The Watch Thread - Part 8

[Henabi]

Miyota 9015

Nice....a very reliable movement

 

[LondoBell]

guys, emperor tuna or springdrive tuna??

im leaning towards SD coz the shroud is ceramic. but emperor looks more vintage

 

[Henabi]

Well... follow your heart... if you are trapped between two things

 

[Novelty77]

guys, emperor tuna or springdrive tuna??

im leaning towards SD coz the shroud is ceramic. but emperor looks more vintage

Is it your first watch? If it is i would recommend a cleaner dial, in this case w/o the power reserve.

Hi, may I know anyone had and deals with watchlink before? Is he realible?

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I deal with him a couple to times before. Price wise, lowest you can get in the market which is why is difficult to bargain the price any further. Avid Panerai collector as well.

Guys

while browsing some 2nd hand dealer company websites, I came across some timepieces listed as brand new 100% unworn.

Their statement is brand new 100%, warranty dated.

Buying from them, are there any advantages since the price they offered on their websites aren't that fantastic . Wouldn't I be better off buying from Authorized ADs?

Would service centres honor warranties for watches bought from non ADs?

I think you're mentioning about local preowned dealers right? See what u want online and go to their shop and try it on. I also dont advocate online purchases overseas. Prices are definitely not fantastic, it aint some factory outlet stores you know.. hahaha...

Better off buying from ADs? not really. Its dated because these watches are usually bought from overseas cheaper and needs to be stamped when purchased from the boutique. How they get it cheaper? Probably they are regular vip customer there and favourable exchange rates.

And like what teentitan01 mention, buying from AD only entails to one thing, you can develop a relationship with an AD sales rep that can translate to better discounts and perks for future purchases, even invites to their events for canapes & champagne but for people like me or teentitan01 where our purchases are mostly preowned, its hard to maintain a healthy relationship with your AD if you only purchase 1 watch from them.

So just let these guys do the PR for us. There's always the lemon law to protect you anyway. The local preown watch dealers are all pretty reputable and wont resort to petty fast cash tactics.

@teentitan01 Hi 5 for value buyer.

 

[sinistral]

Greetings from Prometheus Piranha

Hi bro

 

[slow_mo]

It's only Tuesday!!! I'm tired...

 

[LondoBell]

Is it your first watch? If it is i would recommend a cleaner dial, in this case w/o the power reserve.

nope. been craving for a tuna very long. just that old emperor shroud isnt ceramic and it being a big watch, sure bound to be scuffed

thts y still dk to take the plunge anot

 

[Donten]

guys, emperor tuna or springdrive tuna??

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im leaning towards SD coz the shroud is ceramic. but emperor looks more vintage

emperor. new hands and dial are ugly.

 

[TeenTitan01]

guys, emperor tuna or springdrive tuna??

im leaning towards SD coz the shroud is ceramic. but emperor looks more vintage

both are beautiful.

 

[patryn33]

Miyota 9015

Great watch! This is the most popular one in the collection great price
http://www.prometheuswatch.com/diver-watch-collection/prometheus-piranha/

 

[Spartanz.]

Is it your first watch? If it is i would recommend a cleaner dial, in this case w/o the power reserve.



I deal with him a couple to times before. Price wise, lowest you can get in the market which is why is difficult to bargain the price any further. Avid Panerai collector as well.






I think you're mentioning about local preowned dealers right? See what u want online and go to their shop and try it on. I also dont advocate online purchases overseas. Prices are definitely not fantastic, it aint some factory outlet stores you know.. hahaha...

Better off buying from ADs? not really. Its dated because these watches are usually bought from overseas cheaper and needs to be stamped when purchased from the boutique. How they get it cheaper? Probably they are regular vip customer there and favourable exchange rates.

And like what teentitan01 mention, buying from AD only entails to one thing, you can develop a relationship with an AD sales rep that can translate to better discounts and perks for future purchases, even invites to their events for canapes & champagne but for people like me or teentitan01 where our purchases are mostly preowned, its hard to maintain a healthy relationship with your AD if you only purchase 1 watch from them.

So just let these guys do the PR for us. There's always the lemon law to protect you anyway. The local preown watch dealers are all pretty reputable and wont resort to petty fast cash tactics.

@teentitan01 Hi 5 for value buyer.

Thks for the insights. And it seems these dealers are able to get hard to find models too.

Even if warranty cards are given, is it advisable to authenticate it just in case?

