[AMD]More choices now with 2400G/2200G APUs & on-going promos:

ZrE0_Cha0s

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Will R3 2200G be compatible with existing B350 MBs without the need to update BIOS?

Patiently waiting for this to be out to replace i5-7500 for overhaul build!

i dun think so, as most article i have read up is that u will need a bios update to get it work well.
 

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Ryzen has problem with Linux Processor C6 states.
Will freeze during low loads unless C6 is explicitly disabled
BIOS disable C6 will not work since OS will re enable it
 
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No confirmed dates on any boards yet but they did mention that
pinnacleridge will solve the current 4slot mem oc compatibility/limitation "issue" on summitridge.



These ravenridge APUs do well on 4 dimm memory OC as opposed to
ryzen's summitridge 2slot compatibility(or samsung B-die limitation).

Randomly, boot tested 4 sticks and ran all 64GB @ 2866 straight.
(16GB modules each)

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Swapped back my earlier 1300X/1600 again to try to see if it was the bios,
but they still wouldn't boot past 2400 as per before.


Btw, all brand boards will by now have the newer AGESA bios update for RR/PR.
Do give them a try even if you are on current Ryzens.
Seems better/more responsive.
(Better failed recovery timing, memory oc compatibility)
Yeah I've tried the newest AGESA bios for my Sister's board (actually it was because the bios got corrupted?! and had to be flashed so flashed the latest one anyway)

Better memory compatibility alright.

I'm looking for a B450 Mini-ITX board though to finally upgrade that rig on my right. I still find it hard to trust the B350 boards with the original memory incompatibility that caused my Sister's rig to constantly crash when the Cosair sticks she had were set to the XMP profile of 3200mhz
 

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Yeah I've tried the newest AGESA bios for my Sister's board (actually it was because the bios got corrupted?! and had to be flashed so flashed the latest one anyway)

Better memory compatibility alright.

I'm looking for a B450 Mini-ITX board though to finally upgrade that rig on my right. I still find it hard to trust the B350 boards with the original memory incompatibility that caused my Sister's rig to constantly crash when the Cosair sticks she had were set to the XMP profile of 3200mhz
Oh!
For non A-XMP/AM4 type memory modules, don't enable XMP in the bios.
Because the sub-timing/memory dump were for Intel XMP profiles.
They don't work well on AM4 boards.
Leave it @ auto and manual set the memory frequency from there.
If they are samsung B-die, high chance 3200 will work as well.
(And if stable, you can adjust to 1T CMD in bios after that to try)
 

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Some updates for those who tried Ravenridge with a dedicated Nvidia gfx.

The latest 390.77 seems to have issues installing.
If you are on a regular Ryzen, 1600/1700 etc, it installs fine.
But once you change to a Ravenridge, the drivers will not install.
I tried on a few cards.

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If you do face this, just use back an earlier/last working Nvidia drivers.
I used my last working 388.59 and they were working again.
Probably just wait for Nvidia to update a new set of drivers.
(or perhaps a windows patch?)

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Anyway, just for info. :)
 

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Some info on the Ravenridge APUs:
(You may already know)

(Specs & info from AMD)
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Pertaining to hybrid CFx:
No it's not available currently.
(ie. There is no feature on ravenridge APU + RX series cards.)

GPU PCI-E Lanes:
Ravenridge has only 8 GPU PCI-E lanes which also means
there is no crossfire mode available as of now.
(The idea for these APUs were meant for a particular segment by capitalizing on the integrated VEGA graphics.)

Will update more if I do think of important stuff. :)
 

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GPU PCI-E Lanes:
Ravenridge has only 8 GPU PCI-E lanes which also means
there is no crossfire mode available as of now.
(The idea for these APUs were meant for a particular segment by capitalizing on the integrated VEGA graphics.)

Honestly considering the target segment (budget users), which will probably upgrade to a GTX 1050 or 1060-class GPU at the most, the PCI x8 limitation isnt a big deal. Even Gamer Nexus after some test concluded that even a GTX 1080 is relatively unaffected by x16 vs x8

There always had to be a trade-off to pack that powerful Vega Graphics functionality into the APUs and this probably was it
 

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Some updates for those who tried Ravenridge with a dedicated Nvidia gfx.

The latest 390.77 seems to have issues installing.
If you are on a regular Ryzen, 1600/1700 etc, it installs fine.
But once you change to a Ravenridge, the drivers will not install.
I tried on a few cards.

IMG_2554-XL.jpg


IMG_2555-XL.jpg



If you do face this, just use back an earlier/last working Nvidia drivers.
I used my last working 388.59 and they were working again.
Probably just wait for Nvidia to update a new set of drivers.
(or perhaps a windows patch?)

IMG_2577-XL.jpg



Anyway, just for info. :)
Just an update:
Customer/user tested the new Nvidia drivers are working now.
ver.391.01

Just for info. :)
 

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tbh i wonder why ddr4 have such a short showtime while the other time ddr3 and ddr2 have such long showtimes :s11:

DDR5 specs just got finalized recently and we won't see DDR5 on the market until 2020. That's still a few years away.
 

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Some info on the Ravenridge APUs:
(You may already know)

(Specs & info from AMD)
2400G_Specs-XL.png


2200G_Specs-XL.png


Ravenridge_APU_Specs-XL.png



Pertaining to hybrid CFx:
No it's not available currently.
(ie. There is no feature on ravenridge APU + RX series cards.)

GPU PCI-E Lanes:
Ravenridge has only 8 GPU PCI-E lanes which also means
there is no crossfire mode available as of now.
(The idea for these APUs were meant for a particular segment by capitalizing on the integrated VEGA graphics.)

Will update more if I do think of important stuff. :)

No Hybrid CFx is a good step.
I used to own AMD laptop with Dual Graphics.
It always crash even during web surfing that I had no choice to
turn it off.
 

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No Hybrid CFx is a good step.
I used to own AMD laptop with Dual Graphics.
It always crash even during web surfing that I had no choice to
turn it off.
Yeah, kaveri era period.
Though I'm still using 5800K on my desktop currently now. @@
 

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Fiddling with this kit of FlareX 2933 CL16.
And testing with the APU graphics OCed.


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Nice kit, able to handle 3200Mhz CL14-16 range:

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The APU is benchable @ 1600MHz core:

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Played for a few hrs smoothy @ 1550MHz without any hiccups so far:
Games were set @ high settings and fiddled with higher settings later too.
(Tombraider and Wolfenstein II, 3Dmark 4K, Firestrike and skydiver)
Games were @ CL16, Benchmarks were @ CL14.

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APU graphics voltage were @ max 1.3v.
You need voltage for stability regardless.
Whether OCing the graphics or not is really down to the individual.

Memory wise, overall, they benefit a lot from frequency and latency but we can't always have the best of both world.
So if you can a much higher frequency over slightly better latency with occasional slight hiccups(memory errors), stick to the stable higher frequency.
I believe many old 3K MHz intel kits that could not run well with older bioses in the past will handle 2800-3066 MHz quite well now with the new Agesa updates.
 

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Remember to participate/redeem if you have made purchases relevant
to the respective promos. :)


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Don’t see any itx board on pricelist .... this looks gd for a node202 build
 
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