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Old 07-10-2013, 08:17 AM   #1651
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U can press the power button to on it.


How do I power on my DS213j when it is completely powered off?

I could power it on from my Android phone or Synology Assistant, when the LAN light is blinking (i.e. Wake-on-LAN). But I cannot do it if no light is blinking. Anyone?
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How do I power on my DS213j when it is completely powered off?

I could power it on from my Android phone or Synology Assistant, when the LAN light is blinking (i.e. Wake-on-LAN). But I cannot do it if no light is blinking. Anyone?
U can press the power button to on it.


Forgot to mention, I want to power it on without pressing the power on button Cos everytime I turn on my router and NAS, I still have to stretch my hand to press the power button on NAS (even though it's supposed to have WOL).
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I still have to stretch my hand to press the power button.
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experts, am I right to say that Cloud Station syncs both ways ?

Lets say I have a fileshared.doc in cloudstation in PC-1 and PC-2 is able to retrieve it. I edit it and place it back into cloudstation folder, with the same name and PC-1 will receive / sync the updated file ?
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Hi. I own a 213-J and there are problems streaming from video station. I had recently upgraded video station software. I can still view all my media on the NAS in catalogue mode, just that when i want to play the video it will pop out "connection expired" or "playback error". i have no problems playing these videos prior to the update. Anyone experience the same issue?
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How do I power on my DS213j when it is completely powered off?

I could power it on from my Android phone or Synology Assistant, when the LAN light is blinking (i.e. Wake-on-LAN). But I cannot do it if no light is blinking. Anyone?
Did you try "DS finder" for Android?
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Old 14-10-2013, 11:36 AM   #1657
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Anyone knows how to upload a file FROM the synology NAS to some web host? e.g. google drive, mega etc.

Basically, I have the file in my NAS and I want to initiate the upload via my PC/laptop and then shut off the PC/laptop while the upload is ongoing. Something like Download Station but in reverse.
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Forgot to mention, I want to power it on without pressing the power on button Cos everytime I turn on my router and NAS, I still have to stretch my hand to press the power button on NAS (even though it's supposed to have WOL).
Can you power on a car without battery and fuel ? If you can, then we can always use the same technology to power your NAS. Please be sensible.

Obviously power has to be supplied to the unit to have it power on regardless which soft power-on method you have chosen. WOL is nothing more than your always ON network card receiving the "magic" packet and initiate the power-on on the motherboard it is connected to. There is no magic here. The only thing so called not power on is more like they are all hibernating in a standby state.

You are free to keep on NAS 24by7 on like the way I do. It's actually more efficient and less prone to failure if you keep everything stable. It's not like the NAS will require you S$100/month to run.
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Can you power on a car without battery and fuel ? If you can, then we can always use the same technology to power your NAS. Please be sensible.

Obviously power has to be supplied to the unit to have it power on regardless which soft power-on method you have chosen. WOL is nothing more than your always ON network card receiving the "magic" packet and initiate the power-on on the motherboard it is connected to. There is no magic here. The only thing so called not power on is more like they are all hibernating in a standby state.

You are free to keep on NAS 24by7 on like the way I do. It's actually more efficient and less prone to failure if you keep everything stable. It's not like the NAS will require you S$100/month to run.
I seconded this opinion. The purpose of having a NAS is to provide storage readily. If you power up and down often, might as well stick with a DAS storage instead of NAS. IMO frequent power up and down may wear out the HDD faster.
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Thinking of upgrading my dns320 to a ds413j. Will there be an improvement in read write speed? How about setting up for remote access. Tried reading the thread but too chim for me liao. Now I using ddns to access files through ftp(if it makes sense), paiseh I not very fluent networking stuffs
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Can you power on a car without battery and fuel ? If you can, then we can always use the same technology to power your NAS. Please be sensible.

Obviously power has to be supplied to the unit to have it power on regardless which soft power-on method you have chosen. WOL is nothing more than your always ON network card receiving the "magic" packet and initiate the power-on on the motherboard it is connected to. There is no magic here. The only thing so called not power on is more like they are all hibernating in a standby state.

You are free to keep on NAS 24by7 on like the way I do. It's actually more efficient and less prone to failure if you keep everything stable. It's not like the NAS will require you S$100/month to run.
What I meant:
1. Both router and DS213j are of course connected to power socket.
2. Switch on the power
3. Router will automatically power up.
4. DS213j can only be powered up by pressing the physical button.
5. Android "DS finder" also cannot find DS213j.
6. So I'm asking if DS213j can be powered on without touching any physical hardware.