Am I right to say as long as warranty cards are given , no further action is needed to check it?

 

[Henabi]

Thks for the insights. And it seems these dealers are able to get hard to find models too.

Even if warranty cards are given, is it advisable to authenticate it just in case?

Am I right to say as long as warranty cards are given , no further action is needed to check it?

Well preowned watch deals such as HJ, CHUAN, JW, Monster are very reputable and their customers are not strictly locals. They have clients from overseas as well. Thus contributing to their varieties.

But of course they will also have overseas reputable suppliers too, which are in preowned watch business as well.

Not all watch brands are able to provide authentication services like Rolex. Some needs to be sent back to their HQ in Germany or Swiss. And it may takes weeks or months to know, due to freight.

If you wish to go "grey" or "preowned", it's best to ask questions about the servicing history of the watch, whether certain parts of the watch has been replaced and whether the replacement parts are original or 3rd party.
Most watch warranties are considered void, once they know that there are 3rd party parts in their watches.
So still highly recommend to check the authencity of the watch if possible.

 

[Novelty77]

Thks for the insights. And it seems these dealers are able to get hard to find models too.

Even if warranty cards are given, is it advisable to authenticate it just in case?

Am I right to say as long as warranty cards are given , no further action is needed to check it?

Most important is to make sure the documentation tally with the serial no., calibre no. As for new pieces warranty, there's 0.01% chance watch will be defected . The QC would be very stringent for watches that are discuss here.

Having said that, ironically i bought my ap ro BNIB and discovered a Tiny dust spec on the dial. AP will settle it immediately but I didn't want to wait for the downtime so I just let it be for now maybe until the 2 years warranty ending then I'll sent it in.

 

[shahir]

Most important is to make sure the documentation tally with the serial no., calibre no. As for new pieces warranty, there's 0.01% chance watch will be defected . The QC would be very stringent for watches that are discuss here.

Having said that, ironically i bought my ap ro BNIB and discovered a Tiny dust spec on the dial. AP will settle it immediately but I didn't want to wait for the downtime so I just let it be for now maybe until the 2 years warranty ending then I'll sent it in.

learning something new everyday .. didn't know that AP RO's warranty is 2 years.. perhaps I can ask for everyone's opinion in regards to the length of warranty period? Some brands/models carry 1 year, some 2 years and some 4 years.. i'm sure there could be practical reason/s from the manufacturer's standpoint but what's your view? should the warranty duration period be based on the price of the watch? brand? movement? etc? while some brands may boast that the probability of their watch breaking down is much lower than their competitor/s hence the shorter warranty period.. I honestly don't know.. what do you guys think? care to share?

 

[Henabi]

learning something new everyday .. didn't know that AP RO's warranty is 2 years.. perhaps I can ask for everyone's opinion in regards to the length of warranty period? Some brands/models carry 1 year, some 2 years and some 4 years.. i'm sure there could be practical reason/s from the manufacturer's standpoint but what's your view? should the warranty duration period be based on the price of the watch? brand? movement? etc? while some brands may boast that the probability of their watch breaking down is much lower than their competitor/s hence the shorter warranty period.. I honestly don't know.. what do you guys think? care to share?

new rolex watches bought from boutique or AD will be 5 years.
some brands don't even offer warranties.

watches bought from "grey" or preowned shops usually don't issue warranties at all, at most do a full refund if the watch happened to be a fake after authentication.

well, since nothing is perfect, things will spoil. For a brand new watch purchased from boutique or AD, its a matter of luck. Usually, boutique or AD will give a 7 to 14 days "grace period" for a one-to-one exchange, in the event there is something wrong with your watch or the watch movement.
whether defects to physical appearances and aesthetics will be covered within this grace period, depends entirely on the individual brands. because you are supposed to inspect your watch thoroughly before you confirm your purchase and sign on the dotted line.

For Novelty77's case, not too sure whether in two years time, AP will still remember that there was a tiny spec of dust on the dial and not charge Novelty77 extra maintenance fees. The argument being that AP offered to settle it there and then but Novelty77 turned down the offer...

having said so... coming back to another part of your question regarding watch movements...
now, watch movements which are available for other companies to buy to use in their watches and modify it according, such as ETA, Miyota, Seagull; these are very reputable and reliable movements which have been around for many, many years, and it is comparable with in-house movements.

