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Remless 23-01-2019 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordsman (Post 118794042)
i don't really care about pvp. i wanna plow through pve content.

if i want play pvp, i go play fighting game already. :s13:

if this game main focus is on pvp, then i don't think i will be playing long.

cos when come to pvp most of the time, people showing off their e-peen

The pvp in this game has 2 forms.
1. Usual arena where u fight bots that the players put up as a defense team. Can treat as a pve content since all are AI controlled.

2. 'World' arena where u fight real-time. In my TW server, this mode has very few players. So the matches are grossly mismatched. Either I will be fighting players of much lower lvl than me, or fighting against players that are much higher than me. Not sure what will be the gl situation for this arena, but this can be ignored.

PVP is not the main focus on this game, but helps in getting more pulling resources, equips and the 2nd chance class path mat. Of course, these are not exclusive to arena and can be obtained from other means.

tidusboi 23-01-2019 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Remless (Post 118792221)
Noteworthy SRs near SSR level in terms of power and usefulness

https://i.imgur.com/5SHRUYQ_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Chris. Poor girl who is the only MC of a langrisser game who did not get SSR treatment. Her abilities is SSR level though.

Undead/Monster killer. Damage and aoe heal teammate irregardless of the range from her. Damage and self heal. Random positive buffs on a teammate near her.

https://i.imgur.com/Jb902Ew_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Sofia. Under-rated healer. As I mentioned, her aoe reset all allies' skills in range is godly. She has the most aoe heal skills out of all healers, beating even SSR healers.

https://i.imgur.com/pXs6aV6_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Freya. OP tank of almost cheating lvl. Hits and damage even before entering into the battle screen. Sometime even killing units of low hp even before battle starts. After battle, hits again. An absolute great ally on your side, an absolute nuisance in pvp on enemy side.


https://i.imgur.com/bejJZJE_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Sonia. Good sub for Leon if you don't have him. Fast and hits hard.

https://i.imgur.com/kYvjoCo_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Vargas. Our baldy tank. Sturdy and has a self ress. Ress himself when he is killed once per stage.


https://i.imgur.com/aDw4GB3_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Eggbert. The reknown goblin slayer. (Excels in the goblin stage for farming gold).
Lot of aoe. After he cast his dmging aoe, he burns again on everyone who got hit with the aoe. (ie, 2 aoe hits in one turn)

https://i.imgur.com/rfW3ZiY_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Fana. AOE phy archer. Her archer class and flyer class are very good.

https://i.imgur.com/sFeN7Zi_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

Imelda. Sorceress of the empire team. Great aoe ability and mass attack buff. Usually seen in pvp.


Bottomline: SSR are good but are mainly icing of the cake. A good team of SRs can beat anything in pve and pvp. (Especially Chris. Lol. My opponents tend to underestimate her and leave her alive, but she is the one that turns the tide.)

Which is probably why even SRs has a fairly low rate in this game compared to other games... at only 13%.

Lol. Remless senpai play what game also got such indept insight.

Swordsman 23-01-2019 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Remless (Post 118794258)
The pvp in this game has 2 forms.
1. Usual arena where u fight bots that the players put up as a defense team. Can treat as a pve content since all are AI controlled.

2. 'World' arena where u fight real-time. In my TW server, this mode has very few players. So the matches are grossly mismatched. Either I will be fighting players of much lower lvl than me, or fighting against players that are much higher than me. Not sure what will be the gl situation for this arena, but this can be ignored.

PVP is not the main focus on this game, but helps in getting more pulling resources, equips and the 2nd chance class path mat. Of course, these are not exclusive to arena and can be obtained from other means.

first one still ok as AI is still not as smart as human.

good to know. if not die die must do pvp whether i like it or hate it.

all the gatcha games i just do pvp to compete the daily quest.

Remless 23-01-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tidusboi (Post 118794297)
Lol. Remless senpai play what game also got such indept insight.

Cos' I managed to get every SR in the game. But of course lah, I have preferences. I tend not to use footman, horsemen and rogues. My team has more mages, healers, pikemen and flyers. So these are not really insights, but contains my personal bias. Lol.

But really, this game is not those 'Wah, I have SSR, I can rule the world' type of game, nor is it those get SSR can auto all the way shitto game. This game is hard, challenging and frustrating at times even for story battles.

Like what Swordsman said earlier in this thread, the battles are not a walk in the park. But it is these challenges that I feel that I am playing a game. Not the game playing on its own.

