[ROTK] Wei, Wu, Shu

[Paull33lampard]

Liu bei only know how to cry and claim to descend from some aristocrat i mean royalty. The his son ah dou totally cannot make it only listen to prostateless eunuch.

Is Cheng Du West Shu's capital? Perhaps Ah Dou became too complacent after living a good life...

 

[bonkbonk]

So out of the 3, do you think East Wu / Sun Quan is the better power?

If sun jiao, or sun ce is around longer... They would have been a bigger threat to cao cao or even got han dynasty back together, they had the land, man power and advantage very early on during dong zhuo era...

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[bonkbonk]

Is Cheng Du West Shu's capital? Perhaps Ah Dou became too complacent after living a good life...

Ah dou towards the end just want the lifestyle, he dun care got power anot. Useless piece of sheet, waste zhao yun efforts to save him

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[Paull33lampard]

Guan yu also a messed up personnel...
Cannot differentiate the importance of matters...

At 吃屁 war, he should have just killed caocao to make life better for his swore brother liu bei n for the better of han dynasty.. but he let him good cos caocao treat him go when he wanted to recruit him...

Act like so high moral , yet ego also problem...

Only thing good abt him is his ultimate loyalty to liu bei... Which alot of other general also can do.

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Cao Cao let him off before right? He 过五关斩六将 during that instance. Did Liu Bei gave him military punishment for that big mistake?

 

[bonkbonk]

Cao Cao let him off before right? He 过五关斩六将 during that instance. Did Liu Bei gave him military punishment for that big mistake?

Zhugeliang purposely give guan yu the last station to "repay" the moral debt... Knn one if zgl know can finish him off, should just send any tom dick harry also can liao cos last station all tired n surrendering...

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[cryptocraft]

If all general age equal and fight...

Lu bu will be first, no doubt abt it.
Zhang fei, guan yu, ma chao, zhao yun, pang de, zhang liao fight for 2nd though likely guan yu will win narrowly...

Others include xiaohou dun, xiaohou yuan, huang zhong, gan ning, taicishi of sun ce

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actually i think xu chu and dian wei ranks up there ... i think dian wei and lu bu can fight 1v1 tought fight.

 

[Paull33lampard]

If all general age equal and fight...

Lu bu will be first, no doubt abt it.
Zhang fei, guan yu, ma chao, zhao yun, pang de, zhang liao fight for 2nd though likely guan yu will win narrowly...

Others include xiaohou dun, xiaohou yuan, huang zhong, gan ning, taicishi of sun ce

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Most of the good fighters come under Liu Bei. However, Cao Cao's Wei still reigned supreme. If Liu Bei and Sun Quan could form alliance for a longer period, things could be very different.

 

[upslorry]

So Guan Yu only regard Zhang Fei and Zhao Yun as the Tiger generals?

At first , yes

 

[upslorry]

When Wu joined forces with Wei to retrieve Jing Zhou, it's the start of the downfall of Shu?

yes basically

 

[upslorry]

Is Cheng Du West Shu's capital? Perhaps Ah Dou became too complacent after living a good life...

yes.

I just visited CHeng Du last month on holiday. They got many products on Shu generals' name. Such as Zhang Fei Beef, Guan Yu Beef, Toys on Zhuge Liang, ZHuge Liang fan, Liu Bei badge, and also i was at ZHuge Liang's temple.

 

[upslorry]

Cao Cao let him off before right? He 过五关斩六将 during that instance. Did Liu Bei gave him military punishment for that big mistake?

ZHuge Liang knew Guan Yu would let Cao Cao off. The pledge was that if Guan Yu let him off, he would die as punishment. But Zhuge Liang "pretend" to want to execute him, but in the end under other general's talk to let him off, "pretend" to let him go but would demote him. ZHuge Liang also demoted himself.

 

[ghaleonn]

Anyone read Reverse SGZ?
Its even more pro-SHU.. Ma Chao is like everywhere sia.
Quite entertainment but IMO, not as good as the original SGYY.

 

[Paull33lampard]

If sun jiao, or sun ce is around longer... They would have been a bigger threat to cao cao or even got han dynasty back together, they had the land, man power and advantage very early on during dong zhuo era...

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Would it be fair to say The Sun family is more loyal to Han dynasty?

 

[Paull33lampard]

Ah dou towards the end just want the lifestyle, he dun care got power anot. Useless piece of sheet, waste zhao yun efforts to save him

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Liu Bei has other sons as well? Why Ah Dou is the chosen one?

 

[upslorry]

Anyone read Reverse SGZ?
Its even more pro-SHU.. Ma Chao is like everywhere sia.
Quite entertainment but IMO, not as good as the original SGYY.

if you read the Japanese's novel Cho Sangokushi "Super Three Kingdom"
the Shu kingdom win the war and conquered CHina

 

[Paull33lampard]

Zhugeliang purposely give guan yu the last station to "repay" the moral debt... Knn one if zgl know can finish him off, should just send any tom dick harry also can liao cos last station all tired n surrendering...

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You mean Zhugeliang wants Guan Yu to be able to fight without any guilt towards Cao Cao in future?

 

[Paull33lampard]

actually i think xu chu and dian wei ranks up there ... i think dian wei and lu bu can fight 1v1 tought fight.

Based on San Guo Zhi or Yan Yi? They don't seem to be very popular.

 

[ghaleonn]

if you read the Japanese's novel Cho Sangokushi "Super Three Kingdom"
the Shu kingdom win the war and conquered CHina

Wow...still got japanese version ah.
THe Reverse SGZ I read also SHU unify CHINA. Dun know same story or not.

 

[bonkbonk]

"死诸葛能走生仲达。”

How they tell pple just how damn good zgl was ...

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[upslorry]

Would it be fair to say The Sun family is more loyal to Han dynasty?

THe Sun clan are not loyal to Han, maybe only SUn Jian (Sun Quan's father) who attacked Dong ZHuo who ill treated the emperor
but SUn Jian found the Emperor's imperial Seal and didnt want to return it

At least Cao Cao still didnt dare to declare himself emperor and he gave the Han emperor a good life and protected him, it was only his sons that removed the Han emperor