, washed every night, will last indefinitely.


I think your mentality is wrong.

I assume that you think 7 days trip need 25L, hence your "future" so-called longer road trips need 50L.

Unless you are really going for outdoor camping, I think you should buy a smaller bagpack to train yourself NOT to overpack for long trips.

In fact, if you can survive 7 days with 25L, then you can survive a month with 25L too. The key is really about investing in good quality gear (easy to wash and dry), good personal hygiene (so that you can wear clothes more than once) and being very conscientious in washing your laundry on a daily basis.

You can also try setting aside one set of clothes for sleeping only. Then everyday when you come back to hotel/hostel after travelling, you can change out of your dirty clothes to wash and wear your PJ.

Then technically for any long trips, you only need one PJ, max two change of clothes packed and the clothes that you are already wearing on urself. Don't bring your entire wardrobe to go there and fashion show.
 

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This is excellent advice, and I follow the same principles.

Whether you travel for 7 days or 1 year, you bring exactly the same things. The only difference is that your toiletries will run out and need to be replaced, that's all. Your 2-3 sets of clothes, washed every night, will last indefinitely.

i got what u mean. example if a 35L and 50L the price difference is not alot. I think we should get 50L? In case u need more space still gt space for things. If 50L u under utilize, actually still can use and the bag will be compress smaller. I don't know what I say is correct. Trying to learn from everyone here.
 

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I used to have the same mentality. Why not get more space for just $30 more? But from experience (I've been through the same journey), the extra capacity is pretty much unnecessary. My first significant trip was using a 60L Deuter. What a miserable experience lugging the heavy backpack through the streets of Italy, and I swore through my sweat "never again".

All subsequent trips were using bags between 25-32L, and I couldn't be happier with the massive reduction.

Having alot of free space encourages an inexperience person to overpack. Extra unnecessary items become "I'll bring it just in case since I have plenty of space".

Also remember that the bigger your bag is, the more likely you'll get asked to weigh your bag by the airport ground staff. If your 50L bag is full, it is likely to exceed the carry on weight and size limit, which will be an issue if you are planning on hand-carrying your bag. If your 50L is not full, then you don't need a 50L bag in the first place.

But if you are really uncomfortable with bringing a small bag, then go ahead and buy the bigger bag. What's important is that you are comfortable with your choice, and you make your own cuts and reductions at your own pace. We can only share our experience so that you accelerate your learning process and don't have to suffer the same way we did.

Once you've gone on a few trips and have more or less whittled down your luggage to a small set of core items and know how much space is needed, you can still buy a smaller bag and sell off your big bag.

PS: save a little space in your bag for food. Sometimes, it's nice to buy some food and snacks which may occupy quite a bit of space.


i got what u mean. example if a 35L and 50L the price difference is not alot. I think we should get 50L? In case u need more space still gt space for things. If 50L u under utilize, actually still can use and the bag will be compress smaller. I don't know what I say is correct. Trying to learn from everyone here.
 

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I think anything above 50L for short trips in city places, might as well use a luggage and don't do backpacking. Or if you are bringing 50L plus additional daypack or smallbag, bring a luggage.
 

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Spuispui

To help you decide, perhaps you can gather all the things you intend to bring for your HK trip. Put them into an existing bag that you have with a known capacity, and see how full it is. Also see if the luggage is too heavy, and make changes accordingly. This will help you decide how big a bag you need.

My packing list is something like this (not including what I'm wearing on person):
  • 2 quick dry TShirts (100% polyester)
  • 1 pair quick dry underwear (polyester or microfibre)
  • 1 pair shorts (also double as swimming trunks or emergency underwear)
  • 1 pair quick dry socks
  • 1 small towel
  • Sometimes, I add a long sleeve business shirt. This is useful for mild chilly weather, and also if you intend to have dinner in a nice place.
  • USB chargers and cables
  • Powerbank
  • Small alarm clock. Mine is this one:http://www.amazon.com/Casio-PQ-10-1-CASIO-Travel-Alarm/dp/B00006WNM7. It runs off LR44 button batteries and are the smallest I could find. Bought them for $12 at Mustafa many years ago. You can also just use your phone alarm, but I use this only when it is critical that I do not oversleep, such as when I'm catching a morning flight.
  • Spare spectacles
  • Spare phone. I'm totally dependent on my phone since all my travel plans, travel guides and maps are on my phone. So a spare is essential.
  • Small first aid kit - plasters, panadols, poh chai pills.
  • Small repair kit - thread, needle, short piece of duct tape, 2 meters string, safetypins.
  • Small toiletries bag - 30ml soap, 30ml shampoo, 30ml detergent, 15gram toothpaste, 1 toothbrush, 1 disposable shaver, universal sink plug (actually just a 10cm disc of rubber cut from insulating mat). Adjust washing liquids according to length of trip.
  • 1 sleep pouch, containing blindfold, earplugs, earphones, and small torchlight