I have set up Wake-on-LAN:
When powered on, after not using DS213j for some time, it will go into hibernating mode, the LAN light will be blinking. DS finder is able to find, and DS213j can be 'activated'.

WOL does not work if:
If initially there's no power supplied, then I switch on the power to both router and DS213j, the router can start running, but the DS213j needs me to give it physical contact (press the power button), even though WOL is activated. (e.g. DS finder cannot find)
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What I meant:
1. Both router and DS213j are of course connected to power socket.
2. Switch on the power
3. Router will automatically power up.
4. DS213j can only be powered up by pressing the physical button.
5. Android "DS finder" also cannot find DS213j.
6. So I'm asking if DS213j can be powered on without touching any physical hardware.

I have set up Wake-on-LAN:
When powered on, after not using DS213j for some time, it will go into hibernating mode, the LAN light will be blinking. DS finder is able to find, and DS213j can be 'activated'.

WOL does not work if:
If initially there's no power supplied, then I switch on the power to both router and DS213j, the router can start running, but the DS213j needs me to give it physical contact (press the power button), even though WOL is activated. (e.g. DS finder cannot find)
I know what you mean. Let me try explain as best as I can.

DS Finder is supposed to be able to issue a WOL command i.e Magic Packet to your NAS so that it will boot up (not wake up from hibernation).

What you need to do is to configure your router so that the magic packet gets forwarded through your router to your NAS. I could not get this to work.

What I did is to login to my Asus router via Asus AI Cloud App and invoke the WOL command found within AI Cloud App. The NAS could boot up in this manner.
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What I meant:
1. Both router and DS213j are of course connected to power socket.
2. Switch on the power
3. Router will automatically power up.
4. DS213j can only be powered up by pressing the physical button.
5. Android "DS finder" also cannot find DS213j.
6. So I'm asking if DS213j can be powered on without touching any physical hardware.

I have set up Wake-on-LAN:
When powered on, after not using DS213j for some time, it will go into hibernating mode, the LAN light will be blinking. DS finder is able to find, and DS213j can be 'activated'.

WOL does not work if:
If initially there's no power supplied, then I switch on the power to both router and DS213j, the router can start running, but the DS213j needs me to give it physical contact (press the power button), even though WOL is activated. (e.g. DS finder cannot find)
Okay, get what you are asking now. In this case, my short answer to you is NO. The longer answer is HARD. Synology NAS is exactly a system with a motherboard, not much difference from your normal desktop system, except without a graphical output nor hardware console. I recall it has a terminal port though for technical servicing.

What happens is today mainboards don't start just with power from PSU. At least not all components. It still require a soft power on switch to activate, which is the power button you are pressing.

I would suspect you will need to mod the jumper or pins if you want it to power on by default. This would be rather electrically technical.

2 approaches to solve this problem is you either leave the NAS on 24by7, if not, you will need to resort to WOL from a computer or any devices that can broadcast WOL packets into the network.

Below is a PHP script that I have been using to broadcast WOL packets into another system from my NAS. Might not be very useful to you, but you see if it helps at all
<?php flush(); function wol($addr, $mac,$socket_number) { $addr_byte = explode(':', $mac); $hw_addr = ''; for ($a=0; $a < 6; $a++) $hw_addr .= chr(hexdec($addr_byte[$a])); $msg = chr(255).chr(255).chr(255).chr(255).chr(255).chr(255); for ($a = 1; $a <= 16; $a++) $msg .= $hw_addr; $s = socket_create(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, SOL_UDP); if ($s == false) { echo "Error creating socket!\n"; echo "Error code is '".socket_last_error($s)."' - " . socket_strerror(socket_last_error($s)); } else { $opt_ret = socket_set_option($s, 1, 6, TRUE); if($opt_ret < 0) echo "setsockopt() failed, error: " . strerror($opt_ret) . "\n"; $e = socket_sendto($s, $msg, strlen($msg), 0, $addr, $socket_number); socket_close($s); echo "Magic Packet sent to MONSTER"; } } $socket_number = "32446"; // any number between 1-40000 $mac_addy = "aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff"; // mac address of your NAS or the system's nic to be waked $ip_addy = "www.xxx.yyy.zzz"; // broadcast address of your network wol($ip_addy, $mac_addy,$socket_number); ?>
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Okay... thanks both for the technical replies. Just tried running the php script on WAMP but doesn't work.

socket_set_option(): unable to set socket option [0]: An invalid argument was supplied.

Googled but cannot find anything useful.
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Okay... thanks both for the technical replies. Just tried running the php script on WAMP but doesn't work.

socket_set_option(): unable to set socket option [0]: An invalid argument was supplied.

Googled but cannot find anything useful.
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