Remless 23-01-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordsman (Post 118794381)
first one still ok as AI is still not as smart as human.

good to know. if not die die must do pvp whether i like it or hate it.

all the gatcha games i just do pvp to compete the daily quest.

Ah.. bad news. One of the daily u need to do the normal arena bot pvp and win one match. Lol.

AI is still not as smart as human U maybe surprised how smart the AI can be, exploiting the weaknesses in your formation.

This is a battle chess game, so its like playing chess with AI.

Swordsman 23-01-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Remless (Post 118794519)
Ah.. bad news. One of the daily u need to do the normal arena bot pvp and win one match. Lol.

sianzzzzzz:(:(:(

Swordsman 23-01-2019 07:01 PM

prefer this over fire emblem..

fire emblem the rng stats (iv) it already piss me off the 1st place.

then one character have so many versions.

skills most or less the same. no uniqueness.

Swordsman 23-01-2019 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Remless (Post 118794416)
Cos' I managed to get every SR in the game. But of course lah, I have preferences. I tend not to use footman, horsemen and rogues. My team has more mages, healers, pikemen and flyers. So these are not really insights, but contains my personal bias. Lol.

But really, this game is not those 'Wah, I have SSR, I can rule the world' type of game, nor is it those get SSR can auto all the way shitto game. This game is hard, challenging and frustrating at times even for story battles.

Like what Swordsman said earlier in this thread, the battles are not a walk in the park. But it is these challenges that I feel that I am playing a game. Not the game playing on its own.

as long don't kena R can le. cos only like 3 are useful.

i remember 1 game sr 95% are sheet. only matters are SSR>

Remless 23-01-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordsman (Post 118794584)
sianzzzzzz:(:(:(

Who knows, maybe u like the bot arena and someday may feel the max 5 matches per day too low. :s13:

I also don't like to be forced to do arena (think ffbe arena... pui)

The bot battles are fun. I feel song when I outwit and kill enemy Leon and other SSR with my SRs and Cherie. Lol. Especially when Leon rushes to his death with my pikemen covering.

Remless 23-01-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordsman (Post 118794648)
as long don't kena R can le. cos only like 3 are useful.

i remember 1 game sr 95% are sheet. only matters are SSR>

FFBE? Fits the bill as currently only 7* matters with 4* based and below are fodders. Lol.

Swordsman 23-01-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Remless (Post 118794722)
Who knows, maybe u like the bot arena and someday may feel the max 5 matches per day too low. :s13:

I also don't like to be forced to do arena (think ffbe arena... pui)

The bot battles are fun. I feel song when I outwit and kill enemy Leon and other SSR with my SRs and Cherie. Lol. Especially when Leon rushes to his death with my pikemen covering.

will AI susceptible to baiting like in fire emblem.. they can only reach against a unit that they are weak against and they still attack anyway ?

Swordsman 23-01-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Remless (Post 118794801)
FFBE? Fits the bill as currently only 7* matters with 4* based and below are fodders. Lol.

ffbe is even worse.

there are shitty 7* too. :s13:

I remember the game. its called grandchase.. u confirm won't like it.. its auto fest mostly.

Remless 23-01-2019 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordsman (Post 118794819)
will AI susceptible to baiting like in fire emblem.. they can only reach against a unit that they are weak against and they still attack anyway ?

Yep. bait and turtle is the main strategy I use against enemies stronger than me whether in pvp or pve.

But your bait better be tanky. And be ready for surprises.

Flyers, horsemen and archers have skills that increases their movement range. One look you maybe out of their attack range. But once they use the skills, your bait is now within their attack range and will mob your bait to death.

My solution: I place my bait within their attack range and place my tank near him/her but out of their attack range. In most stages, we are already outnumbered, so having the bait die will make things even more difficult.

Tank will absorb the attacks through covered. Then I use cherie to finish off the injured enemies (Cherie's OP talent. As long as she kills a unit, she can act again on the same turn. This ability has a 4 turn CD and the CD gets lesser as u upgrade her star)

Not always work.. but works in most cases.

Remless 23-01-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordsman (Post 118794849)
ffbe is even worse.

there are shitty 7* too. :s13:

I remember the game. its called grandchase.. u confirm won't like it.. its auto fest mostly.

I do play grandchase. Part of my game collection. Lol. Very low priority though. Total auto fest and SSR rate is miserable 1%. LoL. I just turn it on when I am too free. Now I started Langrisser global, I probably will ditch it.

Computeron 23-01-2019 07:22 PM

How to set my ssr to battle sia. Everytime like the default 3

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