For cold weather, I add:
  • 1 fleece or lambswool sweater
  • 1 ultralight down parka
  • 1 waterproof outer jacket
  • 1 lightweight long pants to be worn under my pants
  • 1 pair gloves
  • 1 scarf or buff
  • 1 extra pair of socks

On my person, I have:
  • 1 T-shirt
  • 1 pair zip-off convertible pants
  • 1 underwear
  • 1 watch with compass
  • 1 phone
  • 1 compact camera
  • 1 wallet
  • 1 money belt with passport.
  • 1 pair socks and shoes. These are quick dry hiking/watersports hybrid shoes(Columbia Powervent). They are designed to drain water and dry quickly and can also be worn without socks.

So you can see the stuff that goes into my backpack isn't very much. Without cold weather stuff, it is easily only around 3-3.5kg, and does not take up more than 20-25L of space. Cold weather stuff adds 1 kg and another 7-10L due to their puffy nature.

i got what u mean. example if a 35L and 50L the price difference is not alot. I think we should get 50L? In case u need more space still gt space for things. If 50L u under utilize, actually still can use and the bag will be compress smaller. I don't know what I say is correct. Trying to learn from everyone here.
 
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Spuispui

To help you decide, perhaps you can gather all the things you intend to bring for your HK trip. Put them into an existing bag that you have with a known capacity, and see how full it is. Also see if the luggage is too heavy, and make changes accordingly. This will help you decide how big a bag you need.

My packing list is something like this (not including what I'm wearing on person):
  • 2 quick dry TShirts (100% polyester)
  • 1 pair quick dry underwear (polyester or microfibre)
  • 1 pair shorts (also double as swimming trunks or emergency underwear)
  • 1 pair quick dry socks
  • 1 small towel
  • Sometimes, I add a long sleeve business shirt. This is useful for mild chilly weather, and also if you intend to have dinner in a nice place.
  • USB chargers and cables
  • Powerbank
  • Small alarm clock. Mine is this one:http://www.amazon.com/Casio-PQ-10-1-CASIO-Travel-Alarm/dp/B00006WNM7. It runs off LR44 button batteries and are the smallest I could find. Bought them for $12 at Mustafa many years ago. You can also just use your phone alarm, but I use this only when it is critical that I do not oversleep, such as when I'm catching a morning flight.
  • Spare spectacles
  • Spare phone. I'm totally dependent on my phone since all my travel plans, travel guides and maps are on my phone. So a spare is essential.
  • Small first aid kit - plasters, panadols, poh chai pills.
  • Small repair kit - thread, needle, short piece of duct tape, 2 meters string, safetypins.
  • Small toiletries bag - 30ml soap, 30ml shampoo, 30ml detergent, 15gram toothpaste, 1 toothbrush, 1 disposable shaver, universal sink plug (actually just a 10cm disc of rubber cut from insulating mat). Adjust washing liquids according to length of trip.
  • 1 sleep pouch, containing blindfold, earplugs, earphones, and small torchlight


For cold weather, I add:
  • 1 fleece or lambswool sweater
  • 1 ultralight down parka
  • 1 waterproof outer jacket
  • 1 lightweight long pants to be worn under my pants
  • 1 pair gloves
  • 1 scarf or buff
  • 1 extra pair of socks

On my person, I have:
  • 1 T-shirt
  • 1 pair zip-off convertible pants
  • 1 underwear
  • 1 watch with compass
  • 1 phone
  • 1 compact camera
  • 1 wallet
  • 1 money belt with passport.
  • 1 pair socks and shoes. These are quick dry hiking/watersports hybrid shoes(Columbia Powervent). They are designed to drain water and dry quickly and can also be worn without socks.

So you can see the stuff that goes into my backpack isn't very much. Without cold weather stuff, it is easily only around 3-3.5kg, and does not take up more than 20-25L of space. Cold weather stuff adds 1 kg and another 7-10L due to their puffy nature.

thank you bro. really appreciate ur time typing out all this. i believe it benefits alot of people here too.
 

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Selling Brand New Deuter Freerider 26 Litre Backpack / Hikking Bag - Black

Brand New, never open before!

Hi all, I've bought my backpack from Carousell seller Basic Illustration (they are selling Deuter backpack at quite cheap price compare to outside) for my boyfriend but he bought a similar one too T_T.

So selling mine away. Retail price @ $229. Bought mine at $190 and plan to let go at $180!!!!

Info of backpack:
-Weight: 1290 g
-Volume: 26 litre
-Size: 52 / 26 / 22 (H x W x D) cm

Please see original post of the backpack at: https:// carousell.com /p/ 19477483/ (no spacing)

Interested please PM me!

Thank you! =D
 
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