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Old 13-12-2019, 11:22 AM   #8836
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Thanks! Will check it out..

so far, i got 1 tio bad sector and need rma

So far I got good experience with WD NAS HDD, my 4TB HDD red already more than 5 yrs still in operation. You may write to WD Singapore to transfer the warranty region and it is subject to approval. Anyway the amazon usa review is good for this type of WD ext HDD which is a red disk and label as white. A lot of buyers are using it for their NAS and also youtube got a lot video that teach you how to open the case. For a price of 8tb red, you can almost buy 2 unit of this 8tb ext hdd, the hassle to remove it from the case is worth the price.
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Old 13-12-2019, 06:35 PM   #8837
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warranty void a not?? but buy oversea mean no sg warranty
Want cheap, want warranty. If u want warranty pay local price la
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Old 14-12-2019, 01:39 AM   #8838
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no point buying ext hdd and shuck them for NAS, pple use them as archival drives which means fewer access and reads after filling them up for storage. Those drives are 5400rpm and won't be as durable for 24/7 operations.
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Old 14-12-2019, 03:04 AM   #8839
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no point buying ext hdd and shuck them for NAS, pple use them as archival drives which means fewer access and reads after filling them up for storage. Those drives are 5400rpm and won't be as durable for 24/7 operations.
i am not into nas but minor flamebait spotted.

it is not about buying any ext hdd rather it is about getting a wd red from inside one.

how does 5400rpm hdd be less durable? common sense means they use less power therefore less heat and quieter and their lifespan can turn out to be longer than drives that spin at higher rpm not to mention it is less expensive too.
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Old 14-12-2019, 10:52 AM   #8840
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Hi all, I am having a DS218 with 2x 8TB HDD.

How can I tell if I am using both disk? e.g. 1x8TB for data and 1x8TB for backup??

I'm just worried that I'm only using 1 disk. Then no redundancy liao...

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Old 14-12-2019, 11:39 AM   #8841
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anyone here using 8 TB seagate barracuda as a nas drive? The pricing for this hdd seems cheapter than most 8TBs.
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Old 14-12-2019, 11:54 AM   #8842
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Hi all, I am having a DS218 with 2x 8TB HDD.

How can I tell if I am using both disk? e.g. 1x8TB for data and 1x8TB for backup??

I'm just worried that I'm only using 1 disk. Then no redundancy liao...

Both hard disks are being used. It is configured as SHR with 1 drive fault tolerance which is like raid 1.
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Old 14-12-2019, 02:53 PM   #8843
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Hi all, for those using Synology and macbook, can I know if there are issues with your macbook photos located in the nas?
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Old 14-12-2019, 03:03 PM   #8844
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i am not into nas but minor flamebait spotted.

it is not about buying any ext hdd rather it is about getting a wd red from inside one.

how does 5400rpm hdd be less durable? common sense means they use less power therefore less heat and quieter and their lifespan can turn out to be longer than drives that spin at higher rpm not to mention it is less expensive too.
That is not how we measure reliability of drives. Enterprise drives operate at 10-15Krpms, dissipating more heat, generally still end up more reliable. While we can argue that those price range are different, they are still after all hardwares. Hence we can only truly ascertain the durability of hard drives through statistics, not simply just decide base on heat generated and or other factors on their own. The quality and design of the harddisk matters too.

Besides the way how harddisk are used also matters. In my case, my NAS hardly shutdown, since I am also connected to surveillance cameras writing all the time to the harddisk, my harddisks generally is running without hibernation 24x7. Despite that they still works flawlessly typically more than 4years and some stretching into 6years. In fact, I had to upgrade them because I ran out of spaces, not because they are damaged.

You can refer to the Backblazer 2019 report. While the top most failure is a 7200rpm harddisk, the one trailing behind is immediately a 5400rpm harddisk. Unless the rest in the stats are all only 5400rpm harddisks, then the statement of placing 5400rpm harddisks are more durable might be statistically true.

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Old 14-12-2019, 03:44 PM   #8845
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i understand that ds918 can run vm on them , is it able to support running 2 vm - window 10 and the other server os?
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Old 14-12-2019, 07:27 PM   #8846
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Hi all, I am having a DS218 with 2x 8TB HDD.

How can I tell if I am using both disk? e.g. 1x8TB for data and 1x8TB for backup??

I'm just worried that I'm only using 1 disk. Then no redundancy liao...

u r using both. is on redundancy mode.
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Old 14-12-2019, 07:41 PM   #8847
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That is not how we measure reliability of drives. Enterprise drives operate at 10-15Krpms, dissipating more heat, generally still end up more reliable. While we can argue that those price range are different, they are still after all hardwares. Hence we can only truly ascertain the durability of hard drives through statistics, not simply just decide base on heat generated and or other factors on their own. The quality and design of the harddisk matters too.

Besides the way how harddisk are used also matters. In my case, my NAS hardly shutdown, since I am also connected to surveillance cameras writing all the time to the harddisk, my harddisks generally is running without hibernation 24x7. Despite that they still works flawlessly typically more than 4years and some stretching into 6years. In fact, I had to upgrade them because I ran out of spaces, not because they are damaged.

You can refer to the Backblazer 2019 report. While the top most failure is a 7200rpm harddisk, the one trailing behind is immediately a 5400rpm harddisk. Unless the rest in the stats are all only 5400rpm harddisks, then the statement of placing 5400rpm harddisks are more durable might be statistically true.
you have taken my post out of context. i am refuting an earlier post containing the line 'Those drives are 5400rpm and won't be as durable for 24/7 operations.' not as a statement that 5400rpm hdd are more durable but rather how can it be less durable than other rpm hdd in the same grade & tier.

2019 & backblaze stats still a thing? stats are easily manipulated & misinterpreted. take them with a grain of salt.

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6...red/index.html
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Old 14-12-2019, 11:07 PM   #8848
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you have taken my post out of context. i am refuting an earlier post containing the line 'Those drives are 5400rpm and won't be as durable for 24/7 operations.' not as a statement that 5400rpm hdd are more durable but rather how can it be less durable than other rpm hdd in the same grade & tier.

2019 & backblaze stats still a thing? stats are easily manipulated & misinterpreted. take them with a grain of salt.

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6...red/index.html
honestly, i don't believe in backblze
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Old 14-12-2019, 11:10 PM   #8849
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i understand that ds918 can run vm on them , is it able to support running 2 vm - window 10 and the other server os?
yes and no

1. depends on amount of ram you have
2. ur CPU will maxed out if u are trying to do something intensive.
3. i won't really suggest win os as it is resource intensive on the NAS.
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Old 14-12-2019, 11:10 PM   #8850
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Thank you both!!

Both hard disks are being used. It is configured as SHR with 1 drive fault tolerance which is like raid 1.
u r using both. is on redundancy mode.
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