You can look up brands like Hamilton, IWC, Omega, Tudor, Panerai, Breitling, which use eta movements and they don't hide it.

but of course, the thing about in-house movements is that the entire manufacturing process is 100% regulated. Any defects in the movement will be removed immediately before it is even able to make its way into the watch assembly line...

ALS is the perfect example for QC on making in-house movements.

according to iceflight dai dai gor... ALS will assemble each movement, break it all down and then re-assemble the movement again.
If a defect appears anywhere along this line... *POOF* you're out!!!

and one last thing, all SAs will guide you how to wind up your watch and will repeatedly advise you to be gentle with the crown and don't be too rough with it...

 

[soilwork]

Guest appearance of my boy"s gmt2c with his huffy elephant. Cant wait for the day i can give him this piece

 

[Alexleeweiqiang]

My 6mth old watch

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[Novelty77]

For Novelty77's case, not too sure whether in two years time, AP will still remember that there was a tiny spec of dust on the dial and not charge Novelty77 extra maintenance fees. The argument being that AP offered to settle it there and then but Novelty77 turned down the offer... QUOTE]

Its just a small issue, They will have to remove the whole watch anyway when they service. Anyway I will just complain here if that day come and they refuse. Just a tip, when u go back to the authorise service center, being a kiasu Singaporean, ask for free travel pouch. When I purchase a new strap for my patek, the kind receptionist gave me a PP leather travel pouch with emboss calatrava logo.

learning something new everyday .. didn't know that AP RO's warranty is 2 years.. perhaps I can ask for everyone's opinion in regards to the length of warranty period? Some brands/models carry 1 year, some 2 years and some 4 years.. i'm sure there could be practical reason/s from the manufacturer's standpoint but what's your view? should the warranty duration period be based on the price of the watch? brand? movement? etc? while some brands may boast that the probability of their watch breaking down is much lower than their competitor/s hence the shorter warranty period.. I honestly don't know.. what do you guys think? care to share?

For Ap its 2+1 where u can register online ending the end of your 2 years for another year extension. they will send u a certification of extension. Where and how? I haven't register yet. will update here when I do..
A very good qns abt the warranty period, i'm curious myself. But end of the day still your 命水 hahaha.. Suay your watch just bo tai bo ji spoilt, some people treat their watch like **** still works like a workhorse. Heng suay la.

Happy mid-week guys!

 

[Henabi]

For Novelty77's case, not too sure whether in two years time, AP will still remember that there was a tiny spec of dust on the dial and not charge Novelty77 extra maintenance fees. The argument being that AP offered to settle it there and then but Novelty77 turned down the offer... QUOTE]

Its just a small issue, They will have to remove the whole watch anyway when they service. Anyway I will just complain here if that day come and they refuse. Just a tip, when u go back to the authorise service center, being a kiasu Singaporean, ask for free travel pouch. When I purchase a new strap for my patek, the kind receptionist gave me a PP leather travel pouch with emboss calatrava logo.



For Ap its 2+1 where u can register online ending the end of your 2 years for another year extension. they will send u a certification of extension. Where and how? I haven't register yet. will update here when I do..
A very good qns abt the warranty period, i'm curious myself. But end of the day still your 命水 hahaha.. Suay your watch just bo tai bo ji spoilt, some people treat their watch like **** still works like a workhorse. Heng suay la.

Happy mid-week guys!

Jin swee PP!!!!!
If possible, can take a screenie of the PP travel pouch? Embossed logo make me very curious...

 

[Spartanz.]

Most important is to make sure the documentation tally with the serial no., calibre no. As for new pieces warranty, there's 0.01% chance watch will be defected . The QC would be very stringent for watches that are discuss here.

Having said that, ironically i bought my ap ro BNIB and discovered a Tiny dust spec on the dial. AP will settle it immediately but I didn't want to wait for the downtime so I just let it be for now maybe until the 2 years warranty ending then I'll sent it in.

Speaking of dust, just got my IWC back, serviced from IWC hq in Switzerland, as usual, a few dust specs, hands got blemishes , all seen in normal daylight. Paid about 700 ..

Feel abit ripped off but dont think I gona sent it back cause they will add in additional dust or blemishes for sure.

Better to leave it alone if it's just a tiny spec.

There will be dusts in every single watch dial , just a matter of when u spot it and how OCD r u. Heck, I even when to a boutique before and saw a big dust particle in a brand new Submariner .