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Old 28-09-2019, 09:12 PM   #8671
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any reviews on which one is better in reliability ? the iron wolf or the wd red ?
Stay away from WD Red for Synology users.
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Old 28-09-2019, 09:22 PM   #8672
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any reviews on which one is better in reliability ? the iron wolf or the wd red ?
I was trying to find info on this as well to add a 10TB drive to my NAS, but can't find any conclusive answers.

Went with WD Red in the end since the general opinion online seems to favor WD over seagate.

Also, the funny thing is the Red is 5400rpm, but after testing, has the same read/writes as my 7200rpm HGST Deskstar drive.

User benchmark seems to show that Reds are faster than ironwolves as well: https://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compar...61315vsm324807
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Old 28-09-2019, 10:05 PM   #8673
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I run ironwolf pro's 24x7 running for about 18 months in a non AC room only 1 of the 12 drives recently had some bad sectors and it was minor incremental. Personally I think its all abit of heng xuay.

I only had a WD red once in the same array and it developed some IO issues and had to be yanked out.


any reviews on which one is better in reliability ? the iron wolf or the wd red ?
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Old 29-09-2019, 10:57 PM   #8674
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I was trying to find info on this as well to add a 10TB drive to my NAS, but can't find any conclusive answers.

Went with WD Red in the end since the general opinion online seems to favor WD over seagate.

Also, the funny thing is the Red is 5400rpm, but after testing, has the same read/writes as my 7200rpm HGST Deskstar drive.

User benchmark seems to show that Reds are faster than ironwolves as well: https://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compar...61315vsm324807
lol... shouldn't you publish in that (general opinion online) instead of here then?

over here, we don't promote reds. WD is fine, however not for red + synology combo.

Anyway, good luck to your data. I will advise to backup with another larger hdd or another NAS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/co...dying_in_lots/

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/1...-post5252.html

https://community.wd.com/t/wd-red-on...ogy-nas/161727

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Old 29-09-2019, 10:58 PM   #8675
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any reviews on which one is better in reliability ? the iron wolf or the wd red ?
if you insist on RED, disable hibernate.
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Old 29-09-2019, 10:58 PM   #8676
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Stay away from WD Red for Synology users.
honestly, i think no point advisng people here. They insist to read what they think is 'right' and ignore whatever you have said.

+ their google / online skills CMI.

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Old 03-10-2019, 04:41 PM   #8677
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Hi shifu,

Anyone is using ds1019+ here? Is it better than ds918+?

I am thinking to buy a nas to backup family photo and 4k movie streaming.

Where can i buy ds1019+ and what hard disk brand should i buy 5 x 10tb?
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:54 PM   #8678
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Hi shifu,

Anyone is using ds1019+ here? Is it better than ds918+?

I am thinking to buy a nas to backup family photo and 4k movie streaming.

Where can i buy ds1019+ and what hard disk brand should i buy 5 x 10tb?
Both are in same category, 5 VS 4 bay.

Lazada to search for promotion while HDD can get Seagate Ironwolf 10TB at $409 from Tradepac.
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Old 03-10-2019, 11:43 PM   #8679
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Hi

May I know if it is possible to retrieve the files from a disk that was part of a SHR?
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:01 AM   #8680
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Hi shifu,

Anyone is using ds1019+ here? Is it better than ds918+?

I am thinking to buy a nas to backup family photo and 4k movie streaming.

Where can i buy ds1019+ and what hard disk brand should i buy 5 x 10tb?

WD UltraStar DC HC510 10TB Enterprise class 5yr wty around $415 each
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Old 04-10-2019, 09:18 AM   #8681
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WD UltraStar DC HC510 10TB Enterprise class 5yr wty around $415 each
Both are in same category, 5 VS 4 bay.

Lazada to search for promotion while HDD can get Seagate Ironwolf 10TB at $409 from Tradepac.
Thank both shifu..
So i should go for WD and Seagate.
Avoid WD red.

Let me calculate my budget again
Still finding good deal for DS1019+
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Old 04-10-2019, 01:51 PM   #8682
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Hi

May I know if it is possible to retrieve the files from a disk that was part of a SHR?
I could only find this. Its from official synology help so I suppose it should work.

https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowl...ion_using_a_PC
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:38 PM   #8683
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I could only find this. Its from official synology help so I suppose it should work.

https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowl...ion_using_a_PC
Thanks for helping to link the article. I saw this earlier, but it didn't really answer my doubt. My scenario is that I replaced a slightly faulty disk in my Nas and I was wondering if my data is irretrievable and it's safe to dispose of this disk without formatting. My pc is a little fragile and I didn't want to take the risk of opening it to plug in the disk to format.

The disk is slightly faulty in that the Nas will show that disk is not initialized when the Nas is awoken from hibernation. If I repair the storage pool, it will be ok. If I do a smart test on the disk, it's ok. If I don't let my Nas hibernate, it's also ok. So it seems like only the waking from hibernation is the problem for the disk.
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:59 PM   #8684
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Thanks for helping to link the article. I saw this earlier, but it didn't really answer my doubt. My scenario is that I replaced a slightly faulty disk in my Nas and I was wondering if my data is irretrievable and it's safe to dispose of this disk without formatting. My pc is a little fragile and I didn't want to take the risk of opening it to plug in the disk to format.

The disk is slightly faulty in that the Nas will show that disk is not initialized when the Nas is awoken from hibernation. If I repair the storage pool, it will be ok. If I do a smart test on the disk, it's ok. If I don't let my Nas hibernate, it's also ok. So it seems like only the waking from hibernation is the problem for the disk.
So you want to dispose off that faulty disk but worried that the data is still intact. I'd just take the hdd apart, remove the platters and destroy them.
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:40 PM   #8685
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So you want to dispose off that faulty disk but worried that the data is still intact. I'd just take the hdd apart, remove the platters and destroy them.
I was thinking of that too, but realized the screws are star-shaped, not the usual + or -....
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